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#301  Edited By FukYouRenchamp

This was a mistake,

My aplogises.

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#302  Edited By Rouflex

Arrow is a pretty good show that marvel cant reproduce(Epicness).

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#303  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@pr0metheus said:

Why do you people keep calling it the SUPER SOLDIER SERUM.

THIS ISN'T MARVEL.

IT IS ACTUALLY HURTING ME INSIDE.

...because that is what Ivo called it...

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anyone seen this? mostly boring...except the last one

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#305  Edited By CF12793

Here are some of my predictions on what will happen on "Arrow" in the seasons to come:

  • The flashbacks on the Island will come to an end in season 4, as the show will have concluded all of what happened and would rather move forward.
  • Oliver will call himself "Green Arrow" in Season 4 aswell, and Starling City will look at him less as a bloodthirsty vigilante and more of a cult hero.
  • Roy Harper will begin training to become Oliver's apprentice in Season 3. He doesn't take well to the training at first, but Ollie believes in him and it gives him the confidence to continue his training.
  • Hal Jordan will be introduced as an old friend of Diggle's, and while Oliver and Hal dislike eachother at first, they quickly find that they have a lot in common.
  • Oliver's mother will die somehow. I think this is more wishful thinking then anything else, really.
  • The Suicide Squad will hunt Oliver down, consisting of Deadshot, Bronze Tiger, Rick Flag, Count Vertigo, and Captain Boomerang.
  • More references to Batman villains will be used. (Santa Prisca prison, Sionis industries, stuff like that)
  • Nightwing will appear on the show at some point in Season 4 or 5, but in an extremely brief cameo appearance.
  • The show ends with Ollie preparing to go out and patrol, but before he does, Felicity tells him that she has a "Mr. Wayne" on the phone, and that he'd like to offer Oliver a "position on his new team". Ollie smiles, and the show ends.
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@pr0metheus said:

Why do you people keep calling it the SUPER SOLDIER SERUM.

THIS ISN'T MARVEL.

IT IS ACTUALLY HURTING ME INSIDE.

...because that is what Ivo called it...

When? Super Soldier Serum is Marvel. If he called it that I apologize but i'm surprised Marvel allowed that.

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@cf12793: They could always introduce Batman as through Sarah.

Let's say Sarah takes Oliver to the old LoA base and finds it abandoned, with no other leads to go on, Sarah says:

"When I was training with Ra's he always kept talking about a former student that even surpassed him and everyone of his students, Someone that I think he was even afraid of"

"What was his name?"

"We never went by our real names"

"What was his fake name then?"

*Insert random language meaning "The Bat"*

They then try to find Batman who becomes aware someone is trying to finds them and contacts them first.

woo.

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#308  Edited By CF12793

@pr0metheus: Yeah that could work also.

I read a theory someone had posted (don't remember if it was on here or not) that they could also introduce references to the Bat family through the Huntress. The theory was that after she left in season 1 and went to Gotham and trained with the Bat family, and through the Huntress they could introduce Nightwing. But I like your theory of introducing references to Bats through the LoA.

I wonder if they'll ever make another Batman themed or atleast Bat themed TV show. I've never seen "Birds of Prey" except for short clips on youtube, but I wasn't impressed with what I saw. I guess they're going to do "Gotham PD" but that isn't centered on Batman and there's probably as much of a chance that Batman will be referenced on that show then he will be referenced on "Arrow".

Still, it's fun to come up with these theories. Makes the show all the more enjoyable to watch.

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#309  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@pr0metheus said:

@fallschirmjager said:

@pr0metheus said:

Why do you people keep calling it the SUPER SOLDIER SERUM.

THIS ISN'T MARVEL.

IT IS ACTUALLY HURTING ME INSIDE.

...because that is what Ivo called it...

When? Super Soldier Serum is Marvel. If he called it that I apologize but i'm surprised Marvel allowed that.

...when he talks about it? There's no way someone has a clip of the scene, but that's what he called it. He might have said "a serum to make super soldiers" or some shit, aka not SSS exactly, but I'm not typing out the former every time lol

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@fallschirmjager said:

@pr0metheus said:

Why do you people keep calling it the SUPER SOLDIER SERUM.

THIS ISN'T MARVEL.

IT IS ACTUALLY HURTING ME INSIDE.

...because that is what Ivo called it...

