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#1 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

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The area around the apartment of mass movie theater shooting suspect James Holmes in suburban Denver was evacuated Friday and police were trying to determine how to disarm booby traps made of what Aurora police said appeared to be "very sophisticated" explosives or flammable materials.

#2 Posted by Project_Worm (3405 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

#3 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

WTF?

#4 Edited by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Psychopaths tend to be very cunning.

#5 Posted by Lunacyde (19124 posts) - - Show Bio

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

#6 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

Really?
#7 Posted by Lunacyde (19124 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGoldenOne: Yes, it was on CNN. Although he was withdrawing from the school apparently for unknown reasons. Point was he was smart enough to get in.

#8 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

#9 Posted by Mercy_ (92698 posts) - - Show Bio

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

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#10 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

#11 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_ said:

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

That's what I've been thinking about.

#12 Posted by Mercy_ (92698 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

That as well. Something about it strikes me as very odd.

@Donnieman v5.1: There's something that doesn't add up. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, IDK, but it just strikes me as really off.

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#13 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_: No, I think you're right. Obviously he has a reason for his actions, considering the events that led up to that point. I just don't know.

#14 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_ said:

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

He has to have a reason for targeting The Dark Knight Rises. If he fired at the cops, they would fire back. He probably has a message.

#15 Edited by Vortex13 (12250 posts) - - Show Bio

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

#16 Posted by nickthedevil (12498 posts) - - Show Bio

Another 'under-appreciated' man trying to make a name for himself.

#17 Posted by FinnVarra (226 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

He didn't tell them. They put a camera on a big pole and looked through the window before they tried to go in. At least thats what I read.

#18 Posted by Shanana (53023 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_ said:

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

That as well. Something about it strikes me as very odd.

@Donnieman v5.1: There's something that doesn't add up. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, IDK, but it just strikes me as really off.

No, your not something's off

#19 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

Another 'under-appreciated' man trying to make a name for himself.

He probably has a reason he finds logical. I wish I could interview him.

#20 Posted by Vortex13 (12250 posts) - - Show Bio

Unfortunately when I type in dark knight shooting in google, I only get the Dark Knight Rises one but I could have sworn there was one at the Dark Knight one as well.

#21 Edited by nickthedevil (12498 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

@nickthedevil said:

Another 'under-appreciated' man trying to make a name for himself.

He probably has a reason he finds logical. I wish I could interview him.

Of course he does. Maybe a delusion of self-importance coupled with not being recognized...

#22 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8106 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_ said:

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Any reason why he told them it's booby trapped?

That as well. Something about it strikes me as very odd.

@Donnieman v5.1: There's something that doesn't add up. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, IDK, but it just strikes me as really off.

Maybe he wants to go to Jail, he knew that he'd get a longer stay a more image by making such a public display...The neuroscience worries me as well, I pray that this carnage is over but I don't believe he's through ;/

#23 Posted by Vortex13 (12250 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCheeseStabber: He's been caught.

#24 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8106 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vortex13: Im aware but what frightens me is how he gave up willingly along with the other things stated...

#25 Posted by Vortex13 (12250 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCheeseStabber: Do you mean you think he's killed others and will admit to it during questioning?

#26 Posted by Lunacyde (19124 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

#27 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8106 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vortex13: not necessarily I think-and I pray I'm wrong-that he's not done yet...

#28 Posted by No_Name_ (17403 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

Can you imagine if that dude became your doctor?

#29 Posted by Lunacyde (19124 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

Wait what does Rush have to do with it?

#30 Posted by Lunacyde (19124 posts) - - Show Bio

@Babs said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

Can you imagine if that dude became your doctor?

I'd prefer not to. Makes you really think about who are the people on the fringe of your life (Doctors, dentists, cashiers, etc)

#31 Posted by Vortex13 (12250 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCheeseStabber: In real life someone who ends up in a maximum security prison, which he undoubtedly will, don't really escape. Not sure what he can really do at this point. Except make a media circus with his comments and claims in the trial he will have.

#32 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8106 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vortex13: Like I said I pray I'm wrong but it just doesn't add up

#33 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lunacyde said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

Wait what does Rush have to do with it?

Simply put, he thinks Mitt Romney's Batman and Bane is some conspiracy to ruin his campaign. College/university students tend to be pretty vulnerable and gullible when it comes to politics.

#34 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

#35 Posted by Lunacyde (19124 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

Wait what does Rush have to do with it?

Simply put, he thinks Mitt Romney's Batman and Bane is some conspiracy to ruin his campaign. College/university students tend to be pretty vulnerable and gullible when it comes to politics.

WTF?

#36 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lunacyde said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

Wait what does Rush have to do with it?

Simply put, he thinks Mitt Romney's Batman and Bane is some conspiracy to ruin his campaign. College/university students tend to be pretty vulnerable and gullible when it comes to politics.

WTF?

The Batman and Bane part, or the college/university student part?

