Arrange the Hst protagonists in a gauntlet

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If you were to make a gauntlet of 31 freaking rounds, How will you arrange these forms?

(Tell me if I missed someone)

Monkey D. Luffy:

1. Pretime skip standard luffy, all feats.

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2. Pre-time skip luffy, with gears.

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3. Post time skip standard luffy.

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4. Post time skip luffy with gears.

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5. Current luffy (dressrosa arc)

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6. Nightmare luffy: (Shadows same as moria fight)

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And...

7. A hypothetical Pirate king luffy, EOS.

Uzumaki naruto:

1. Pre-time skip standard naruto. (All feats)

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2. Post time-skip standard naruto. All feats:

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3. KN0 naruto (haku/orochimaru/neji/sasuke)

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4. KN1 naruto (sasuke)

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5. KN3 naruto (orochimaru)

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6. KN4 naruto (orochimaru)

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7. KN6 naruto (pein)

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8. KN8 naruto (pein)

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9. Sage naruto, All feats.

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10. Kurama cloak naruto. (KCM)

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11. Bijju mode naruto (BM)

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Sorry, couldn't resist choose between images. Damn you deviantart.

11. Sage-kyubi naruto, or current naruto (shinobi war)

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And...

12. A hypothetical sage of six paths naruto, EOS.

Kurosaki Ichigo:

1. Agent Kurosaki ichigo- all feats till renji-byakuya beat him.

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2. Shikai ichigo-All feats pre-time skip

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3. Bankai ichigo- all feats pre-time skip.

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4. Vizard ichigo/ Shirosaki- All feats.

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5. Vasto lorde ichigo/full hollow/ super hollow ichigo.

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6. power ranger Complete full bring ichigo:

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7. Post time-skip shikai ichigo.

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8. Post time-skip bankai ichigo.

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9. Current shikai ichigo (thousand year war arc, clearer, dual blade one)

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10. Current bankai ichigo (thousand year war arc)

11. Dangai ichigo.

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And..

12. Hypothetical Spirit king ichigo.

Rules:

1. All feats from manga and anime, except filler arcs/movies/fanfics.

2. The characters stay in the given form, luffy doesn't get strained from gear 2, no chibi-form for gear 3, ichigo doesn't get strained from using mask, naruto doesn't turn into a frog from sage energy and so on.

3. They're allowed to use all their techniques, which they have, or can perform in the given form.

Restriction: Dangai ichigo can only use getsuga tenshou. He Cannot use mugetsu.

4. Weird haxes, though they don't possess a lot of them, are banned.

Naruto cannot turn them into frogs/ use killer instinct.

Luffy cannot use conquerors haki.

Ichigo does not have shinigami advantages, like no seeing him without spirit pressure, or reiatsu crush, and so on. He's a regular character here.

5. You can use reasonable scaling, or give personal opinion, but within limits, of course.

I suppose that covers most of the things.

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HOLY SH*T....

i mean... HST

I'll be back after school...

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#5  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@cooldes: Maybe? With all the 'naruto the next so6p' hype flying around, I don't see why not.. lest's all dream :)

And he does seem to pull the chakra from obito in this chapter..

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@princearagorn1: i should tell you, i can do alot of this, but i stopped bleach after aizen, and i'm nowhere near being close to caught up on naruto... like seriously, i've never even seen KCM or Bijiuu mode...

I can do all the one piece stuff though :)

So i'll just do what i can ok?

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@princearagorn1:

wow, i have to think about that but my first thought is about the speed difference. After Bleach 3. are Naruto and Luffy able to handle Ichigos speed? I think this is the point where overall Ichigo will win the majority.

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@ratava: They do have forms with good speed, too.. luffy has precog, naruto has limited precog and shadow clones..

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#11  Edited By StrictlyAnime

Holy sh*t this is going to be awesome...I'm pretty sure that power wise Naruto is the strongest, but Ichigo has that speed

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@ratava: They do have forms with good speed, too.. luffy has precog, naruto has limited precog and shadow clones..

true - but would precog really help luffy against a much faster opponent? he still has to react to what he is seeing. Naruto precog? did i miss something ^^ the shadow clones can come in handy but i doubt that later versions eg VL Ichigo would get hit by anything.

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@princearagorn1:

I stop washing bleach when Aizen saga ended and only watch one piece (anime) since is the one I like more so I do not wasn’t any spoiler so I don’t know if I should participated in this :P

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@ratava said:

@princearagorn1 said:

@ratava: They do have forms with good speed, too.. luffy has precog, naruto has limited precog and shadow clones..

true - but would precog really help luffy against a much faster opponent? he still has to react to what he is seeing. Naruto precog? did i miss something ^^ the shadow clones can come in handy but i doubt that later versions eg VL Ichigo would get hit by anything.

Naruto, in sage mode, gets an enhanced sense of danger: That's why he chose sage mode over kcm against raikage.

So arrange them as you think they should appear on a gauntlet..

