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#1  Edited By joshmightbe

All this talk of turning vampires into sparkle fairies in twilight got me thinking about other things that we now consider cute and innocent that actually have quite scary origins

1. Cherubs
What we think of now- Chubby winged babies 
What they originally were- pretty much god's personal hit squad, Most of those biblical stories of angels burning cities to the ground and killing people were talking about cherubs
2. Mermaids
What we think of now- pretty girls with fish tails playing with fish and maybe singing upbeat disney tunes 
What they were- creatures who tempted sailors into the water so they could kill and eat them
this is all I can think of at the moment feel free to add more examples 
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#2  Edited By Loki9876

fairy what we think now miniature woman who can fly
what they were they adupted you on halloween if didn't give them something

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#3  Edited By XRiskyX

The habit of wishing somebody a good health when he's sneezing. A nice habit of caring and politeness. Originally it was meant to protect the other from the pest because a cold as well as the pest have the same starting symptomes.

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Kermmit the Frog was originally a coffee drinking sadistic killer.

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#5  Edited By velle37


Puppies....

Originally wolves.....

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#6  Edited By joshmightbe

This one I'm not sure if its true but if so is messed up, according to what I read Winnie the Pooh was originally based on a bear cub that burned to death in a forest fire

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Gizmo=Gremlins

 

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#9  Edited By hydrabob--defunct
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O_O you just ruined my childhood. I hope you are happy.
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@InnerVenom123 said:
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O_O you just ruined my childhood. I hope you are happy.
Or, did I just make it far, far more interesting?
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#11  Edited By joshmightbe

Most of the story of Santa is ripped off from a viking legend of a dude that would chop up naughty children and stuff them in a bag

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@InnerVenom123: no you ruined it. I'll never be able to watch cartoons again. I know have to watch Law & Order all the time.
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O_O...
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#14  Edited By velle37
@joshmightbe said:
Most of the story of Santa is ripped off from a viking legend of a dude that would chop up naughty children and stuff them in a bag

A lot of Christmas traditions come from ancient pagan rituals as well........
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@velle37: Same with Easter
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The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were originally cold blooded killers.

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Cubone from Pokemon wears the skull of his dead mother.

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O___o .......... I did not know that....
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LOL
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#20  Edited By joshmightbe
@InnerVenom123: where did you find the rugrats thing?
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#21  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt
@InnerVenom123 said:
Cubone from Pokemon wears the skull of his dead mother.

oh my god, i just understood how completly creepy that is, when i was a little kid i was like awwww and now just..........ewwww
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#22  Edited By InnerVenom123
@joshmightbe: Google "Rugrats, true story". They also have a theory about Dill and "All Grown Up" (It involves schziophrenia, bi-polar disorder, and crack babies.)
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In 1989, a week before Halloween, Jim Davis, the creator of the popular Garfield comic strip, began a short storyline in which Garfield discovered himself all alone in a dark, deserted house. No one had been in that house for years. So what was going on?

Wikipedia says that among the theories regarding the meaning of these strips, there's the possibility that "Garfield was either dead or starving to death in an abandoned house, imagining future strips in a state of denial."

Evidence supporting the idea that Garfield is dead and imagining current strips (and all others subsequent to October 28, 1989) in a state of denial:

October 27, 1989- During Garfield's odd experience, he suddenly sees Jon and Odie. Jon offers Garfield food. Jon disappears. If Garfield imagined Jon then, he could have gotten much better at imagining things. Maybe he could imagine his whole life. 

October 27, 1989- Caption: "Locked fast within a time when he no longer exists, Garfield grapples with his greatest fear… loneliness." How is he locked within this time? Two possibilities. Either he is imagining it (like in a dream), or it is real. If it is a dream, and he can't wake up, he's locked in. If it's real, and he can't change things (i.e., go back in time to when he was alive and when Jon still lived in the house), he's locked in. So the caption doesn't definitively specify one way or another (dream or reality), but it does leave room for the possibility that Garfield really is dead. 

October 28, 1989- Caption: "After years of taking life for granted, Garfield is shaken by a horrifying vision of the inevitable process called 'time.' He has only one weapon… denial." Maybe some of those years (the ones leading up to 1989) were also denial of his death. He "woke up" to reality for a few moments, realized the truth, and quickly dove back in to his make-believe world, using denial to shelter himself. 

