#1 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

I was going to wait to post this until after the episode aired, but I couldn't wait.

Especially because the News on Arrow just name-dropped Central City, bahahahah.

So, discuss!

#2 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

bahahaha. loved the ending.

well its over now.

tell me I wasn't the only one who watched it?

#3 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

ARGH! I missed it! I'll catch it tomorrow and then I'll come back!

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#4 Posted by NightHawk89 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

Watched it. Loved it. Next Wednesday seems soooo far away. :/

#5 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Be sure you do, it was really good!

@nighthawk89: Same! I thought it covered all the bases and hit home very well. Flashbacks, current story, etc!

Loved that they aren't waiting to introduce more characters either, with the Black Canary cameo at the end too!

#6 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Can't wait to check it out! I LOVED the first season, personally my favourite show on tv right now alongside Supernatural! :D

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#7 Edited by Deathstroke19 (3799 posts) - - Show Bio

WHAT ITS ALREADY BACK!?! I cant believe i missed it! That's honestly my second fav show next to teen titans. Did anything more happen with Malcolm cause i thought the dark archer representation was awesome and i didn't know if they were gonna lead it back to Ras al Ghul cause when tommy asked where he learned those moves Malcolm said from a very powerful man. And I'm the comics hes part of the league of assassins so it makes sense.

#8 Posted by lilben42 (2530 posts) - - Show Bio

It was really good. The writing really stepped up.

#9 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: I think they got a bigger budget too, because the stunts and action looked great. As did the CGI.

@deathstroke19 said:

WHAT ITS ALREADY BACK!?! I cant believe i missed it! That's honestly my second fav show next to teen titans. Did anything more happen with Malcolm cause i thought the dark archer representation was awesome and i didn't know if they were gonna lead it back to Ras al Ghul cause when tommy asked where he learned those moves Malcolm said from a very powerful man. And I'm the comics hes part of the league of assassins so it makes sense.

It premeired tonight. Every Wednesday at 8pm EST.

Malcolm is only briefly mentioned, but they didn't say if he was alive or dead. Tommy is confirmed to be dead.

#10 Edited by Deathstroke19 (3799 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmph. He better be alive or they better expand on him or bring in another villian to live up to him

#11 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathstroke19: Well. You know how comics go. No one is ever really dead. lol

#12 Posted by Deathstroke19 (3799 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Lol... Seriously though he better not be cause he was awesome.

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#14 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathstroke19: Agreed. Although I'm pretty excited to see Bronze Tiger this year too.

#15 Posted by Deathstroke19 (3799 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yea idk he was gonna be on

#16 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6101 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty good. I caught the first season on a Xbox app but I'll be tuning in regularly for this season.

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#17 Posted by TheFirstLantern (1505 posts) - - Show Bio

I barely realized that Bethany Snow reports the news on Channel 52 like in the comics. ha. Good episode.

#18 Edited by DeadPoker (354 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathstroke19: On the topic of Malcom, I do have my hopes high that connections between him and the League of Assassins will somehow be made. He was a great villain in the first season.

Oliver's new upgraded bow is my favorite part: The scene when he ascended into the air using the arrow-line as a grapple. Pretty soon we'll be seeing various trick arrows :)

#19 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokergeist: He has used a couple of them. I know he has his recording device arrows, hacking arrows, grappling arrows and regular arrows.

I'm not sure if he's used explosive arrows or flash bang arrows yet though.

and as much fun as it is...we will never see a punching glove arrow lol.

#20 Posted by DeadPoker (354 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Right, that's what I meant. Also since he is starting a kind of "no-kill" policy, trick arrows fit his new character nicely. Stuff like flashbang arrows, smoke arrows, freeze arrows, electric arrows, etc. (It'd be amazing if he'd use a punching glove arrow just once)

#21 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

If you guys want to listen to a pretty good video blog about the episode, check this out.

John Campea from AMC Movie talk (its an amazing channel if you don't know it).

#22 Edited by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokergeist: He has used a couple of them. I know he has his recording device arrows, hacking arrows, grappling arrows and regular arrows.

I'm not sure if he's used explosive arrows or flash bang arrows yet though.

and as much fun as it is...we will never see a punching glove arrow lol.

Don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure he's used an explosive arrow and he's used flashbang arrows on a few occassions. Flashbang arrow was used when he assaulted Cyrus Vanch's compound to take out the two snipers.

Explosive arrow(or something similar to it) was used when he attacked the underground casino that Felicity was sent to undercover(her plan) and she was being held hostage by the owner. Oliver shot an arrow by his head, the guy claiming that he heard Ollie never missed and Ollie responded with "I don't...". It's shown that he hit a bullseye in a dartboard beyond the owner and Felicity, an minor explosion goes off, knocking them both down.

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#23 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Hmm. You may be right. But I can't say I remember well enough to confirm/deny

#24 Posted by Saint_Wildcard (10112 posts) - - Show Bio

Loved the first season. I hope we get to see Superman or hear of him sometime in the future but I digress. Im really exited to see Speedy become more active and Im interested on how he is going to enter the Arrow Club.

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#25 Posted by Black_Arrow (2900 posts) - - Show Bio

I really hope that his new name is green arrow but i am sure that they will use Arrow

#26 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (5515 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: He used a Flashbang Arrow against Malcolm during their last battle.

#27 Edited by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Hmm. You may be right. But I can't say I remember well enough to confirm/deny

Episode 21(The Undertaking) for explosive arrow. Episode 13(Betrayal) for flashbang.

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#28 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Edited by RogueShadow (10305 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm continuously amazed at how well handled this show is.

