- After watching him bend over out childhoods with Star Wars Episiode 1-3, and Indiana Jones 4, does anyone really want to see him do anything else?
George Lucas Is Going Back to Making Smaller Films - Anyone Care?
He is an 'Ideas man' with to many 'yes men' and brown nosers around him to achieve anything worth while, I don't really think he was ever in tune with his fan base which is entirely his choice but i honestly wont miss what ever little contribution he brings to cinema anymore.
Nice to know people are still jumping on that pathetic and pitiable "Lucas raped my childhood!" bandwagon.After watching him bend over out childhoods with Star Wars Episiode 1-3, and Indiana Jones 4
@Silver2467 said:
@WarMachineMarkV said:Nice to know people are still jumping on that pathetic and pitiable "Lucas raped my childhood!" bandwagon.After watching him bend over out childhoods with Star Wars Episiode 1-3, and Indiana Jones 4
It's not quite so far-fetched. "Rape" childhood memories? No, but make them into garbage? Yeah. Ewoks? Star Wars: The Clone Wars? Indiana Jones 4? Much like George Romero for his genre, he's lost his spark.
It is far fetched. I can understand people hating the prequels. I cannot understand people taking that to such a ridiculous extreme to say that Lucas ruined their childhood. Seriously, I pity people who had that much invested in Star Wars.@Silver2467 said:
@WarMachineMarkV said:
Nice to know people are still jumping on that pathetic and pitiable "Lucas raped my childhood!" bandwagon.After watching him bend over out childhoods with Star Wars Episiode 1-3, and Indiana Jones 4
It's not quite so far-fetched. "Rape" childhood memories? No, but make them into garbage? Yeah. Ewoks? Star Wars: Clone Wars? Indiana Jones 4? Much like George Romero for his genre, he's lost his spark.
And Lucas has had very little to do with the current Clone Wars show. He was the one who conceived of the idea for the show to be created. His creative input has been limited, as far as I know, and even then, the show is directed at younger viewers. Besides that, the show really should only bother people like me who can recognize the continuity flaws the show creates. You can blame it on Dave Filoni, Tim Burns, Kevin Campbell, etc. Ewoks and Indiana Jones, I agree with. Those were rather bad and were low points for Lucas. The former, however, was intended for a very young audience; so I can hardly blame him that it has no appeal to me. The latter, that was just a poor idea.
Chuck Klosterman wrote this awesome little bit about Star Wars in Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs describing how Star Wars was always intended for kids.
To the thread, I have no particular interest in many of Lucas' other projects. His real strengths were emphasized in Star Wars, those strengths being his bizarre ideas and settings being formed into a decent story.
@texasdeathmatch said:
Chuck Klosterman wrote this awesome little bit about Star Wars in Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs describing how Star Wars was always intended for kids.I think it was. The inception of the Ewoks was designed to appeal to a young audience, and Lucas was hesitant about revealing that Vader was Luke's father because he was worried that kids would never be able to accept that.
@Silver2467 said:
@progenitor said:It is far fetched. I can understand people hating the prequels. I cannot understand people taking that to such a ridiculous extreme to say that Lucas ruined their childhood. Seriously, I pity people who had that much invested in Star Wars.@Silver2467 said:
@WarMachineMarkV said:Nice to know people are still jumping on that pathetic and pitiable "Lucas raped my childhood!" bandwagon.After watching him bend over out childhoods with Star Wars Episiode 1-3, and Indiana Jones 4
It's not quite so far-fetched. "Rape" childhood memories? No, but make them into garbage? Yeah. Ewoks? Star Wars: Clone Wars? Indiana Jones 4? Much like George Romero for his genre, he's lost his spark.
They don't mean they're literally traumatized. It's an exaggeration.
You'd be surprised. I have talked to people who actually mean that when they say it.They don't mean they're literally traumatized. It's an exaggeration.
Why not?The premise of WWII has been used constantly in entertainment to the point where it's monotonous (in both movies and video games). It's very cliche.
Apparently, my homegirl (or more importantly, a girl who's bothered by the fact that I'm no longer attracted to her) thinks I'm an Uncle Tom when I said I wasn't interested in the movie for this reason, even though it had nothing to do with race.
The premise of WWII has been used constantly in entertainment to the point where it's monotonous (in both movies and video games). It's very cliche.Almost like Godwin's law except in the media. LOL.
