Do you believe in God or Do you believe in Science?

its still off topic

" I believe that this is comicvine forum and not a religion or a science forum.  "

" @Wise Son said:

"@velle37: You wrote that science is God. Maybe you need to expound on that a bit more before we go further in. Regardless of the direction you're going in, what's the need for a religion in the context that he needs you to believe, to worship him, etc when science itself points to the contrary? God could have full well started this all and evolution is just his unintelligent design but don't you think that is a step to far. It's like you're throwing all this into the universe to prove that you don't exist (at least not in the form that most modern societies depict him as) but you want people to still believe and worship you so they can get into heaven or whatever. That's sadistic and manipulative. It's like extortion in a way. You have free will and intelligence but do what I say or you'll burn in hell for eternity. Obviously I'm using the Christian religion as it's pretty big these days. haha. "

What exists is what exists.........

 

Arbitration is ignorance and folly..........

 

If there is gawd, then there is gawd.............

 

If there is a being with the attributes of infinite perfection, that would not match what is widely proported, thus those stories of gawd are false.........

 

Gawd is whatever you make it.........

 

Infinite beauty, mathemeatics, philosophy, music, physics, logic, nature, color, sensation, taste, poetry, aesthetics, etc occupy the realm of my true love.........

 

Pure science, knowledge, and understanding.........

 

That is gawd regardless.......

 

Just, very few people find it............

"

" So what is everyone's stance on Jesus? Not to get away from the OP but there are too many inconsistencies and similarities with other mythical figures to convince me that he was the one. See below.

@velle37: Then why the need for religion?

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I believe in both, but I believe God created everything including science. Science can explain a lot of things, but the supernatural it cannot.

" @cyberninja said:

" I believe that this is comicvine forum and not a religion or a science forum.  "

There is religion in Comics. Comics is a religion all it self actually. "

" @velle37 said:

" @Wise Son said:

"@velle37: You wrote that science is God. Maybe you need to expound on that a bit more before we go further in. Regardless of the direction you're going in, what's the need for a religion in the context that he needs you to believe, to worship him, etc when science itself points to the contrary? God could have full well started this all and evolution is just his unintelligent design but don't you think that is a step to far. It's like you're throwing all this into the universe to prove that you don't exist (at least not in the form that most modern societies depict him as) but you want people to still believe and worship you so they can get into heaven or whatever. That's sadistic and manipulative. It's like extortion in a way. You have free will and intelligence but do what I say or you'll burn in hell for eternity. Obviously I'm using the Christian religion as it's pretty big these days. haha. "

What exists is what exists.........

 

Arbitration is ignorance and folly..........

 

If there is gawd, then there is gawd.............

 

If there is a being with the attributes of infinite perfection, that would not match what is widely proported, thus those stories of gawd are false.........

 

Gawd is whatever you make it.........

 

Infinite beauty, mathemeatics, philosophy, music, physics, logic, nature, color, sensation, taste, poetry, aesthetics, etc occupy the realm of my true love.........

 

Pure science, knowledge, and understanding.........

 

That is gawd regardless.......

 

Just, very few people find it............

"

Point taken but why does it have to be God and simply not nirvana or some other abstract concept? I'm arguing that it's impossible at our current level to definitively know that God does or does not exist. That's all. "

Gawd doesn't exist...

Gawd is a word.....

The emotional investment, connotations, and psychologically warping extremes of perception exist, because of ignorance and conditioning..........

But what emotions should be invested in, what connotations should be placed on a pedestal, and what should be perceptively pivotal is what I gave examples of............

" I believe in both.Although, I'm not going to go around asking God to get rid of my sore throat. I'll just take some cough medicine (if you get my drift). "

Is it too much to ask for both?

Science studies what God has created.

God gave us free thinking minds, therefore he gave us the ability to search for answers. Which is the foundation for science.

" God gave us free thinking minds, therefore he gave us the ability to search for answers. Which is the foundation for science. "

I don't see these as really being related.  Science essentially tries to answer the question "What is happening?" or "What happened?"  Religion is trying to answer the question "What does it all mean?"  One set of answers doesnt have to effect the other but both sides of the argument like to attack the other even though the answers from either one are mostly unrelated.  Very religious people who attack the scientifically minded over things like evolution are just as bad as the scientists who attack religious people for having faith.  

" Science studies what God has created. "

" God gave us free thinking minds, therefore he gave us the ability to search for answers. Which is the foundation for science. "

"These things are not mutally exclusive. "

I believe in God, and educate myself with science. 

" @cpt_linger: thats what i think, he was just someone who like you said was pretty smart for his time and just fooled everyone because people were much more gullible back then. "

I believe in both. I mean, science isn't supposed to be some kind of religion or anything, it's just going about and looking for the truth in things. No reason God and science can't coexist within the same fields of rationality, right?

Or am I wrong?

Neither and both at the same time depending on how you look at the question.

I'm a scienceman!

"These things are not mutally exclusive. "

i truly believe in both i believe god had made it so that science became existent now im aware that that has many flaws in my opinion but thats how i feel i was raised as a catholic and i understand that theres no denying science i love the ideas it brings so god intentially starting these scientifical things and ways just fits perfectly