When? Super Soldier Serum is Marvel. If he called it that I apologize but i'm surprised Marvel allowed that.

its not like marvel is the only enity who used that super soilder serum before. it was actually believed to be a real thing in real life

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#311 k4tzm4n  Moderator

Deadshot was badass this ep

I think we watched different episodes :P

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@pr0metheus said:

@fallschirmjager said:

@pr0metheus said:

Why do you people keep calling it the SUPER SOLDIER SERUM.

THIS ISN'T MARVEL.

IT IS ACTUALLY HURTING ME INSIDE.

...because that is what Ivo called it...

When? Super Soldier Serum is Marvel. If he called it that I apologize but i'm surprised Marvel allowed that.

its not like marvel is the only enity who used that super soilder serum before. it was actually believed to be a real thing in real life

Yes but i'm sure they have copyrighted the term "Super Soldier Serum" in media.

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#313  Edited By TazzMission

@tazzmission said:

@pr0metheus said:

@fallschirmjager said:

@pr0metheus said:

Why do you people keep calling it the SUPER SOLDIER SERUM.

THIS ISN'T MARVEL.

IT IS ACTUALLY HURTING ME INSIDE.

...because that is what Ivo called it...

When? Super Soldier Serum is Marvel. If he called it that I apologize but i'm surprised Marvel allowed that.

its not like marvel is the only enity who used that super soilder serum before. it was actually believed to be a real thing in real life

Yes but i'm sure they have copyrighted the term "Super Soldier Serum" in media.

eh i dont think so.

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#314  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@pr0metheus: I just rewatched the episode btw. this is the scene, verbatim (starts at 7:22)

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Ivo: My name's Ivo. What's your name?

Ollie: ...Tommy

Ivo: So...how did you come to be on this island Tommy? I assume it wasn't by choice?

Ollie: My uh...boat was ship wrecked here...and I was the only survivor

Ivo: Well I'm sorry to hear that. Did you explore the Island much?

Ollie: Some of it...why?

Ivo: You didn't happen to run across an Japanese Imeperial Navy Submarine did you? ...During World War 2 every country was trying to develop the ultimate weapon. The United States had the Manhattan Project, of course the Nazi's had Das Uranverein and the Japanese, well...Mirakuru.

Sarah: Stem cells, genetic therapy...decades ahead of their time.

Ivo: Every war...advances the cause of science and the Japanese...they had developed a serum that caused increase strength, rapid cell regeneration...they called it Mirakuru...

Sarah: Miracle

Ivo: Thought they could create an army of super soldiers. They were transporting their only supply via Submarine when that sub came under heavy fire by the allied forces and it ran a ground in this chain of islands. Thanks to you, we now know its this island.

Olie: You killed my friends...

Ivo: Which means its up to you, to help us find that sub

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So I guess we took libraries calling it SSS. But the words Serum and SS were both used by Ivo.

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@pr0metheus: I just rewatched the episode btw. this is the scene, verbatim (starts at 7:22)

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Ivo: My name's Ivo. What's your name?

Ollie: ...Tommy

Ivo: So...how did you come to be on this island Tommy? I assume it wasn't by choice?

Ollie: My uh...boat was ship wrecked here...and I was the only survivor

Ivo: Well I'm sorry to hear that. Did you explore the Island much?

Ollie: Some of it...why?

Ivo: You didn't happen to run across an Japanese Imeperial Navy Submarine did you? ...During World War 2 every country was trying to develop the ultimate weapon. The United States had the Manhattan Project, of course the Nazi's had Das Uranverein and the Japanese, well...Mirakuru.

Sarah: Stem cells, genetic therapy...decades ahead of their time.

Ivo: Every war...advances the cause of science and the Japanese...they had developed a serum that caused increase strength, rapid cell regeneration...they called it Mirakuru...

Sarah: Miracle

Ivo: Thought they could create an army of super soldiers. They were transporting their only supply via Submarine when that sub came under heavy fire by the allied forces and it ran a ground in this chain of islands. Thanks to you, we now know its this island.

Olie: You killed my friends...

Ivo: Which means its up to you, to help us find that sub

--------------------------

So I guess we took libraries calling it SSS. But the words Serum and SS were both used by Ivo.

Please accept my apologies.

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#316  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@pr0metheus: its all good dude lol.

We were both partially right.

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#317  Edited By deathstroke19

@fallschirmjager: they are making vertigo so much like ledger joker in this episode it is ridiculous. Ts cool but ridiculous.