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@princearagorn1:

I stop washing bleach when Aizen saga ended and only watch one piece (anime) since is the one I like more so I do not wasn’t any spoiler so I don’t know if I should participated in this :P

I see..

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#16  Edited By Cjdavis103

1. Pre timetkip naruto

2. Kno naruto

3. Agent Ichigo

4. Kn3 NAruto

5. Pretime luffy no gears

6. Fullbring Ichigo

7. Kn4 naruto

8. Zagentstu Ichigo

9. Luffy whith gears

10. Sage naruto

11. post TS Luffy no gears ( dose the no gears include haki?)

12. Banki Ichigo (maybe depending on speed blits rules)

13. Kn6 naruto

14. Nightmarge Luffy

15. Kn7 naruto

16. post time skip luffy whith gears /same as current

17. kuma clock Naruto

18. Visardo Ichigo

19. Visardlord Ichigio

20. Biju Naruto

21. Biju sage Naruto

22. Dangi Ichigo

The hypotheticals I have no feats for but if I were pushed I would say they go like this Sprit king>SO6P>Prite king

The post time skip Ichigo dose not have enough feats to judge

And the new ichigo has not even fought once all we know is that he is really fast

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@princearagorn1: Will work on this later, but only want to appoin that luffy's EOS is quite easy to predict(a bit higher than Prime WB), whyle Ichigo-spirit king is nigh-impossible.

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@pierpat: Of course.. I just added the hypothetical ones for the lulz..

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#19  Edited By Pierpat

@pierpat: Of course.. I just added the hypothetical ones for the lulz..

Is multiversal+ ok?

LoL

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@cooldes: without mugetsu? i dont see how dangai is stronger than sage bijuu naruto

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@cooldes: without mugetsu? i dont see how dangai is stronger than sage bijuu naruto

wouldn't his getsuga be much, much stronger than his average swing?

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@cjdavis103: i know hes much faster, but im talking about destructive capacity

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@princearagorn1: yeah but i dont think the getsuga compares to the tailed beast bomb

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@strictlyanime: why not? Getsuga is a highly compressed attack:

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That's why ichigo's huge attacks, like the one against menos grande, or the one on sogyoku cliff, get compressed. Bankai is at least five-ten times stronger than shikai according to yourichi, and yet it's compressed much smaller..

Think how strong a getsuga is compared to a regular swing.

Now compare that to dangai ichigo's mountain+ swing..

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This is kind of tough dude.

Luffy is the fastest dude with his gears. Naruto is the most destructive. Ichigo is in between (*generally speaking, calm down*)

I'd have to think about it. And I probably can't rank them in their current forms, since I stopped keeping up with them a few years ago.

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#29  Edited By StrictlyAnime

@princearagorn1:

i cant post scans since im on my phone, but the tailed beast bomb was like multi mountain level, almost island

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#31  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@strictlyanime: I know.. looking for this one, right?

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but if ichigo's regular slashes can vaporize mountains by shockwaves, I don't see why he won't he able to replicate this with a full fledged getsuga.. He also slapped a time-space warping kido away.. and tanked fragor, massively multimountain with just an arm. (We don't even know if he actually hurt his arm, or it was aizen yelling nonsense)

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Note that the ichigo tanked it, this is the resulting damage..

He also one shotted four of them at once (ultrafragor) when he got serious.

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@princearagorn1: hm, fair point, i never took into consideration what a regular getsuga would be like in dangai, mainly because he never did it.

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i also consider Vasto Lorde ichio just under final getsuga ichigo.

He Caught this ^ with his bare hands(that building had it's own believable sky!!). And then proceeded to out-do it with a head cero!! A complete monster.

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Final getsuga ichigo also broke this^ with his bare hands(kido so strong it bends time and space!!). And he caugh Aizen's Multimountain ++ sword slash with bare hand.

HE survived aizen's Fragor, and broke his SixFragor!! (i'll post a fragor gif if you want to remember the destructive force of the powerful fragor)

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#35  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@cooldes: I already posted fragor video..

But I wouldn't say vasto lorde is close to dangai ichigo. Even Monster aizen couldn't feel his reiatsu till the end.

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#36  Edited By StrictlyAnime

So

1. Pre timetkip naruto

2. Kno naruto

3. Agent Ichigo

4. Kn3 NAruto

5. Pretime luffy no gears

6. Fullbring Ichigo

7. Kn4 naruto

8. Zagentstu Ichigo

9. Luffy whith gears

10. Sage naruto

11. post TS Luffy no gears ( dose the no gears include haki?)

12. Banki Ichigo (maybe depending on speed blits rules)

13. Kn6 naruto

14. Nightmarge Luffy

15. Kn7 naruto

16. post time skip luffy whith gears /same as current

17. kuma clock Naruto

18. Visardo Ichigo

19. Visardlord Ichigio

20. Biju Naruto

21. Biju sage Naruto

22. Dangi Ichigo

The hypotheticals I have no feats for but if I were pushed I would say they go like this Sprit king>SO6P>Prite king

The post time skip Ichigo dose not have enough feats to judge

And the new ichigo has not even fought once all we know is that he is really fast

I agree with a lot of this

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I'll come back to this. Very interesting. Especially the hypothetical ones.

