Einstein and his Teacher

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Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

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#2  Edited By utotheg38

lol, Their defense I usually vague like "God works in mysterious ways"

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#3  Edited By Supreme Marvel

This has been going around facebook for weeks now.

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#4  Edited By Mekboy

Can you see unicorns?

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#5  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@Supreme Marvel said:

This has been going around facebook for weeks now.

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#6  Edited By OmegaDynasty

 The Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence!


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#7  Edited By Cozy_Da_Djed_Eye

@OmegaDynasty said:

The Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence!

Lol, is that from Ed and Rummy?

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#8  Edited By Cozy_Da_Djed_Eye

@lykopis said:

This is one of the worst examples I have ever seen. It's too easy to tear apart.

I can apply the same reasoning to the Tooth Fairy - Santa Claus - Strega Nonna and various monsters and mythical creatures imaginative people have conjured up over millenia. No disrespect, but you put this out there and all it did was further prove the disconnect and intentional ignorance religious advocacy perpetrates.

All I know -- during wintertime and its night --- I wear a thick jacket, gloves, scarf and hat with my car's headlights on. You know -- because of the absence of what would make all that unnecessary.

Thanks for the insight.

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#9  Edited By joshmightbe

Einstein was Jewish

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#10  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@CozyDaPrynce said:

@OmegaDynasty said:

The Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence!

Lol, is that from Ed and Rummy?

Yes, yes it is. 
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#11  Edited By mikethekiller

Why must sh*t from facebook follow me onto comicvine?

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#12  Edited By Hawkeye446

@lykopis said:

This is one of the worst examples I have ever seen. It's too easy to tear apart.

I can apply the same reasoning to the Tooth Fairy - Santa Claus - Strega Nonna and various monsters and mythical creatures imaginative people have conjured up over millenia. No disrespect, but you put this out there and all it did was further prove the disconnect and intentional ignorance religious advocacy perpetrates.

All I know -- during wintertime and its night --- I wear a thick jacket, gloves, scarf and hat with my car's headlights on. You know -- because of the absence of what would make all that unnecessary.

:D

Your end example made me laugh.

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#14  Edited By ssejllenrad

@joshmightbe said:

Einstein was Jewish

But his belief is Pandeist.

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#15  Edited By joshmightbe

@ssejllenrad: true but the teacher asked if he was Christian and according to the OP he said yes which proves this story to be fiction

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#16  Edited By SC  Moderator
@lykopis:  
 
Random Guy: You are a Christian aren't you son? 
 
Other Random Guy: Yes I am.   
 
Random Guy: The type that watches the The O'Reilly Factor and walks across the road when you see someone of "colour" walking towards you? 
 
Other Random Guy: Yes, yes I am.   
 
Random Guy: Do you believe in exploitation? 
 
Other Random Guy: You mean, like taking advantage of a persons ignorance, emotional investment or psychological worldview to spread a mini meme advocating poor logic and poor reasoning?  
 
Random Guy: Thats one way sure, oh and do you know what a Straw Man argument is son? 
  
Other Random Guy: Like trying to address an argument or position by not actually trying to address the argument or position instead you just make it sound like you are and anyone too inconsiderate, ignorant and stupid to realize will clap at it like hungry horny seals being fed fish embedded with Viagra pills?   
  
Random Guy: Yes, or creating a hypothetical situation with an idiot professor who doesn't seem to understand what science, logic, senses or reason are and sounds foolish and kid who sounds like he is regurgitating Kirk Cameron regurgitating Ray Comfort regurgitating William Lane Craig arguments.  
 
Other Random Guy: Like purposefully faulty examples set up to be proved fallacious in order to try and give the person disproving it credibility so later on they can try and exchange on that credibility with their own fallacious arguments?  
 
(a dove flies dramatically out of the class)  
 
Random Guy: Oh and trying to assign negative traits to things based on a very egocentric point of view? 
 
Other Random Guy: Thinking there are five senses?   
 
Random Guy: Bizarre lessons in semantics that try to be thought provoking to those easily amused?  
 