#37 Posted by Lunacyde (19124 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

To be legally considered insane a person must either not be capable of differentiating between right and wrong, completely unaware of the consequences of their actions, or so delusional that they don't even realize what they are actually doing.

Psychopath's are completely in control of their faculties, in fact they tend to be overly analytical cold, and calculating. They know exactly what they are doing and that it is wrong, but they don't care and don't feel any empathy for others.

#38 Posted by Vortex13 (12250 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

Very true, the mentally ill are usually highly non violent as well. Psychopaths are not non violent. Also psychopath is kind of a broad term. Given the information we have so far I'd say he may have a anti social personality disorder. That isn't a mental illness either it's more a psychological state of mind or disorder which is different seeing as most metal illnesses are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.

#39 Posted by Lunacyde (19124 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam: Batman and Bane part.

#40 Posted by GR2Blackout (2564 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this the maniac he thinks he's Bane that attacked the Dark Knight Rises premiere or whatever? Or a different maniac?

#41 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vortex13 said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

Very true, the mentally ill are usually highly non violent as well. Psychopaths are not non violent. Also psychopath is kind of a broad term. Given the information we have so far I'd say he may have a anti social personality disorder. That isn't a mental illness either it's more a psychological state of mind or disorder which is different seeing as most metal illnesses are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Mentally ill people can also be very violent, although, it's usually because they're frightened. It's more likely he's psychopathic. It's why he didn't kill himself or risk death by firing on the police. As I said before, he probably has a reason and a message. I really hope they televise an interview with him.

#42 Posted by Vortex13 (12250 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam: When they are violent though they're usually violent to themselves however. I have quite a bit of experience with mentally ill people.

#43 Edited by Project_Worm (3405 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

@Vortex13 said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Vortex13 said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Most criminals are sane. I honestly doubt he has any kind of mental illness. He obviously has issues and is a f##ked up scum bag, but as for clinically insane? I doubt it. The idea of most mass murderers and serial killers being insane is entirely false. Disturbed, cruel, sadistic? Yes. Insane? Not often.

Exactly there is a big different than being a psychopath and clinically insane. In fact they are very nearly opposites.

Yes and no. Psychopaths are usually more intelligent and mentally stable, though.

Very true, the mentally ill are usually highly non violent as well. Psychopaths are not non violent. Also psychopath is kind of a broad term. Given the information we have so far I'd say he may have a anti social personality disorder. That isn't a mental illness either it's more a psychological state of mind or disorder which is different seeing as most metal illnesses are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Mentally ill people can also be very violent, although, it's usually because they're frightened. It's more likely he's psychopathic. It's why he didn't kill himself or risk death by firing on the police. As I said before, he probably has a reason and a message. I really hope they televise an interview with him.

Technically speaking Insanity covers someone who is a psychopath. Psychopathy is simply a more specific type of insanity. A Psychopath is indeed insane. But an insane person isn't necessarily a psychopath.

#44 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@Project_Worm said:

@AweSam said:

Technically speaking Insanity covers someone who is a psychopath. Psychopathy is simply a more specific type of insanity. A Psychopath is indeed insane. But an insane person isn't necessarily a psychopath.

We're referring to people who are mentally unstable. Unstable to a point where they can't be a part of the public.

#45 Edited by Vortex13 (12250 posts) - - Show Bio

@Project_Worm: Insanity is a very broad term though. Legally speaking it means someone who doesn't know right from wrong, clinically speaking it's not actually used. But when someone says insane most peoples minds go to something like dissociative identity disorder, schizophrenia, bi-polar and stuff like that. If that's not the type of people you meant I apologize for my misconception.

#46 Posted by HowTerribleIsThat (349 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mercy_ said:

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

I'm guessing he was looking forward to hearing about the devastating affects that his traps would have on the police.
#47 Posted by utotheg38 (18883 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

lol because of The bane thing? XD

#48 Posted by Project_Worm (3405 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam: And I (who sort of started this little discussion) was referring to insanity...

@Vortex13: Completely understand. I was just trying to clarify what it is I meant.

#49 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

@utotheg38 said:

@AweSam said:

@Lunacyde said:

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

He was going for a doctorate in Neuroscience.

He had a future planned, that means he had a reason for the shooting. I think it could have something to do with Rush Limbaugh.

lol because of The bane thing? XD

Some people take things very seriously... VERY seriously.

@HowTerribleIsThat said:

@Mercy_ said:

What's crazy to me is that he didn't resist arrest. He had at least two guns on him and was in the parking lot when he was cornered by police. He didn't shoot them, he didn't shoot himself, he didn't attempt to get away. He didn't even resist.

I'm guessing he was looking forward to hearing about the devastating affects that his traps would have on the police.

Or he had something he was hiding and was hoping the traps would get rid of them.

#50 Posted by leejunfan83 (123 posts) - - Show Bio

@Project_Worm said:

Ah shit. Here we go. So the guy is not only insane he's smart too?

Smart people don't like sheep