October 28, 1989- Garfield says, "I don't want to be alone," and immediately Jon and Odie appear. Garfield is in the same position he was in the "Dead Garfield" reality. His arms were raised. If he had been sleeping, he likely wouldn't have been on the counter. He'd have been in his bed box. He'd have woken up, and still have been tucked in. So if the "Dead Garfield" reality was part of a dream, and Jon and Odie are part of Garfield's reality, then Garfield experienced that dream while moving around on the counter. That is unusual. Jon greets him with, "Want some breakfast, Garfield?" That is just like before, when he offered some food and then faded away. It seems like Garfield could very likely be imagining this resolution out of desperation. 

October 28, 1989- Caption: "An imagination is a powerful tool. It can tint memories of the past, shade perceptions of the present, or paint a future so vivid that it can entice … or terrify, all depending upon how we conduct ourselves today…END." The use of the ellipsis at the end seems to denote a "loose end." Does this caption mean that Garfield used his powerful imagination to paint a vivid future of things to be, and that future was terrifying? Or did it mean that he has finally woken up to the truth, that he is really dead, and will from now on use his powerful imagination to shade his perceptions of the present, so as to (re)create an imaginary and comforting home in place of a dark, abandoned house in which his spirit is locked?

 

 
 
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Too bad its horribly untrue. For a few reasons:
1. Susie is the same age as Angelica and is alive and can see and talk to the other babies.
2. Dil and Kimmie were introduced. I could see how Dil could be another stillborn child, but Kimmie was adopted, when Chaz got married. Can't adopt a child that doesn't exist.
3. In the Rugrats Go Wild Movie, the babies are met by other people, i.e. the Thornberries.
4. They grew up. Kinda hard to grow up and go to high school if you're dead

Myth Busted!
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Too bad its horribly untrue. For a few reasons:1. Susie is the same age as Angelica and is alive and can see and talk to the other babies.2. Dil and Kimmie were introduced. I could see how Dil could be another stillborn child, but Kimmie was adopted, when Chaz got married. Can't adopt a child that doesn't exist.3. In the Rugrats Go Wild Movie, the babies are met by other people, i.e. the Thornberries.4. They grew up. Kinda hard to grow up and go to high school if you're deadMyth Busted!
Myth busted - Killjoy exposed. :P
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@InnerVenom123 said:
@biggkeem89 said:
@InnerVenom123 said:
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Too bad its horribly untrue. For a few reasons:1. Susie is the same age as Angelica and is alive and can see and talk to the other babies.2. Dil and Kimmie were introduced. I could see how Dil could be another stillborn child, but Kimmie was adopted, when Chaz got married. Can't adopt a child that doesn't exist.3. In the Rugrats Go Wild Movie, the babies are met by other people, i.e. the Thornberries.4. They grew up. Kinda hard to grow up and go to high school if you're deadMyth Busted!
Myth busted - Killjoy exposed. :P
I prefer Mr. Killjoy, thank you very much. lol
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#27  Edited By InnerVenom123
@biggkeem89: Rugrats as a psychological thriller is so much better! xP
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#28  Edited By joshmightbe
@InnerVenom123: There is a theory that Jack from Fight Club is just an adult version of Calvin from Calvin and Hobbs, it also says that Tyler is Hobbs 
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#29  Edited By InnerVenom123
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@InnerVenom123: There is a theory that Jack from Fight Club is just an adult version of Calvin from Calvin and Hobbs, it also says that Tyler is Hobbs 
F**KING WIN.
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#30  Edited By joshmightbe
@InnerVenom123: The theory is actually pretty sound for the most part
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#31  Edited By biggkeem89

Spongebob is based of the 7 Deadly Sins:
Spongebob-Lust: The guy loves everything
Patrick-Sloth
Sandy-Pride
Mr. Crabs-Greed
Gary-Gluttony: Spongebob always has to feed Gary
Squidward: Wrath
Plankton-Envy
And traditionally there's an 8th sin:
Mrs. Puff-Despair

Casper the Friendly Ghost-Think about it. He had to at one point be Casper the Friendly Alive Kid. He effing died!

