Can God create a rock that he himself cannot lift?

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#1  Edited By ImmovableRay

Lol I was volunteering at a community kitchen and I asked one of the other volunteers this question. She was an old Christian woman lol. She got pretty upset when I asked her this (as much "upset" as an old lady will get). But it blew my mind the first time I heard it.

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If anything is truly possible as Christians claim - then yes.

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#3  Edited By those_eyes

Lol I was volunteering at a community kitchen and I asked one of the other volunteers this question. She was an old Christian woman lol. She got pretty upset when I asked her this (as much "upset" as an old lady will get). But it blew my mind the first time I heard it.

lol what did she say to you?

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No. It's out of Gods character.. and he wouldn't be God.

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God can do anything that logically makes sense. God not lifting a rock makes no sense.

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#6  Edited By kyrees

yes, god can create a rock that he can't lift and lift it accordingly.

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Wouldn't either of the two outcomes mean he's not really omnipotent?

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Just take it to space ab and lift it sheesh

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Pickin' at old ladies, 'eh. :P

@kyrees said:

yes, god can create a rock that he can't lift and lift it accordingly.

And pretty much this.

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Lol this question is as illogical as it is asinine.

But I suppose my opinion is yes, he could.

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Yes. It is kinda like when the Beyonder when he wanted to do drugs. At first the drugs wouldn't work on him because he is the Beyonder, so he made it work. In comparison, God could easily lift a rock, so he would make himself not lift the rock. And vice versa.

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#12  Edited By KingVenus

oops, religion is not my expertise

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Logic has left the building..

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If you want a serious answer,

http://www.gotquestions.org/God-rock-heavy-lift.html

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Maybe a tiny pebble, in the way of nothing, and that particular, tiny speck of rock, He cannot lift. Or, create such a rock, then make it vanish since He can't lift it.

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I hope there is an all powerful God out there ,things seem to perfect here on earth for there not to be some all powerful being not to be behind it!electricity,water perfect orbit ect.,So if God wanted to he could make 2+2=5 and you would be none the wiser,He can do anything.and some people would call you blasphemous for even asking such a question!

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#17  Edited By ChillxPill

@galactus1967: ..It's like Christian Questions 101.

The question itself makes no sense.

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#18  Edited By nefarious

Anything is possible.

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Is this being asked so people can direct "do you even lift ? " joke towards god ? 0_o

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It's just a silly conundrum.

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LOL funny question.

I don't think so. He could probably lift anything if He's omnipotent right?

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@kyrees said:

yes, god can create a rock that he can't lift and lift it accordingly.

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@noone301994: It is a funny question but the "point" of the question is to show that the word omnipotence is meaningless. If god can create a rock that he cannot not lift, then he is not omnipotent which is a contradiction.

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@noone301994: It is a funny question but the "point" of the question is to show that the word omnipotence is meaningless. If god can create a rock that he cannot not lift, then he is not omnipotent which is a contradiction.

If a being was ominpotent, they could then transcend the laws of logic as we know them.

Thus making this question inane.

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@mr_clockwork91 said:

@noone301994: It is a funny question but the "point" of the question is to show that the word omnipotence is meaningless. If god can create a rock that he cannot not lift, then he is not omnipotent which is a contradiction.

If a being was ominpotent, they could then transcend the laws of logic as we know them.

Thus making this question inane.

Jmarshmallow

Makes sense to me.

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@mr_clockwork91 said:

@noone301994: It is a funny question but the "point" of the question is to show that the word omnipotence is meaningless. If god can create a rock that he cannot not lift, then he is not omnipotent which is a contradiction.

If a being was ominpotent, they could then transcend the laws of logic as we know them.

Thus making this question inane.

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!! Any true omimpotent being is not bound by mere logic.

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@kyrees said:

yes, god can create a rock that he can't lift and lift it accordingly.

You are negating your first statement.

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@overlordarthas: He means he could create a rock he "shouldn't" be able to lift, but because he is all powerful still lift it.

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@overlordarthas: He means he could create a rock he "shouldn't" be able to lift, but because he is all powerful still lift it.

God is also a being of reason, remember that when he said that all those who sinned will die, by that statement, no one will be save. So he send Jesus as a work around to the rule. I do not think a shortcut like that will suffice.

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@overlordarthas: I don't agree with that I was just trying to explain what he meant by his statement, how have you been arthas been a while

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@overlordarthas: I don't agree with that I was just trying to explain what he meant by his statement, how have you been arthas been a while

Oh ok. ;p

Just got back from self-exile.

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@overlordarthas: Yeah I haven't been too busy on here myself, too busy in real life to function on here consistently, hows life for you and the philippines?

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@lukehero said:

@mr_clockwork91 said:

@noone301994: It is a funny question but the "point" of the question is to show that the word omnipotence is meaningless. If god can create a rock that he cannot not lift, then he is not omnipotent which is a contradiction.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!! Any true omimpotent being is not bound by mere logic.

False

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@overlordarthas: Yeah I haven't been too busy on here myself, too busy in real life to function on here consistently, hows life for you and the philippines?

Pretty good. I'm addicted to a mobile game as of late.

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#38  Edited By OverLordArthas
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@overlordarthas: Lol never heard of it, let me guess it has vikings... ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnarok_Online:_Valkyrie_Uprising

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@lukehero: There is no way with in reason that God can create a square circle it denies logic it cannot be done. Omnipotent doesn't mean bust the foundation this universe functions on......

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#45  Edited By kyrees

@overlordarthas said:

@kyrees said:

yes, god can create a rock that he can't lift and lift it accordingly.

You are negating your first statement.

that's the logic of the long winded answer of this question.

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@eisenfauste: Well I imagine being God he would simply change the definition of a Circle to encompass that of a square.

This... Omnipotent means he can do whatever he wants. Our entire ideals of logic, could be altered at his own whimsy. Up becomes down, left becomes right, white becomes black, squares become circles. All these things and more, things we are not even able to contrive would be possible for an Omnipotent being.

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#48  Edited By Outside_85

Immovable object vs unstoppable force.

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I reckon that Him creating a rock He couldn't life or some other action He couldn't perform would be Him putting a handicap on Himself that He could remove any time He wanted to.

I also find that video game analogies have helped me make sense of things.

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@lukehero: There is no way with in reason that God can create a square circle it denies logic it cannot be done. Omnipotent doesn't mean bust the foundation this universe functions on......

Yes it does...