In a way, I agree with you, but there are still some WWII movies I enjoy a good deal. But to each his own
@texasdeathmatch said:Mofo's always pull the race card, god it's fckin annoying. You do one thing to a woman and it's RAPE! RAPE!Why not?The premise of WWII has been used constantly in entertainment to the point where it's monotonous (in both movies and video games). It's very cliche. Apparently, my homegirl (or more importantly, a girl who's bothered by the fact that I'm no longer attracted to her) thinks I'm an Uncle Tom when I said I wasn't interested in the movie for this reason, even though it had nothing to do with race.
Her actual response was "Your just a little oreo cookie," which is essentially the same as calling me an Uncle Tom, but in an ignorant, 'I'm-from-the-hood' manner.Mofo's always pull the race card, god it's fckin annoying. You do one thing to a woman and it's RAPE! RAPE!
But, that's okay. I mean, she's probably bothered by the fact that I stop calling and/or texting her phone since July of last year, which is why she talks to me sideways now.
Almost like Godwin's law except in the media. LOL. In a way, I agree with you, but there are still some WWII movies I enjoy a good deal. But to each his ownDude, I haven't even seen Saving Private Ryan. That's how bad it is.
@comicdude23 said:Okay. But man with a woman they need to be texted every 5 mins from a man to live, it's your life. If you don't wanna text then don't, texting is overrated IMO. I just make a call.Mofo's always pull the race card, god it's fckin annoying. You do one thing to a woman and it's RAPE! RAPE!Her actual response was "Your just a little oreo cookie," which is essentially the same as calling me an Uncle Tom, but in an ignorant, 'I'm-from-the-hood' manner. But, that's okay. I mean, she's probably bothered by the fact that I stop calling and/or texting her phone since July of last year, which is why she talks to be sideways now.
@texasdeathmatch said:Hah, that's interesting. My girl felt the same way about Red Tails (being black and having that "obligation" to watch movies like that), but she had no interest in seeing it, so I can kinda see where you're coming from.Why not?The premise of WWII has been used constantly in entertainment to the point where it's monotonous (in both movies and video games). It's very cliche. Apparently, my homegirl (or more importantly, a girl who's bothered by the fact that I'm no longer attracted to her) thinks I'm an Uncle Tom when I said I wasn't interested in the movie for this reason, even though it had nothing to do with race.
I would rather see him stick with Star Wars and Indiana Jones for the rest of his career (no matter how bad he screws them up now) or have him move on like any other director does and let someone else take the reigns. He is a great mind but other people can come up with fresh ideas. I think if anything he should be a consultant for directors like James Cameron (i would love to see those two sit down {maybe even those two and Spielberg} and come up with something)
Okay. But man with a woman they need to be texted every 5 mins from a man to live, it's your life. If you don't wanna text then don't, texting is overrated IMO. I just make a call.They get salty when you don't text back or don't chase them. Oh, well.
@texasdeathmatch said:
Hah, that's interesting. My girl felt the same way about Red Tails (being black and having that "obligation" to watch movies like that), but she had no interest in seeing it, so I can kinda see where you're coming from.I don't understand why Black people feel obligated to watch a movie just because it's targeting a Black audience. I mean, it's a movie. Why can't they watch it with interest? Why is the race its targeting the reason for watching it? A large percentage of films targeting a Black audience nowadays are mediocre at best (you can thank Tyler Perry). A lot of them were better in the 90's, anyway.
Disagree. There really is nothing left for Lucas to do with Star Wars. He made his movies and has since established that there will be no more of them. He created TCW. What else is there? There is that live-action show they were intending to make, but how much involvement Lucas was supposed to have in it, I have no idea. If anything, he stopped at the right time. As for Indiana Jones, I saw a comment by Harrison Ford from a while back where he said Lucas and Spielberg were interested in making more, but I see no real reason why they should.I would rather see him stick with Star Wars and Indiana Jones for the rest of his career (no matter how bad he screws them up now)
Haha I agree, its total bullsh*t. Especially since the Tuskegee were total badasses from what I've read. But unfortunately since the movie's leading cast is all black actors, people tend it write it off just as that.@texasdeathmatch said:
Hah, that's interesting. My girl felt the same way about Red Tails (being black and having that "obligation" to watch movies like that), but she had no interest in seeing it, so I can kinda see where you're coming from.I don't understand why Black people feel obligated to watch a movie just because it's targeting a Black audience. I mean, it's a movie. Why can't they watch it with interest? Why is the race its targeting the reason for watching it? A large percentage of films targeting a Black audience nowadays are mediocre at best (you can thank Tyler Perry). A lot of them were better in the 90's, anyway.
