#1 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
Best out of Harlem
VS
Best out of Brooklyn
who would win in a rap battle?
who would be more sucessful if they were out today?
#2 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Big L would win in a Rap Battle

I think Notorious BIG would be the more successful artist in terms of album sells since he was the big dawg on Bad Boy Records... Big L was supposed to be signing to Roc A Fella.. but if he did... how could he possibly outshine Jay Z or Kanye West ?
#3 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

BIG

#4 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"BIG"
Not in a Rap Battle
#5 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

easy he is better then them.

#6 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"easy he is better then them.
"
Who is better than who ?
#7 Posted by Vance Astro (91235 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"easy he is better then them.
"
Easy is one of the worst rappers from the West Coast..E-40 is better than him and he sucks.
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#8 Posted by Vance Astro (91235 posts) - - Show Bio

Big L Curbstomp

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#9 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Swagga Boy said:
"easy he is better then them.
"
Easy is one of the worst rappers from the West Coast..E-40 is better than him and he sucks."
lol I meant Big L is better then Jay-z and Kanye
#10 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Swagga Boy said:
"easy he is better then them.
"
Who is better than who ?"
Heck no. There are gusy in compton besides him that are better than Eazy.
#11 Posted by lionheart (1261 posts) - - Show Bio

Big L in arap battle definitely
popularity wise: biggie

#12 Posted by Vance Astro (91235 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Swagga Boy said:
"easy he is better then them.
"
Easy is one of the worst rappers from the West Coast..E-40 is better than him and he sucks."
lol I meant Big L is better then Jay-z and Kanye"
Oh...LOL.Ok.Yea way better.
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#13 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Swagga Boy said:
"easy he is better then them.
"
Easy is one of the worst rappers from the West Coast..E-40 is better than him and he sucks."
lol I meant Big L is better then Jay-z and Kanye"
  You Are Correct. Big L is better than Jay Z and Kayne but he would never outsell either of them...
#14 Posted by Trauma (5889 posts) - - Show Bio

BIG L by far his raps are so sick

#15 Posted by lionheart (1261 posts) - - Show Bio

alright now whta i was trying to say is that Big L might have been able to outsell Kanye but definitely not Jay Z

#16 Edited by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
lionheart said:
"alright now whta i was trying to say is that Big L might have been able to outsell Kanye but definitely not Jay Z"
I dont think so. Big L is a very skilled lyrical rapper who doesnt really make a lot of commerical hit songs. Jay Z makes HIT SONGS... that dude is gonna sell and sell hard.  Jay Z has 4 Triple Platinum albums and 3 Double Platinum album in the US. You see when it comes to record sales your lyrical skill doesnt mean everything.... I mean why does Lil Wayne sell ? Or P. Diddy ? Or Soulja Boy ? Or Rick Ross ? These guys arent great Rappers ( well IMO ) but they go Platinum cause they make hits
#17 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"lionheart said:
"alright now whta i was trying to say is that Big L might have been able to outsell Kanye but definitely not Jay Z"
I dont think so. Big L is a very skilled lyrical rapper who doesnt really make a lot of commerical hit songs. Kayne West makes HIT SONGS... that dude is gonna sell and sell hard. Kayne West has 2 Triple Platinum albums and 1 Double Platinum album in the US. You see when it comes to record sales your lyrical skill doesnt mean everything.... I mean why does Lil Wayne sell ? Or P. Diddy ? Or Soulja Boy ? Or Rick Ross ? These guys are great Rappers ( well IMO ) but they go Platinum cause they make hits"

you P.diddy  Lil wayne and Soulja boy are great rappers!?
#18 Posted by lionheart (1261 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah i know a little bit about music trust me but big l had the skill and that stuff, even though nobody really startedto notice him till after he died but any ways he could have done it in my opinion

#19 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"King Saturn said:
"lionheart said:
"alright now whta i was trying to say is that Big L might have been able to outsell Kanye but definitely not Jay Z"
I dont think so. Big L is a very skilled lyrical rapper who doesnt really make a lot of commerical hit songs. Kayne West makes HIT SONGS... that dude is gonna sell and sell hard. Kayne West has 2 Triple Platinum albums and 1 Double Platinum album in the US. You see when it comes to record sales your lyrical skill doesnt mean everything.... I mean why does Lil Wayne sell ? Or P. Diddy ? Or Soulja Boy ? Or Rick Ross ? These guys are great Rappers ( well IMO ) but they go Platinum cause they make hits"

you P.diddy  Lil wayne and Soulja boy are great rappers!?"
Nope. I was trying to say they werent

lol
#20 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
lionheart said:
"yeah i know a little bit about music trust me but big l had the skill and that stuff, even though nobody really startedto notice him till after he died but any ways he could have done it in my opinion"
I dont think he could have. I mean look at it like this then... Nas is a better lyricist than Jay Z and he hasnt outsold Jay Z either...
#21 Posted by lionheart (1261 posts) - - Show Bio

thats true. although we all know he should. good point

#22 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
lionheart said:
"thats true. although we all know he should. good point"
No Doubt
#23 Posted by lionheart (1261 posts) - - Show Bio

way to kill my arguement King Saturn

#24 Posted by Wildstar (1012 posts) - - Show Bio

Big was a moster freestyling so I don't know if I couls say Big L that easy. Popularity is most def Biggie. I was the dude. The only other New York rappers that were making money then were Wu Tang, LL, Naz, and Gravediggaz. Biggie was the one who was bringing hip hop back to the east when the west coast was running shyt. Big L was underground as hell so he wouldn't get enough air play to rival Biggie in terms of success. Freestyling it would be almost even. Biggie is the most quoted rapper in the game(no it's not 2pac) for a reason.  

