DWIGHT HOWARD AND THE LAKERS

he will make no difference

how do you think about the trade of howard to the lakers

maybe he is desesperate 4 a ring?? , try to copy shaq ???

@Vance Astro:Spurs or thunder will knock out the lakers.Howard like i said will make no difference on getting lakers to the finals he ain't that good,Just another big man.

Maybe OKC and the Lakers should fuse, and Boston and Miami should fuse, and then play one big game, a game of just All Stars. The NBA better get on that, its a brilliant idea.

Maybe OKC and the Lakers should fuse, and Boston and Miami should fuse, and then play one big game, a game of just All Stars. The NBA better get on that, its a brilliant idea.

God I hate the Lakers cause I"m a Mavs fans and a Celtics fan but they got a good chance to win the champion with Kobe Bryant,Pal Gasol,Steve Nash and Dwight Howard not only they got a good bench.

Upgrading Bynum with Dwight will not make much of a difference in my opinion, Bynum wasn't what was wrong against OKC. Upgrading Ramon Sessions & whichever person took turns backing up Kobe with Steve Nash & Jodie Meeks is what will put the Lakers over the top.

Upgrading Bynum with Dwight will not make much of a difference in my opinion, Bynum wasn't what was wrong against OKC. Upgrading Ramon Sessions & whichever person took turns backing up Kobe with Steve Nash & Jodie Meeks is what will put the Lakers over the top.

@Vance Astro: In my opinion, if we had Dwight instead of Drew last year, Lakers would still lose. The way the other teams just crowded Drew & Pau because our guards not only couldnt make a shot, they were too scared to even take one. That's why I don't think Dwight would make that big of a difference. We already had a dominant presence down low, don't see how it changes much now as oppose to the other acquisitions.

Also what we gained in def w/Dwight, I think we lost some offense by trading Drew away.

Lakers down by 4 with 10 seconds to go & no timeouts left, I'd seriously consider benching Dwight because at that point he could be a liability with the other team just hacking him if he gets the ball. Especially if you have Jamison & Pau as the option down there, there may not be a reason to put Dwight in the game. With Drew, I just think back to the game in Dal where he got the ball, made the winning play and the thought of benching him in that situation will never cross my mind.

Also not very happy that Dwight isn't even be cleared to run because of his back & training camp starts in 7, 8 weeks?

@Vance Astro: In my opinion, if we had Dwight instead of Drew last year, Lakers would still lose. The way the other teams just crowded Drew & Pau because our guards not only couldnt make a shot, they were too scared to even take one. That's why I don't think Dwight would make that big of a difference. We already had a dominant presence down low, don't see how it changes much now as oppose to the other acquisitions.

Also what we gained in def w/Dwight, I think we lost some offense by trading Drew away.

Lakers down by 4 with 10 seconds to go & no timeouts left, I'd seriously consider benching Dwight because at that point he could be a liability with the other team just hacking him if he gets the ball. Especially if you have Jamison & Pau as the option down there, there may not be a reason to put Dwight in the game. With Drew, I just think back to the game in Dal where he got the ball, made the winning play and the thought of benching him in that situation will never cross my mind.

Also not very happy that Dwight isn't even be cleared to run because of his back & training camp starts in 7, 8 weeks?

@Vance Astro said:

@KnightRise said:

Maybe OKC and the Lakers should fuse, and Boston and Miami should fuse, and then play one big game, a game of just All Stars. The NBA better get on that, its a brilliant idea.

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a joke, based on a Fry meme that said "Not sure if 2013 AllStar line up or rosters of LA and Miami"

but they make a dramatic change in the roster they need time to make the players adapt and play well together and dont have time cause kobe and nash are too old

about the spurs more respect 4 timmy d is not a old ass player he is THE old ass player but cant stop howard

okc win ALL the games the last season vs LA cause they try to stop durant and failed maybe with howard they will defend more in a noemal defense but still think okc is better than LA cause in a counter when you have a slow nash a slow howard and a slow gasol in your team westbrook or durant make you pay

everybody is looking 4 the finals MAIMI vs LA but forgeting important things like the return of rose, the knicks and their new players like kidd , the clippers are improving pretty quick AND THE MOST IMPORTANT

THE CELTICS u can say they are old but always manage too make a great season rondo is playing in a god level shaw marion arrived to boston they are ALWAYS dangerous rivals

It was obviously an amazing trade for the Lakers, but I still do not think they are the team to beat in the West. That's still OKC. Kobe, Nash, and Artest aren't in their prime while OKC can only get better. This season should be great though.