The Smurfs were created as magical slaves for an evil wizard

Incest in the Lion King. Think about it. Their were only two male lions in the Pride Lands: Mufasa and Scar. Simba ended up betrothed and in love with Nala. Meaning that she could only be his sister or his cousin. Wincest!

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#32  Edited By Aronmorales
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This was such a dark spin it made me laugh.
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Spongebob is based of the 7 Deadly Sins:Spongebob-Lust: The guy loves everythingPatrick-SlothSandy-PrideMr. Crabs-GreedGary-Gluttony: Spongebob always has to feed GarySquidward: WrathPlankton-EnvyAnd traditionally there's an 8th sin:Mrs. Puff-DespairCasper the Friendly Ghost-Think about it. He had to at one point be Casper the Friendly Alive Kid. He effing died!The Smurfs were created as magical slaves for an evil wizardIncest in the Lion King. Think about it. Their were only two male lions in the Pride Lands: Mufasa and Scar. Simba ended up betrothed and in love with Nala. Meaning that she could only be his sister or his cousin. Wincest!



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY CHILD-wait wasn't lion king based on a african story?    

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#34  Edited By joshmightbe
@Death Certificate: Actually it was loosely based on Hamlet
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#35  Edited By ARMIV

Baby on Board signs.

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#36  Edited By Shadow_Thief
@InnerVenom123: Oooh, Oh! Do Rocko's Modern Life next! :D
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Now that you mentioned it, take the ending of everybody dying at the end of hamlet and can see tons of comparsions. O_O
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#38  Edited By joshmightbe

I believe Timon and Pumba  were supposed to be Rosencrantz and Guildenstern 

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#39  Edited By goldenshot80
@TheBatman586Ohh you just ruined it for me >_>
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#40  Edited By joshmightbe
@goldenshot80: it actually improves it for me 
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#41  Edited By goldenshot80
@joshmightbe: Never could read them again >_>
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#42  Edited By Mr. Mercury
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Is on the brink of tears
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#43  Edited By InnerVenom123
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@InnerVenom123 said:
Cubone from Pokemon wears the skull of his dead mother.
oh my god, i just understood how completly creepy that is, when i was a little kid i was like awwww and now just..........ewwww
And when he evolves into marowak, it appears his head has grown into it to the point that he can't take it off.

Also, look at a baby cubone.

Then at a baby Kangaskhan.

Cubone are the orphan Kangaskhan children.
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#44  Edited By Mercy_
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I am not ashamed to admit that I have tears in my eyes.
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#45  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@InnerVenom123 said:
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:
@InnerVenom123 said:
Cubone from Pokemon wears the skull of his dead mother.
oh my god, i just understood how completly creepy that is, when i was a little kid i was like awwww and now just..........ewwww
And when he evolves into marowak, it appears his head has grown into it to the point that he can't take it off.Also, look at a baby cubone. Then at a baby Kangaskhan. Cubone are the orphan Kangaskhan children.
You bring an enjoyable sense of macabre to every conversation.
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#46  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

According to Pokémon early concepts, baby Kangaskhan were originally slated to be it's own individual Pokémon. In addition, it was planned to have two possible evolution stages. If its mother Kangaskhan fainted a certain number of times, it would die and the baby Kangaskhan would evolve into a Cubone which could be supported by the fact that the head aesthetics of Kangaskhan is identical to that of the skull worn by Cubone and its successor stage,Marowak (which would have evolved into Kangaskhan). However, due to difficulties laying out how loop holes in how the events leading to the events, the idea was scrapped the last minute prior to the first games release.    

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#48  Edited By InnerVenom123
@Lance Uppercut said:
@InnerVenom123 said:
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:
@InnerVenom123 said:
Cubone from Pokemon wears the skull of his dead mother.
oh my god, i just understood how completly creepy that is, when i was a little kid i was like awwww and now just..........ewwww
And when he evolves into marowak, it appears his head has grown into it to the point that he can't take it off.Also, look at a baby cubone. Then at a baby Kangaskhan. Cubone are the orphan Kangaskhan children.
You bring an enjoyable sense of macabre to every conversation.
Thank you! :)
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#49  Edited By XRiskyX
@TheBatman586 said:

In 1989, a week before Halloween, Jim Davis, the creator of the popular Garfield comic strip, began a short storyline in which Garfield discovered himself all alone in a dark, deserted house. No one had been in that house for years. So what was going on?

