@Nelomaxwell said:
@King-Stranglehold da first:
Yeah I remember watching those videos. But check this out...Some interesting new was released on December that King Ramses III was E1b1a (now called E-M2). I believe you heard of it, but if you have not than here it is...
Anybody who knows anything about e1b1a knows its mostly found amoung Sub Saharan Africans most notably West Africans, Central Africans and South Africans from the Bantu migration.
Now everyone is asking how the hell did E1b1a get into Ancient Egypt?
Well...One should note that e1b1a is found in the Sudan at 20%. And it is NOT RECENT.
Also presence of severe sickle cell found in the mummies would strongly suggest its (E1b1a's, that is) presence is not a result of more recent events.
They found Benin sickle cell in Ancient Egyptian mummies, after all:
"We conducted a molecular investigation of the presence of sicklemia in six predynastic Egyptian mummies (about 3200 BC) from the Anthropological and Ethnographic Museum of Turin. Previous studies of these remains showed the presence of severe anemia, while histological preparations of mummified tissues revealed hemolytic disorders."
- Marin et. al. 1999, Use of the Amplification Refractory Mutation System (ARMS) in the Study of HbS in Predynastic Egyptian Remains."
Here is a map of where sickle cell comes from:
Like the paper says, they had severe sickle cell. And this wouldn't be the only thing challenging a more recent spread of E1b1a to the region. Less severe sickle cell exists (though it's not what they found).
"The Benin haplotype was found in patients with severe disease, either as homozygous or in combination with another haplotype. The majority of Syrians and Jordanians had the Benin haplotype, and severe disease. However, one in three Syrians and one in five Jordanians had a milder disease, and the Saudi-Indian haplotype was identified."
- el-Hazmi et. al. 1999, Haplotypes of the beta-globin gene as prognostic factors in sickle-cell disease.
Also you should know, West Africa has a connection straight to Egypt & Sudan. Africa once had a third great River besides the Nile and Niger Rivers which was infact connected straight to the Niger River through Lake Chad, one of Africa's great lakes along with Lake Victoria. Clearly these acted as significant pumps for people when one considers that the Nile River goes straight to its source in mountainous Northern Ethiopia, the "Mountain of the Moon", which is where the Ancient Egyptians said they came from.
Here is a map of the now non-existent River:
Also King Tut was said to have died of sickle cells and he has severe sickle cells. You can read about it in the links below....
http://news.discovery.com/history/tut-pharaoh-blood-disease.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/history/king-tut-died-from-sicklecell-disease-not-malaria-2010531.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19094-tutankhamen-killed-by-sicklecell-disease.html
Also one should also take note that the Yoruba people claim they descend from Ancient Egypt.
Now on to DNAtribes...DNAtribes study's found the King Tut and other Amarna Mummies were mainly of African DNA(South, Africa's Great lake and Tropical West African).
http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf
Here is a chart by them:
This 100% correlates with Ramesses III being e1b1a.
Not only this...But DNAconstruct also says the Amarna mummies are mainly of African DNA.
King Tut:
"Like most of the other genes in the family, it is Central African in ancient origin, but unlike the other markers it has a sparse distribution outside Africa with a worldwide average frequency of 4%. Still, Africans and African-influenced populations (1 in about 10) are about twice or three times as likely to have it as non-Africans."
Source:
http://dnaconsultants.com/king-tut-gene
Akhenaten:
"Named for the pharaoh who attempted to convert Egypt to monotheism, this autosomal ancestry marker like most of the Amarna family group’s DNA is clearly Africanin origin. Akhenaten received it from his mother, Queen Tiye. Today, it is the gene type carried by a majority (52%) of the Copts living in the Pre-dynastic site of Adaima near Thebes or Luxor and the Valley of the Kings on the Nile River in Upper (southern) Egypt. The ancient marker makes a good showing in the Middle East and in Jews as well as parts of southern Europe close to Africa, such as southern Italy and Spain, but it is reduced to low levels in Asia and the Americas (except where brought there by Africans or people carrying some African ancestry). A[b]bout 2 in 5 Africans or African Americans has it[/b]. Among Melungeons, the figure is 1 in 3."
Source:
http://dnaconsultants.com/akhenaten-gene
Thuya:
"One of the autosomal ancestry markers prominent in the Royal Egyptian families of the New Kingdom, this not-so-rare gene is Central African in origin and was passed to Thuya from her forebears, Queens of Upper and Lower Egypt and High Priestesses of Hathor, the Mother Goddess. Thuya passed it to her grandson Akhenaten and great-grandson Tutankhamun, among others, as documented in a forensic study of the Amarna mummies by Zahi Hawass, head of the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Cairo, in 2010. Today, its highest incidence is in Somalians at nearly 50%. It is found in 40% of Muslim Egyptians. On average, 1 in 3 Africans or African Americans carries it. It crops up in high concentrations in many places around the world such as the Basque region (41%) and in Melungeons (31%, similar to Middle Easterners), but is present at only low levels in East and South Asia, as well as Native America. Its lowest frequency is in the Chukchi of Siberia (3%)."
Source:
http://dnaconsultants.com/thuya-gene
This is all hard proof that the Ancient Egyptians were a indigenous African group.
This was from King Stranglehold Da First. In the black people thread thought it was intresting@VercingetorixTheGreat:
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