Are you trying to say that if those players were in their prime, the Lakers would not be any better? Lol. I never meant to imply that OKC was perfect, rather that LA was not.

@Vance Astro:

Well w/o Drew or Dwight the Lakers make the playoffs too. Heck w/o Bynum, the 76ers will not be a playoff team.

But let's talk numbers & compare Drew's best year (11-12) to Dwight's best offensive year (10-11).

Drew avg 18.7ppg out of 13.3FGA, Dwight 22.9 ppg out of 13.4FAG.

From a glance it certainly looks like Dwight is blowing Drew out of the water but if you truly look at how many possessions they each have in order to get these numbers, the slight advantage goes to Drew.

Dwight avg 6.1 more FTs than Drew, that's roughly equates to 3 more FGA or possessions.

Dwight avg 3.6 TOs w/1.4 assists. Drew avg 2.5 TOs w/1.4 assists. That's another possesion in favor of Drew.

So in order for Dwight to avg 4.2 more points then Drew he needed 6 more FTs & 1 more TO or 4 possession. That doesn't scream out better to me. Then you think back to the game winner in Dal w/Drew & how Dwight never even had 1 in all his time as the so called 1st option, again.....

But answer me this, if you had a choice to pick 3 guys out of Dwight, Drew, Jamison & Gasol, would you risk putting Dwight in the game w/the scenario I brought up earlier, LAL down by 4 w/10 seconds to go knowing it will be a game of FTs?

@Vance Astro: Also I don't see Dwight avg anywhere near 20ppg as a Laker. Last year he would be the 3rd option behind Pau, Kobe & I don't see how in that scenario he would do better than Bynum's 18ppg. This year he'll be the 4th option behind Nash & he'll be lucky if he avgs 15 if everyone else is healthy.

@King Saturn said:

we will finally get Lebron vs Kobe in the NBA Finals... it just seems like it's a little too late since Lebron is in his Prime and Kobe is eh... starting to go downhill. It would be interesting to see how the Heat handle Superman though.

the dwayne wade`s heat (m talking about the heat without lebron and bosh) always beat orlando without problem i really dont think the heat will have many problems with howard

@Vance Astro:

Well w/o Drew or Dwight the Lakers make the playoffs too. Heck w/o Bynum, the 76ers will not be a playoff team.

But let's talk numbers & compare Drew's best year (11-12) to Dwight's best offensive year (10-11).

Drew avg 18.7ppg out of 13.3FGA, Dwight 22.9 ppg out of 13.4FAG.

From a glance it certainly looks like Dwight is blowing Drew out of the water but if you truly look at how many possessions they each have in order to get these numbers, the slight advantage goes to Drew.

Dwight avg 6.1 more FTs than Drew, that's roughly equates to 3 more FGA or possessions.

Dwight avg 3.6 TOs w/1.4 assists. Drew avg 2.5 TOs w/1.4 assists. That's another possesion in favor of Drew.

So in order for Dwight to avg 4.2 more points then Drew he needed 6 more FTs & 1 more TO or 4 possession. That doesn't scream out better to me. Then you think back to the game winner in Dal w/Drew & how Dwight never even had 1 in all his time as the so called 1st option, again.....

But answer me this, if you had a choice to pick 3 guys out of Dwight, Drew, Jamison & Gasol, would you risk putting Dwight in the game w/the scenario I brought up earlier, LAL down by 4 w/10 seconds to go knowing it will be a game of FTs?