#25 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
lionheart said:
"way to kill my arguement King Saturn"
Ha Ha Ha  !

But truthfully there are a lot of very skilled lyrical rappers who dont sell a whole lot of records... Lupe Fiasco, Cassidy, Jadakiss, Mos Def, Talib Kweli.... to name a few. Sure you can say that they dont have the Promotion backing them or they are not on a Major Label... but if Big L was out now... would he really any better chance than some of these other MC to go Platinum these days ? I dont know
#26 Posted by Wildstar (1012 posts) - - Show Bio

If they were both alive, Big L would be working for Biggie and Jay-Z. He would have been on their Commission record label. It was goning to be flooded with east coast artists so Big L would have been with them. They would have had a monster label. The Lox, Big Pun, Big L, Biggie, Jay-Z, Fabolous, Cassidy, etc etc.

#27 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

"Hollyhood in a slipnot, mama's boy chopped up in a ziplock"

#28 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Wildstar said:
"If they were both alive, Big L would be working for Biggie and Jay-Z. He would have been on their Commission record label. It was goning to be flooded with east coast artists so Big L would have been with them. They would have had a monster label. The Lox, Big Pun, Big L, Biggie, Jay-Z, Fabolous, Cassidy, etc etc."
I agree with you to some extent. I just dont think all those MCs you named will all be together on the Label. Maybe some of them but not all of them... cause these days guys go Independent cause some of the bigger label are jacking them for dollars
#29 Posted by Wildstar (1012 posts) - - Show Bio

Biggie already had tyhe plans for the Commission to drop when he died. It was gonna be him Jay-Z, The Lox, and DMX. Then he was killed and all heel broke loose. Puffy raped the Lox. Jay-Z was left by himself. None of the real BK MC's got on like M.O.P. Lil Kim went through her issues. I think any real MC would jump at the chance to work with Biggie. He was the best pure MC at the time. I say Pure because he very rarely wrote. Fabolous would have jumped  at the chance to work with him. Cassidy wouldn't have been in that bullshyt group he was on in Ruff Ryders. Big Pun might have stayed with Fat Joe, but Money talks, and at the time Joe's money was in the basement. Even his clothing line wasn't selling. Pun and Cuban Link would have jumped ship ASAP. Friendship is one thing, but business is another.

#30 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Wildstar said:
"Biggie already had tyhe plans for the Commission to drop when he died. It was gonna be him Jay-Z, The Lox, and DMX. Then he was killed and all heel broke loose. Puffy raped the Lox. Jay-Z was left by himself. None of the real BK MC's got on like M.O.P. Lil Kim went through her issues. I think any real MC would jump at the chance to work with Biggie. He was the best pure MC at the time. I say Pure because he very rarely wrote. Fabolous would have jumped  at the chance to work with him. Cassidy wouldn't have been in that bullshyt group he was on in Ruff Ryders. Big Pun might have stayed with Fat Joe, but Money talks, and at the time Joe's money was in the basement. Even his clothing line wasn't selling. Pun and Cuban Link would have jumped ship ASAP. Friendship is one thing, but business is another."
I dont know if it would have all worked out that way though. Cause there is no telling how successful other artists on the label would have actually been then. Remember when Big died everything changed... and a lot of those hot tracks that were produced for Hova would have probably gone to Big since he is still the head honcho
#31 Posted by Wildstar (1012 posts) - - Show Bio

True, but Biggie had a good heart. He would have let Jigga shine. The person I think would have had a hard time is MASE. Biggie would have shut that fake nigga down. lol

#32 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Wildstar said:
"True, but Biggie had a good heart. He would have let Jigga shine. The person I think would have had a hard time is MASE. Biggie would have shut that fake nigga down. lol"
True Dat. I wonder what would happen to Kanye West ? Would he actually be an artist on Biggie's label ? Or just a Producer ?
#33 Posted by Wildstar (1012 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he would have been one of Puffy's rape victims. lol

#34 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Wildstar said:
"I think he would have been one of Puffy's rape victims. lol"
Ha Ha Ha  ! 

What is Kayne doing with his new album ? I hope the whole album doesnt sound like that T-Pain Voice Machine sh!t
#35 Posted by Wildstar (1012 posts) - - Show Bio

After hearing that Love Lockdown crap, I'm not even gonna listen to it, lol that shyt was as gay as Gangstalicious. lol

#36 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
Wildstar said:
"After hearing that Love Lockdown crap, I'm not even gonna listen to it, lol that shyt was as gay as Gangstalicious. lol"
Ha Ha Ha  !

True Dat. I was totally disgusted with that joint
#37 Posted by lionheart (1261 posts) - - Show Bio
Wildstar said:
"After hearing that Love Lockdown crap, I'm not even gonna listen to it, lol that shyt was as gay as Gangstalicious. lol"

hah thats pretty damn funny but, i dont think kanye woull be on Biggies label at all
#38 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
lionheart said:
"Wildstar said:
"After hearing that Love Lockdown crap, I'm not even gonna listen to it, lol that shyt was as gay as Gangstalicious. lol"

hah thats pretty damn funny but, i dont think kanye woull be on Biggies label at all"
Agreed
#39 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
I think the Notorious movie is gonna have some people Gased... thinking BIG is the greatest of all time...