(a small girl passes wind) 
 
Other Random Guy: Failure to recognize applications of arguments exclusivity or consequences of acceptance of plausibility of them henceforth.     
 
Random Guy: Thinking evolution is humans evolved from monkeys instead of sharing a common ancestor with them? 
 
Other Random Guy: Hey hey, don't be harsh, I mean, Banana's were designed perfect to fit the human hand? Intelligent Design or Creationism FTW right? Son?   
 
Random Guy: Trying to equate lack of first hand observation as basis for the implementation of a substituted form of faith rather than considering the alternatives?   
 
(several onlookers start dancing in formation as if they were channeling the Ginyu Force) 
 
Other Random Guy: Oh oh and if your best friend, partner, wife, husband, son or daughter, mother or father, sister, brother, friend, loved one, falls very ill, you don't need to take them to a doctor right? Since you can just have faith that god will heal them right? I mean, can't see in a doctors brain to see if its different to a random homeless guys brain so invoking and misunderstanding means no need to go to a doctor or a hospital right?  
  
(the crowd cheers and starts undressing)     
 
Random Guy: I guess I will have to STFU then LOL and go make more hypothetical meme stories to sate my emotional need to be right. Sagan and Spongebob, Newton and his Nanny. Pascal and his Proctologist.   
 
Other Random Guy: Yes, exactly, that is it! Use ignorance and stupidity to undermine the things that gave you things like computers and make public education systems look bad! 
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#17  Edited By _Black

I hate when people post this on Facebook thinking they are intelligently defending Christianity.

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#18  Edited By joshmightbe

@_Black: especially considering the fact that claiming Einstein had this conversation is an obvious blatant lie due to the fact that Einstein wasn't a Christian.

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#19  Edited By _Black

@joshmightbe: And that Einstein was definitely smart enough to not make such a mistaken "logical" argument.

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#20  Edited By joshmightbe

@_Black: Einstein did believe there was a god but he'd have come up with a much better argument for it. On top of that at the time when Einstein was going to school a teacher probably would've been fired for even suggesting there wasn't a god considering it was the early 20th century eastern Europe prior to the Soviet revolution so Atheism was considered a really bad thing.

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@joshmightbe: Actually Einstein was more of an agnostic.

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."

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#22  Edited By joshmightbe

@Ebbm: That's true but I didn't want to make a huge post explaining his thoughts on religion, He did believe in the possibility of an intelligent creator at least he did later in life. My point was that this statement is either a lie or a piece of fiction mistaken for fact

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#23  Edited By Ebbm

@joshmightbe said:

@Ebbm: My point was that this statement is either a lie or a piece of fiction mistaken for fact

True, its funny to see religious people providing "proof" of their god by citing a man who said the quote I posted.

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#24  Edited By joshmightbe

@Ebbm: Its kinda like citing Darwin to prove intelligent design

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#25  Edited By Hawkeye446

@joshmightbe said:

@_Black: especially considering the fact that claiming Einstein had this conversation is an obvious blatant lie due to the fact that Einstein wasn't a Christian.

:O People actually think that's a real conversation? WTH? -_-

@SC: Very good.

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#26  Edited By ssejllenrad

"Humans evolved from monkeys"... Apparently said by Einstein.. Yeah right!!!! As joshmightbe has said, this is quite a hoax.

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"I put an even amount of socks in but an odd amount came out. You can't explain that, but God can."

-Carl Sagan

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"Bread goes in, toast comes out. God truly works in mysterious ways."

-Stephen Hawking

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#29  Edited By joshmightbe

@The Man of Yesteryear: Gnomes did it

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"Magnets, how do they work? Another miracle of God."

-Isaac newton

^ This one might actually be somewhat accurate because Newton pretty much threw up his hands and said "God did it" when he hit the proverbial brick wall.

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#31  Edited By ssejllenrad

@The Man of Yesteryear: Magneto is a god? I knew it! battle forums, here I come!

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#32  Edited By Cozy_Da_Djed_Eye

Thanks for trashing Christianity for me guys. I couldn't have done it without you. Cozy out.