@sinikettu said:
@fallingcliffs said:
@sinikettu: Well 10 years ago Al Qaida was the bigger threat(for obvious reasons) not so much Korea, but we kept an eye on them. Now lol Korea has gone up in power and we're more or less caving to them with our current leadership, but not just them but ISIS, terrorits at G.Bay etc, etc. IMO it makes us look very weak. I know the iraq war had lots of debate but at least there's one less dictator to worry about, and one less terrorist leader that's how I see it.
Sure Saddam was a dictator and not exactly a nice guy but he actually kept Iraq in some kind of line and made sure all those religious whack-jobs like ISIS, Al-Qaida, Sunni Vs. Shia islam Vs Wahhabi islamists and what not would be firmly kept under the rock by his secret police, and he did believe in keeping care of his people as long as they didn't openly oppose him I.e the best educational and medical care etc. of the Middle East discounting Israel. His ousting destabilised the Middle East pretty severely though the chaos of Iraq would probably have happened anyway in a decade or so when he'd been too old to hold power (saddam was well over 70 already) like in the case of Gadaffi at Libya.
But none of this has nay real bearing to why sony or Paramount would stop showing team America and honestly I find it odd that N.K would even bother with something like cyberstrike to deter one film/show no matter how provocative it might have seemed to Kim-dynasty.
That's a hellish line to live though, you know? I mean a lot of people were dancing in the streets and celebrating once Saddam was dead after years of tyranny, especially when they pulled down his statue. I'm sure some people "accepted" that way of life but let's be real here, that's no real way of life....to me it was submission, slavery and oppression. Which is never good whether you're Hitler, Saddam, Kim, Castro whoever...I mean getting killed or executed for speaking out against these guys is not a good thing. They had a more conqueror mentality, where as the terrorists ISIS, Taliban, Al-Qaida etc are just nutjobs who kill you for not agreeing, humiliate you, decapitate you and record it. Now they kill innocent children in schools and those who have different beliefs? I mean this is the kind of evil we have to eradicate, sadly guys like Obama aren't good for this. The second they heard him say "we must negotiate with these people" they saw weakness as oppose to some past presidents who say "we will hunt you down and protect our nation"
Regardless of how any of us feel politically which party etc, it's really irrelevant at this point because cases like this we've had presidents for both parties with guts and those without. The guy currently has none what so ever. I mean Bangazi was totally ignored by Obama, ISIS he made a lame speech and yet nothing is done about them, he cares nothing for the boarders, threats etc not to rant off here but point is the current leader of the country makes a difference. Bush wasn't perfect, but the guy had guts, Obama doesn't and our enemies know this.
You see how people would would react differently to those kinds of receptions/responces. You know?
But on the whole Middle East, sadly the other stuff with Israel and Pakistan I think will always be war that has been going on for hundreds of years now. I just remember when Team America came out, Bin Laden and Al-Quaida were threatening the South Park creators, I think they got threatened twice actually once for that and another for an episode mocking Bin Laden if memory serves me right.
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