Edit: Did you see slades face? It looks like his mask so maybe they wont give it to him but idk for sure.

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@fallschirmjager: they are making vertigo so much like ledger joker in this episode it is ridiculous. Ts cool but ridiculous.

Edit: Did you see slades face? It looks like his mask so maybe they wont give it to him but idk for sure.

I don't think. Joker didn't have any motivation except to create Chaos. Vertigo is driven by his "art". They're both crazy, but they're not motivated by the same things.

And yes, I did. His face was burned and Shado put some weird stuff on it to heal. That's its only purpose for now, imo

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Pretty awesome episode so far.

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@fallschirmjager: i was taking more about the scene with him video taping the lawyer. It seemed eerily familiar to the jokers home made video.

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@wolverine08: where do you live/ what time zone do you live in?

Also the particle generator was complete.

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#322  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@deathstroke19 said:

@fallschirmjager: i was taking more about the scene with him video taping the lawyer. It seemed eerily familiar to the jokers home made video.

Ah. Well, I guess I see that. Although Vertigo was clearly justifying his actions - according to his own sense of righteousness - because he's "taking the pain away". Sort of an Angel of Death type figure.

Joker was just batshit crazy and black mailing batman and killing people :P

Side note - even though it isn't the first time they shown it I love the channel "News 52" :D

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Side note, even though every show advertises products (and Bose Headphones are awesome so its all good) anyone else think its weird that Roy, a guy who lives in a trailer can afford $100 headphones?

:D

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#326  Edited By Wolverine008

I'm feeling that pink dress Felicity is wearing *Perverted smile*

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#328  Edited By deathstroke19

Wow vertigo was shot in the chest 3 times... Again

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Wow vertigo was shot in the chest 3 times... Again

yeah that was pretty sweet.

but as any comic fan knows, characters can always come back to life :P

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@fallschirmjager: lol yeah. Who do you think vertigo meant when he said a man of means hired him to do this? Possibly Merlyn? Or Ras? Or Ivo?

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@fallschirmjager: lol yeah. Who do you think vertigo meant when he said a man of means hired him to do this? Possibly Merlyn? Or Ras? Or Ivo?

Any of those. Could also be Brother Blood. Or possibly even someone we haven't met yet.

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Damn, they're putting Ollie in hard spots.

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#333  Edited By deathstroke19

@fallschirmjager: it was blood. and THEIR BRINGING SLADE TO THE SUPER SOLDIER SERUM! Plus it looks like blood got his hands on some of the sss. MALCOLM IS BACK OMG OMG OMG OMG AHHHHHH I PEED MY PANTS JUST NOW AHHHHH MY FAV IS BACK OMG OMG OMG

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Thea is MALCOLMS DAUGHTER! FLASH IS IN NEXT EPISODE HOLY CRAP

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#335  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@deathstroke19 said:

@fallschirmjager: it was blood. and THEIR BRINGING SLADE TO THE SUPER SOLDIER SERUM! Plus it looks like blood got his hands on some of the sss. MALCOLM IS BACK OMG OMG OMG OMG AHHHHHH I PEED MY PANTS JUST NOW AHHHHH MY FAV IS BACK OMG OMG OMG

...my thoughts exactly

although the whole "Thea is his daughter" was a little uunnecessary

Barry Allen next episode!

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@fallschirmjager: lol. I am SUPER excited for this development with Malcolm! I was about to post my last comment when the blood scene finished but then Malcolm came on and i was like WHAT?!?! Lol

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@fallschirmjager: lol. I am SUPER excited for this development with Malcolm! I was about to post my last comment when the blood scene finished but then Malcolm came on and i was like WHAT?!?! Lol

yeah Malcolm pretty much stole the episode in that one scene.

Don't really like Blood's mask/voice. Too much like Scarecrow.

Really interested to see where they're going with those guys in the basement bleeding from the eyes though.

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@fallschirmjager: yes at least to me he did. And yeah i don't care for bloods costume at all. And yes it is and i think that when the one guy said stronger that meant he was enhanced and that maybe blood got his hands on some of that super soldier serum.

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just finished watching it and holy shit...................

thea is malcomes daughter and lazurus pit?

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#340  Edited By TheFirstLantern

I. CANT.EVEN.

Seriously. It sounds like Grundy (Cyrus) dudes/dudettes. Sladeeee. So much Win.