@Vance Astro: Also I don't see Dwight avg anywhere near 20ppg as a Laker. Last year he would be the 3rd option behind Pau, Kobe & I don't see how in that scenario he would do better than Bynum's 18ppg. This year he'll be the 4th option behind Nash & he'll be lucky if he avgs 15 if everyone else is healthy.

@0n1zuka: Dwight's isn't going to avg 20 just based on the law of possessions. He's not getting the same opportunity anymore. And my whole point isn't to compare Dwight & Shaq, it's to compare Dwight's offense w/Drew. Drew isn't getting hacked cause he's a fairly good FT shooter. Especially in the playoffs when he made close to 80% of his FTs.

@Vance Astro: No i'm saying there wouldn't much of a change, positive or negative, by exchanging Drew w/Dwight as oppose to our other changes. Drew is a bit better & more efficient offensively while Dwight is a better defensively. I personally don't see a huge impact. It's not like the Lakers were horrible at def or reb last year. It was our offense & more importantly bench that was bad.

As far as how Dwight scores, yes it does matter. It's called efficiency. It matters if 1 guy avgs 30 ppg because he takes 20 possesions to do so as oppose to another person who can do it in 15. And yes Dwight's career has been better, theres no argueing that. But Drew just had his best year and he has been getting better each & every season while being I believe 3 years younger then Dwight?

@Vance Astro: No i'm saying there wouldn't much of a change, positive or negative, by exchanging Drew w/Dwight as oppose to our other changes. Drew is a bit better & more efficient offensively while Dwight is a better defensively. I personally don't see a huge impact. It's not like the Lakers were horrible at def or reb last year. It was our offense & more importantly bench that was bad.

As far as how Dwight scores, yes it does matter. It's called efficiency. It matters if 1 guy avgs 30 ppg because he takes 20 possesions to do so as oppose to another person who can do it in 15. And yes Dwight's career has been better, theres no argueing that. But Drew just had his best year and he has been getting better each & every season while being I believe 3 years younger then Dwight?

@Vance Astro: This a bit off-topic but are you a Laker fan, Vance?

@Vance Astro: Well it's hard for Bynum to do his job when the opposing guards are getting such penetration & he had to come and help. Unless Brown is changing the way we defend as a team then I foresee Dwight having the same problems. I'm not saying Bynum was perfect or Dwight will fail but it's just the nature of the beast. Bynum & Pau did a very good job def but you can't get all of them. Also, can't say Bynum's the weak link downlow when you have Pau over there with his non existent pick & roll def and we've never had a guard that can stay in front of their man.

With that being said I do feel we improved on D w/Dwight but like I said, I don't see that as much of a impact (and my key point here is) as oppose to the other changes since how good we were on D prior to Dwight. I can give you the numbers on how great we actually were def & how we really dominated OKC def in those middle 3 games when the Lakers should've been up 3-1 heading into g5 if not for our poor offense & late game executions.

You give me Jamison, Nash & Meeks instead of Sessions, Barnes & Goudelock last year & I think we beat OKC with someone like Marcus Camby in the middle.

@Vance Astro: Well it's hard for Bynum to do his job when the opposing guards are getting such penetration & he had to come and help. Unless Brown is changing the way we defend as a team then I foresee Dwight having the same problems. I'm not saying Bynum was perfect or Dwight will fail but it's just the nature of the beast. Bynum & Pau did a very good job def but you can't get all of them. Also, can't say Bynum's the weak link downlow when you have Pau over there with his non existent pick & roll def and we've never had a guard that can stay in front of their man.

With that being said I do feel we improved on D w/Dwight but like I said, I don't see that as much of a impact (and my key point here is) as oppose to the other changes since how good we were on D prior to Dwight. I can give you the numbers on how great we actually were def & how we really dominated OKC def in those middle 3 games when the Lakers should've been up 3-1 heading into g5 if not for our poor offense & late game executions.

You give me Jamison, Nash & Meeks instead of Sessions, Barnes & Goudelock last year & I think we beat OKC with someone like Marcus Camby in the middle.