Wikipedia says that among the theories regarding the meaning of these strips, there's the possibility that "Garfield was either dead or starving to death in an abandoned house, imagining future strips in a state of denial."

Evidence supporting the idea that Garfield is dead and imagining current strips (and all others subsequent to October 28, 1989) in a state of denial:

October 27, 1989- During Garfield's odd experience, he suddenly sees Jon and Odie. Jon offers Garfield food. Jon disappears. If Garfield imagined Jon then, he could have gotten much better at imagining things. Maybe he could imagine his whole life. 

October 27, 1989- Caption: "Locked fast within a time when he no longer exists, Garfield grapples with his greatest fear… loneliness." How is he locked within this time? Two possibilities. Either he is imagining it (like in a dream), or it is real. If it is a dream, and he can't wake up, he's locked in. If it's real, and he can't change things (i.e., go back in time to when he was alive and when Jon still lived in the house), he's locked in. So the caption doesn't definitively specify one way or another (dream or reality), but it does leave room for the possibility that Garfield really is dead. 

October 28, 1989- Caption: "After years of taking life for granted, Garfield is shaken by a horrifying vision of the inevitable process called 'time.' He has only one weapon… denial." Maybe some of those years (the ones leading up to 1989) were also denial of his death. He "woke up" to reality for a few moments, realized the truth, and quickly dove back in to his make-believe world, using denial to shelter himself. 

October 28, 1989- Garfield says, "I don't want to be alone," and immediately Jon and Odie appear. Garfield is in the same position he was in the "Dead Garfield" reality. His arms were raised. If he had been sleeping, he likely wouldn't have been on the counter. He'd have been in his bed box. He'd have woken up, and still have been tucked in. So if the "Dead Garfield" reality was part of a dream, and Jon and Odie are part of Garfield's reality, then Garfield experienced that dream while moving around on the counter. That is unusual. Jon greets him with, "Want some breakfast, Garfield?" That is just like before, when he offered some food and then faded away. It seems like Garfield could very likely be imagining this resolution out of desperation. 

October 28, 1989- Caption: "An imagination is a powerful tool. It can tint memories of the past, shade perceptions of the present, or paint a future so vivid that it can entice … or terrify, all depending upon how we conduct ourselves today…END." The use of the ellipsis at the end seems to denote a "loose end." Does this caption mean that Garfield used his powerful imagination to paint a vivid future of things to be, and that future was terrifying? Or did it mean that he has finally woken up to the truth, that he is really dead, and will from now on use his powerful imagination to shade his perceptions of the present, so as to (re)create an imaginary and comforting home in place of a dark, abandoned house in which his spirit is locked?

 

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Usually I am a pretty dark person but when it comes to Garfield I prepare the funnier version.... Man, do I hope this not to be true. A poor Kitty starving in a house. It breaks my heart.
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Well, since someone brought up cubone and marowak, I may as well throw in some creepy poke-stuff too.

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This is Yamask, one of the new pokemon from black and white.  He's a ghost type.  He's a cute little fella, see that mask he's carrying?  Well he's carrying it because it was his face, from when he was human. 

Yamask's pokedex entry from black is as follows: Each of them carries a mask that used to be its face from when it was human.  Sometimes they look at it and cry.  From White: These pokemon arose from spirits interred in graves from past ages.  Each retains memories from its former life. A ghost pokemon that's an actual ghost.

Think about that for a second.  That pokemon used to be a person, he could of had a wife, children, or pokemon of his own, then he dies in a car crash, or gets hit by a stray thunderbolt or flamethrower and instead of going into the next world, he wakes up as a pokemon. Then what if he gets captured by one of his children, or a friend or that guy at work that drinks all the coffee and never makes a fresh pot?  You now have a new life where you get beaten up a lot, and you go from living in a nice house to a hot cramped pokeball.  What's even worse is that at level 37 you turn into this:
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A big, slow, gold eating coffin named Cofagrigus.