And yes, the 90s were way better:
@Silver2467 said:
@DEGRAAF said:Disagree. There really is nothing left for Lucas to do with Star Wars. He made his movies and has since established that there will be no more of them. He created TCW. What else is there? There is that live-action show they were intending to make, but how much involvement Lucas was supposed to have in it, I have no idea. If anything, he stopped at the right time. As for Indiana Jones, I saw a comment by Harrison Ford from a while back where he said Lucas and Spielberg were interested in making more, but I see no real reason why they should.I would rather see him stick with Star Wars and Indiana Jones for the rest of his career (no matter how bad he screws them up now)
And see i actually agree with you that he stopped at a good time but he should have allow others to go on with his consent (him having to read and ok the script before letting anyone get near the franchise). what is TCW
I think they could go on and on with Indiana Jones but i do think the last one was done poorly, it they actually plan on moving in the direction of Indy's son then i would be ok with that. It could become a legacy of the family.
I guess.And see i actually agree with you that he stopped at a good time but he should have allow others to go on with his consent (him having to read and ok the script before letting anyone get near the franchise).
The Clone Wars, the current animated show.what is TCW
In theory, I believe they could continue the Indy franchise as well, but there is no substantial purpose for it that I can discern.I think they could go on and on with Indiana Jones but i do think the last one was done poorly, it they actually plan on moving in the direction of Indy's son then i would be ok with that. It could become a legacy of the family.
@Silver2467 said:
@progenitor said:It is far fetched. I can understand people hating the prequels. I cannot understand people taking that to such a ridiculous extreme to say that Lucas ruined their childhood. Seriously, I pity people who had that much invested in Star Wars. And Lucas has had very little to do with the current Clone Wars show. He was the one who conceived of the idea for the show to be created. His creative input has been limited, as far as I know, and even then, the show is directed at younger viewers. Besides that, the show really should only bother people like me who can recognize the continuity flaws the show creates. You can blame it on Dave Filoni, Tim Burns, Kevin Campbell, etc. Ewoks and Indiana Jones, I agree with. Those were rather bad and were low points for Lucas. The former, however, was intended for a very young audience; so I can hardly blame him that it has no appeal to me. The latter, that was just a poor idea.@Silver2467 said:
@WarMachineMarkV said:
Nice to know people are still jumping on that pathetic and pitiable "Lucas raped my childhood!" bandwagon.After watching him bend over out childhoods with Star Wars Episiode 1-3, and Indiana Jones 4
It's not quite so far-fetched. "Rape" childhood memories? No, but make them into garbage? Yeah. Ewoks? Star Wars: Clone Wars? Indiana Jones 4? Much like George Romero for his genre, he's lost his spark.
- It was a comment in jest, do you really think I feel personally scarred by his movies?
- Pathetic and pitiful applies more to someone making statements like this based off of a single comment instead of asking first. If I really felt wounded by it your scorn would be deserved, but come on
I never said you were "scarred" by anything, and your intended meaning being unstated and altogether undefined, as well as the wording of the exaggeration itself being literal in many cases, does nothing to hurt my point. Exaggerated or otherwise, it is a very unfounded remark. Maybe you were unaware of how serious some people were about the comment in question; now you know.- It was a comment in jest, do you really think I feel personally scarred by his movies?
Either way, I'm sorry for offending you. My reply was meant as a criticism for your post, not as an insult toward you.
I think its great, I think the new movie looks great! His 1st movie was a small film with a big dream and I consider it to be the greatest movie ever made. So... He's a brilliant man whose ideas got away from him. We all said that we wanted to see the Jedi and Sith in action and he gave it to us, and then we all complained about it when it wasn't exactly what we wanted. And for those that don't think he has anything to do with Star Wars anymore, you are wrong nothing gets out of the SWU without him going over every detail, he is in complete control to this day. He even oversaw the Family Guy Star Wars.
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