#1 Posted by Death Certificate (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

'Help me,' homeless man begs as cops fatally beat him in videotaped incident

(CNN) -- A graphic video played at a hearing Monday to determine whether two California police officers should stand trial in the beating death of a homeless man showed them kicking and punching the mentally ill man as he lay on the ground -- screaming in pain and begging for help.

The victim, Kelly Thomas, died five days after the beating on July 5.

Manuel Ramos, a 10-year veteran of the Fullerton, California, police department, is charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter, while Cpl. Jay Patrick Cicinelli faces charges of involuntary manslaughter and felony use of excessive force in the same case.

Both have pleaded not guilty.

The black-and-white video was played during a preliminary hearing for the two officers.

It begins with Thomas -- a 37-year-old homeless man with schizophrenia -- sitting and being told by Ramos to put his feet out and hands on his knees.

The officers were responding to a call about a homeless man looking into car windows and pulling on handles of parked cars.

In the video, Thomas is slow to cooperate.

Ramos then tells him: "You see my fists? They're getting ready to f--- you up."

Thomas, who is unarmed and shirtless, stands and another officer walks over. They hit him with their batons and hold him on the ground as he begs for help.

"Ok, I'm sorry, dude. I'm sorry!" he screams. At one point, Thomas says he can't breathe. The officers tell him to lie on his stomach, put his hands behind his back and relax.

"Ok, here, here, dude, please!" he says.

Other officers arrive.

At times, trees block the view of the camera and it's not always clear who is doing what as officers pile on top of Thomas.

One uses a Taser stun gun.

Thomas cries out for help and. toward the end of the beating, for his father: "Dad! Help me. Help me. Help me, dad."

His voice gets softer and trails off.

By the end of the video, he is lying in a pool of blood as the officers wonder out loud what to do next.

One can be heard saying: "We ran out of options so I got to the end of my Taser and I ... smashed his face to hell."

Thomas suffered brain injuries, facial fractures, rib fractures, and extensive bruising and abrasions, according to prosecutors.

The Orange County coroner listed his manner of death as a homicide and said he died after having his chest compressed, leaving him unable to breathe.

The FBI is investigating possible civil rights violations in his case.

Six Fullerton officers, including Ramos and Cicinelli, were put on paid leave after his death. The case drew widespread attention to the police department of Fullerton, located about 25 miles southeast of downtown Los Angeles.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/08/us/california-police-beating/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Disgusting. Completely disgusting.

#2 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio

Why the hell do you get to go on paid leave after murdering someone? That seems like a reward...

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#3 Edited by utotheg38 (18883 posts) - - Show Bio

F#cked up, yo.

#4 Posted by Strider92 (16437 posts) - - Show Bio

@aztek_the_lost said:

Why the hell do you get to go on paid leave after murdering someone? That seems like a reward...

Thats basically what I was thinking....

#5 Edited by Inverno (13219 posts) - - Show Bio

1984, much? Well they already censored our own Internet so it won't be long after they burn you hourse, kill your pets, rape your wives and daughters and steal all your booze from the fridge.

#6 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

Where was the excessive force?

#7 Posted by Death Certificate (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enemybird:anything past 19:00 gets horrible

#8 Edited by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a picture of him, after the beating... Oh my God.

#9 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio

And you wonder why people are developing a seething resentment for police officers in general. Six grown men can't take down a malnourished, mentally-handicapped man without eviscerating his face? Pathetic.

#10 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8096 posts) - - Show Bio

@aztek_the_lost said:

Why the hell do you get to go on paid leave after murdering someone? That seems like a reward...

@Strider92 said:

@aztek_the_lost said:

Why the hell do you get to go on paid leave after murdering someone? That seems like a reward...

Thats basically what I was thinking....

#11 Posted by Death Certificate (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123: Worst part is that these cops won't get the punishment they deserve, due to being being cops.

#12 Posted by utotheg38 (18883 posts) - - Show Bio

"He's on something"

Ok, So you bash his head In;

#13 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123: Please put a spoiler block and warn people of the graphic content of that image ...

#14 Posted by utotheg38 (18883 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enemybird said:

@minigunman123: Please put a spoiler block and warn people of the graphic content of that image ...

What are you, Gunnin to be a mod?

#15 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@utotheg38 said:

@Enemybird said:

@minigunman123: Please put a spoiler block and warn people of the graphic content of that image ...

What are you, Gunnin to be a mod?

iie

#16 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn.

#17 Posted by utotheg38 (18883 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enemybird said:

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@Enemybird said:

@minigunman123: Please put a spoiler block and warn people of the graphic content of that image ...

What are you, Gunnin to be a mod?

iie

qvc?

#18 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@utotheg38 said:

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@Enemybird said:

@minigunman123: Please put a spoiler block and warn people of the graphic content of that image ...

What are you, Gunnin to be a mod?

iie

qvc?

iie means "no" in Japanese.

#19 Posted by utotheg38 (18883 posts) - - Show Bio

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@Enemybird said:

@minigunman123: Please put a spoiler block and warn people of the graphic content of that image ...

What are you, Gunnin to be a mod?

iie

qvc?

iie means "no" in Japanese.

QVC is a West Goshen Township, Pennsylvania, USA, multinational corporation, specializing in televised home shopping.

#20 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

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#27 Posted by Cozy_Da_Djed_Eye (10098 posts) - - Show Bio

They do this to homeless dues all the time.

#28 Posted by utotheg38 (18883 posts) - - Show Bio

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#29 Posted by Shadow_Thief (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

This is the response to an erratic homeless man? What would they do if faced with an actual, dangerous criminal? Call in a tactical nuclear strike?

#30 Posted by jinxuandi (595 posts) - - Show Bio

This is sick, just sick. I wish these guys would have to serve some time in prison where they would get what they deserve.

#31 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

That's just sad.

#32 Posted by God_Spawn (37873 posts) - - Show Bio

Those cops can get bent.

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#33 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

The cops should be killed...this is sad...