@spiderbat87 said:
God didn't make me this way, I chose to be.
How do you define choice? Or God? Or even existence? Where does perception end and reality begin? Is the world the way it is because of your choices? Or is it in fact running on my choices? Both? What goes into the concept of self? Are we simply an amalgamation of experiences? Are we a product of our times? Our society? Our upbringing?
@Ending said:
Why does the world put on a facade about hating Evil and unjustice when we employ it every day. This world is hypocrisy that will only END when a higher force steps in to wipe away the one species that got a big ego. Human Beings... I'm getting off topic so let me go back to the lore of Evil. It is perceived to be a horrid thing ex Black Mass yet without it at this point we would kill each other. Lying is a Sin as is the majority of the things we partake of. Does that stop us NO it makes us get more pleasure out of it. The threat of being caught increases our drive to Sin. Know I do not judge but the Almighty knows our thoughts and we may say God made me this way or he knew I was gonna do it. But answer this "If God made you tht way or knew you were gonna fall short WHY would he have rules against WHAT U ARE OR WHAT U DID?!?! Reply for a discussion
I'd say this rant can be fixed a couple of ways. First off, crack open your nearest religious text and consider your interpretation there of. Some things that are considered a "sin" in society are not stated as such in said religious texts and even if they are, they tend to be within a context rather than a sweeping prohibition (no one says ending hunger is bad, but meanwhile gluttony is and science can now prove this). And if it does have a sweeping prohibition said things tend to be either personally harmful; be it emotionally, physically, or sociologically (sometimes this one still applies to our society, other times it doesn't ). It's like telling a child not to touch a stove. They might touch it anyway, but that doesn't mean you allow them to keep their hand there or pretend that their are no consequences to an actions taken or even inaction. Actions have consequences, this is a theme in nearly all religions the world over, not to mention the human condition as a whole.
Secondly, the concept of a higher power, is this not in and of itself a display of ego? You mention hypocrisy and that only some higher power can wipe away humanity whom you believe has a big ego. Well I'd argue that humanity is the only species to which the concept of ego itself has any merit at all. Heck it is only human beings that have the concept of beings higher than themselves or even the concept of ranking living beings in the first place if you wish to get technical. So you got me there hypocrisy and ego because we're the only living things that we know of that even have such concepts or put any thought or energy behind them in the first place as anything more than abstract concepts put forth by the human thought process in an effort to understand, control, quantify (whatever your reasons for thinking really), the world in which we live.
Third if you want to use the biblical concept of God you'd be well served in looking into the concept. You can't take the parts you like and then be angry at biblical God for doing what biblical God has done before and again and again. The concept of choice has always been one associated with biblical God and even those that received the "wrath of God" as it were are given choices, chances, and options. Again here is the concept of actions/inactions and consequences. Also saying that God knew you were gonna fall short, that sounds a lot like self justification. Should I be angry at my math teach whom gives me a retest because I was sick, because I decided not to study?
I'm not trying to bash religion here or defend it, however to me it seems that people try to use religion (for or against it) as a get out of personal responsibility card. The extreme end of the religious try to scapegoat religion as the reason they do the things they do, even when said actions directly clashes with massive amounts of religious dogma. And those that hate or seek to discredit religion always point at the extremes and say "Hey look this is what religion does to people...it makes them crazy." In my mind both are cheap and annoying tactics that will always detract from conversations of the more rational among us.
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