EDIT: Brother Blood is making an attempt at an army, Ollie can't take that on his own. Deathstroke, Dark Archer and Suicide Squad Team Up? LOL probably not but I can dream.

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#341  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@fallschirmjager: @deathstroke19:

Slade getting the soldier serum is awesome. cant wait to see what happens. Ivo is becoming The Governor. The way Arrow handled Vertigo was amazing. I was like "TAKE THE DAMN SHOT", then he puts the bow down then superspeeds 3 fricken arrows into his chest! "HELL YEAH!"I like Vertigo, but i want him to get dizzyness powers stuff. I loved ALL the Malcon reveals! And Falsh is coming!

@wolverine08 said:

I'm feeling that pink dress Felicity is wearing *Perverted smile*

Vertigo was also feeling it. hehehe

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#342  Edited By TazzMission

@thefirstlantern said:

I. CANT.EVEN.

Seriously. It sounds like Grundy (Cyrus) dudes/dudettes. Sladeeee. So much Win.

EDIT: Brother Blood is making an attempt at an army, Ollie can't take that on his own. Deathstroke, Dark Archer and Suicide Squad Team Up? LOL probably not but I can dream.

i wonder if sara ever met malcom when they trained in the leauge........ i have a feeling she may be back sooner than later. also im wondering if ollie is now going to bring in roy as red arrow and thea as speedy since roy is teaching her to fight

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#343  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@thefirstlantern said:

I. CANT.EVEN.

Seriously. It sounds like Grundy (Cyrus) dudes/dudettes. Sladeeee. So much Win.

EDIT: Brother Blood is making an attempt at an army, Ollie can't take that on his own. Deathstroke, Dark Archer and Suicide Squad Team Up? LOL probably not but I can dream.

i wonder if sara ever met malcom when they trained in the leauge........ i have a feeling she may be back sooner than later. also im wondering if ollie is now going to bring in roy as red arrow and thea as speedy since roy is teaching her to fight

only part of this episode i dint like, those baby punches

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@tazzmission said:

@thefirstlantern said:

I. CANT.EVEN.

Seriously. It sounds like Grundy (Cyrus) dudes/dudettes. Sladeeee. So much Win.

EDIT: Brother Blood is making an attempt at an army, Ollie can't take that on his own. Deathstroke, Dark Archer and Suicide Squad Team Up? LOL probably not but I can dream.

i wonder if sara ever met malcom when they trained in the leauge........ i have a feeling she may be back sooner than later. also im wondering if ollie is now going to bring in roy as red arrow and thea as speedy since roy is teaching her to fight

only part of this episode i dint like, those baby punches

I didnt take it as teaching her how to fight just as letting her get her frustrations out.

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@tazzmission said:

@thefirstlantern said:

I. CANT.EVEN.

Seriously. It sounds like Grundy (Cyrus) dudes/dudettes. Sladeeee. So much Win.

EDIT: Brother Blood is making an attempt at an army, Ollie can't take that on his own. Deathstroke, Dark Archer and Suicide Squad Team Up? LOL probably not but I can dream.

i wonder if sara ever met malcom when they trained in the leauge........ i have a feeling she may be back sooner than later. also im wondering if ollie is now going to bring in roy as red arrow and thea as speedy since roy is teaching her to fight

only part of this episode i dint like, those baby punches

i liked that whole thing with roy and thea. it does tease the possibly that red arrow and speedy will be 2 diffrent charachters instead of roy just being both.

her being malcoms daughter is interesting and i know i havent read green arrow but i do my research but to me at least this sounds like a plot device and really a way to bring malcom back. i say lets see what happens before everyone freaks out

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according to ign the soilder serum is Miraclo serum and the theory is its in there because dc wants a hourman tv show

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#348  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@mitran said:

That said, DAYUM. One arrow, two arrow, three arrow, out the window just to be sure. The only other thing he could have done was dropped a desk on Vertigo afterward just to be absolutely positive.

I would of loved that if he did.

Thea once made a pass at Tommy. Gross. Not Star Wars gross, but gross.

Yeah.. Remember in the first episode when Tommy tells Ollie the Theas getting hot.....

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@fallschirmjager: @deathstroke19:

@wolverine08 said:

I'm feeling that pink dress Felicity is wearing *Perverted smile*

Vertigo was also feeling it. hehehe

After last episode, I was feeling the distinct lack of Summer Glau. But yeah.

meh...

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anyone got the trailer for next week? i didnt watch the show on tv i caught it online