#30 Posted by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

This show can be kind of corny sometimes, but its good none the less. Enough to keep my interest.

I like episodes like the season 2 premiere, it focuses more on stuff comic fans want to see: action and story. I imagine because its on the CW it is forced to have all that pretty, white people romance, drama nonsense going on.

#31 Posted by War Killer (20125 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved season one and season two is off to a great start. I was glad to see how all of the characters have grown and further develop after everything that happened last season. Seeing Ollie's character change from a vigilante on his own personal crusade and becoming a hero his city can rally behind is a great progression for the character. I also loved his reason for why "finding another way" when it comes to killing, and his reason for not killing anymore really shows how much of an impact last season had on him and how much he has changed. This season is looking to be great! ^_^

#32 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

That was a fantastic start to the season! Loved the reintroduction of a family friend, Ollie's confliction with re-donning the hood and the oh so brilliant tease at the end! NEXT WEDNESDAY MUST COME FASTER!

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#33 Posted by Deathstroke19 (3799 posts) - - Show Bio
#34 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Right! It was a fantastic premiere! Did you catch the Central City / Flash easter egg too?:)

@emequious_swerve said:

This show can be kind of corny sometimes, but its good none the less. Enough to keep my interest.

I like episodes like the season 2 premiere, it focuses more on stuff comic fans want to see: action and story. I imagine because its on the CW it is forced to have all that pretty, white people romance, drama nonsense going on.

For sure dude. The CW's target audience is pretty much teens-young adults...so there is inevitably going to be some drama/romance going on lol.

#35 Posted by DeadPoker (354 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Laurel gonna turn into Black Canary or what? (also who was that mysterious savior in the Roy Harper scene?)

#36 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio

Smoking Mirrors

#37 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Laurel gonna turn into Black Canary or what? (also who was that mysterious savior in the Roy Harper scene?)

I'm going to answer you in spoilers. Decide if you want to know or not.

The savior at the end of the scene with Roy was Black Canary. Earlier this summer the writers on the show confirmed that Laurel's dead sister Sarah, is not dead and will be Black Canary.

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#39 Posted by DeadPoker (354 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: I guess I don't want to know. But how do you? Have you seen the entire Season 2?

#40 Edited by Pr0metheus (5086 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokergeist said:

Is Laurel gonna turn into Black Canary or what? (also who was that mysterious savior in the Roy Harper scene?)

I'm going to answer you in spoilers. Decide if you want to know or not.

The savior at the end of the scene with Roy was Black Canary. Earlier this summer the writers on the show confirmed that Laurel's dead sister Sarah, is not dead and will be Black Canary.

It kinda makes me mad cause that is a big change, i mean it was so big i had to use bold to get my point across.

#41 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@pr0metheus: Yeah. But we'll see how it plays out.

@fallschirmjager: WHAT!? No! I must've missed it! :(

Near the beginning of the episode when Ollie meets Thea in Verdant Club, the news is on in the background talking about Central City =)

@fallschirmjager: I guess I don't want to know. But how do you? Have you seen the entire Season 2?

The writers said so during the summer.

#42 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@pr0metheus: Yeah. But we'll see how it plays out.

@deranged_midget said:

@fallschirmjager: WHAT!? No! I must've missed it! :(

Near the beginning of the episode when Ollie meets Thea in Verdant Club, the news is on in the background talking about Central City =)

@pokergeist said:

@fallschirmjager: I guess I don't want to know. But how do you? Have you seen the entire Season 2?

The writers said so during the summer.

I have no idea what you're referring to in regards to Pokergeist but I don't think writers would give away plot points away just like that :P

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#43 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: ...I can't link you the article I'm referring to without giving away spoilers...so let's just drop the topic lol.

#44 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: It's all good!

In regards to the next episode and this episode's cliffhanger:

You think that Ollie will start calling himself Green Arrow and perhaps he'll change up/upgrade his costume?

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#45 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: My thoughts

I don't know if he'll actually call HIMSELF Green Arrow...he'll probably have Felicity go crazy on the internet and get the media to start calling him that. I think they have to be careful with name dropping a little bit. I don't need to hear Green Arrow every episode, I think it would get weird. I mean look at modern movies...Heroes rarely get called by their hero name more than one or two times because its just unnecessarily

Costume maybe. I think he should. Personally, I'd let to see him wear some kind of mask instead of just dark-green paint on his eyes. I know they probably don't want to copy Smallville who used super-techno shades...but it really is a cool gadget. Night vision, heat vision, etc.

And even if the uniform's appearance doesn't change, I think it would be cool if the suit got an upgrade. Perhaps better armoring, or whatever.

#46 Edited by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Agreed:

I think the suit is functional as it is but he really needs to cover up his face more because it restricts his encounters with any other heroes or possible allies down the line if he decides to "hero" up. A smaller face mask, possibly similar to Nightwing where the lenses can utilize heat vision, night vision, etc would work. I think Ollie sported a more simplistic look because he never expected to make friends as "The Hood" nor did he make a point to stick around (hehe).

His overall suit is fine I think. Allows him to utilize his agility, speed and free-running more than an armoured look would.

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#47 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16481 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Good points.

Maybe, because he doesn't want to be called The Hood anymore, he will pull the hood down and sport on a small face mask. :o

#48 Posted by RogueShadow (10305 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know, I know I'm in love with Emily Bett Richards. I'm going to go on the X factor, become famous and marry her.

#49 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21616 posts) - - Show Bio

just watched it, was awesome. I want to see more slade

#50 Posted by DeadPoker (354 posts) - - Show Bio

@rogueshadow: For some reason the nerdy glasses make her 2x hotter.