Thanks for the callout!

I think Pirate King Luffy might be able to make it up to Bijju mode. Haki, speed, and versatility vs. All That Bad@ssery would be an awesome matchup.

I don't think either of them could stand up to anything above Vastly Lorde. I don't know a lot about him, I used to watch Bleach casually. But I hear he's pretty OP.

IMO, Ichigo > Luffy > Naruto. Unless I'm missing something about Naruto, but I don't think I am, I'm fairly knowledgable on that.

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I'll.. get back to this....

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#39  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

Okay, here I go...

1. Pre Time Skip Naruto

2. Agent Ichigo

3. KN0 Naruto

4. Post Time Skip Naruto

5. KN1 Naruto

6. KN3 Naruto

7. Shikai Ichigo

8. Full Bringer Ichigo

9. Pre Time Skip, standard Luffy

10. KN4 Naruto

11. Pre Time Skip Luffy w/gears

12. Sage Mode Naruto

13. KN6 Naruto

14. Post Time Skip Luffy

15. Kurama Cloak Naruto

16. Post Time Skip Luffy w/gears

17. Current Luffy

18. Bankai Ichigo (if speed blitz is in effect, he's higher)

19. KN8 Naruto

20. Vizard Ichigo

21. Bijuu Mode Naruto

22. Vaste Lorde Ichigo

23. Sage/Kyuubi Naruto

24. Hypothetical Pirate King Luffy

25. Hypothetical Spirit King Ichigo

26. Hypothetical Sage of the Six Paths/God Naruto

I stopped reading Bleach after the Fullbringer arc cause I was fed up with it, so any abilities after that, I don't know, so I didn't include them.

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@princearagorn1: I think so, he's faster, can deal damage comparable to a Bijuu bomb and I think he had regen if I'm not mistaken

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wtf my list got deleted - i hate this site on my mobile, ill try again tomorrow :)

@princearagorn1: I think so, he's faster, can deal damage comparable to a Bijuu bomb and I think he had regen if I'm not mistaken

yes - i think VL Ichigo should be > known Luffy/Naruto and i don´t think that PK Luffy will be a match for VLI, So6p Naruto is debatable

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#43  Edited By Cooldes

My list(actually just tweaked up the stegmans :))

1. Pre Time Skip Naruto

2. Agent Ichigo

3. KN0 Naruto

4. Post Time Skip Naruto

5. KN1 Naruto

6. KN3 Naruto

7. Shikai Ichigo

8. Full Bringer Ichigo

9. Pre Time Skip, standard Luffy

10. KN4 Naruto

11. Pre Time Skip Luffy w/gears

12. Sage Mode Naruto

13. KN6 Naruto

14. Post Time Skip Luffy

15. Kurama Cloak Naruto

16. Post Time Skip Luffy w/gears

17. Current Luffy

18. Bankai Ichigo

19. KN8 Naruto

20. Vizard Ichigo

21. Bijuu Mode Naruto

22. Sage/Kyuubi Naruto

23. Vasto lorde ichigo

24. Dangai Ichigo

so6p naruto < Pirate king luffy < Spirit king ichigo

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How is KN0 Naruto stronger than Agent Ichigo? I don't think Naruto could take out a Menos Grande while KN0

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#45  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@strictlyanime: I dunno, he was insanely fast and strong.

He blitzed haku, and he stopped that huge snake from orochimaru..

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Ironically, I don't think ichigo could deal with the speed :p

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#46  Edited By Ratava

i mostly agree with cooldes

1. pre ts Naruto

2. Agent Ichigo

3. KN0 Naruto

4. post ts Naruto

5. KN1 Naruto

6. Shikai Ichigo

7. Pre Time Skip Luffy - standard

8. KN3 Naruto

9. FB Ichigo

10. KN4 Naruto

11. SM Naruto

12. pre ts Luffy - gears

13. KN6 Naruto

14. post ts Luffy - standard

15. Kurama Cloak Naruto

16. post ts Luffy - gears

17. Current Luffy

18. Bankai Ichigo

19. KN8 Naruto

20. Vizard Ichigo

21. Bijuu Mode Naruto

22. Sage/Kyuubi Naruto

23. Vasto lorde ichigo

24. Dangai Ichigo

EOS:

Luffy < Naruto < Ichigo

not yet satisfied with my list

- normaly i would rate the KNs a little bit higher because of the raw power but due to being raging beasts i go with sanity > rage

- its especially hard to rate Luffy with/without gears, e.g. pre ts luffy - gears vs. post ts luffy - standard, the haki upgrade is nice but without at least gear2 it won´t do much against faster enemies

i will work it over tomorrow :)

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