heyman and brock lesner or paul bearer and the Undertaker

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Which team had the better gimmick?

Who did better promos?

Who had more iconic matches?

In which of the two pairs was there an equal contribution from both manager and athlete for the pairs success?

Would be nice to know your reasons too :)

Bonus question

In which areas is cena better than brock ? I.e..in ring work ,Promos, mic skills and gimmicks ( take into account john previous ones like basic thugonomics)

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Bearer and Taker

Heyman and Lesnar

Bearer and Taker

Taker and Bearer ( the streak duh) but Lesnar and Heyman are up there.

Obviously Promo and Mic skills as well as gimmicks. Ring work I'd give to lesnar.

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Bearer and Taker

Heyman and Lesnar

Bearer and Taker

Taker and Bearer ( the streak duh) but Lesnar and Heyman are up there.

Obviously Promo and Mic skills as well as gimmicks. Ring work I'd give to lesnar.

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Taker and Bear

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Who is Heyman? Who is Paul Bearer??

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@dum529001: paul bearer was undertakers manager and heyman is lesners manager

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@comicace3: If lesner had stayed in the wwe longer would he have had more success or similar success that he had with heyman

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Taker

Heyman easily

Taker

Heyman and Brock IMO

John is better at mic skills and gimmicks. Lesnars beast gimmick is the best right now but other than that John is a bit better. Who is a better in-ring performer is a tough one. Both put on amazing matches. People say cena has five moves but his matches with Cesaro and Owens disprove that. But then again Brocks dominance is equally as entertaining, if not moreso. Brock is just so believable as a beast and it works really well in the ring.

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Hey everyone I would to know your reasons for choosing one or the other as well please :)

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@sad_max said:

@comicace3: If lesner had stayed in the wwe longer would he have had more success or similar success that he had with heyman

I could see that happening.

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Bearer and Taker had the better gimmick, there's not much to Brock other than the fact that he's a legit monster, which is fine, but hardly a great gimmick.

Heyman's promos are amazing, he's one of the best of all-time at them.

Taker definitely has more iconic matches. The Streak, Hell in a Cell with Michaels and later Mankind, as well as classics with Austin, Hart, Angle, etc. You could say Brock is better in the ring, but Taker was on top for 2 decades while Lesnar just 2002-2004 and his part-time stuff from 2012-, so his match catalogue is nowhere near Undertaker level.

Cena is clearly ahead of Brock in terms of mic skills and rising above unlikely odds. Also, Lesnar doesn't really have any great feuds that have defined his era the way Cena has. His best feud was probably against Angle, but Cena's feuds with the likes of Edge and Punk are very memorable and not just for their matches. No doubt Brock is the better wrestler though.