I guess race is more of a sociological term whereas subspecies is a biological term.
Are races actually human subspecies?
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While some researchers sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in thescientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive[9] or simplistic way,[15] and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens, and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[16][17]
No. Different skin, hair, and eye colours are called variation in biology. "Subspecies" isn't even related to this.
And race is a fairly modern construct.
we ain't nothin' but mammals.
no they are not that diffrent, to call it sub species. but maybe like different categories in the same species,as in breeds .
dachshund ,grate Dane and African wild dogs are all dogs, but differ in many ways.
we ain't nothin' but mammals.
...So let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel
No.
@jake_fury: some of us cannibals.
While some researchers sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in thescientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive[9] or simplistic way,[15] and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens, and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[16][17]
Pretty much this. Humans did not have enough time in geologic scale to have different species. So we are all equal (our DNA is basically the same....)
While some researchers sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in thescientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive[9] or simplistic way,[15] and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens, and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[16][17]
Pretty much this. Humans did not have enough time in geologic scale to have different species. So we are all equal (our DNA is basically the same....)
How could a speed-based competition be a human subspecies?
Lol.
@modernww2fare Any reason why you tagged or mentioned me in this thread?
@modernww2fare Any reason why you tagged or mentioned me in this thread?
To get your opinion
I wouldn't say so, what we have is one Homo Sapiens species that's migrated all over the world and adapted to the conditions of the area they live in over the generations.
That said, Homo Sapiens is in of itself a subspecies coming from the same family tree as the Neanderthals and chimpanzees.
We can breed and produce fertile offspring, so we are the same species.
Essentially, yes, that's what Biology gives as a general rule of the thumb.
Note the term "rule of the thumb", because my understanding is that Biology does not have a definite yes-no rule.
In most definitions of the word "species", your statement applies.
Of course, there will be certain groups that would try to redefine the word "species" and claim that black people are a separate species from those of fair-skinned people, etc etc
An individual belonging to a group of organisms (or the entire group itself) having common characteristics and (usually) are capable of mating with one another to produce fertile offspring. Failing that (for example the Liger) It has to be ecologically and recognisably the same.
-biology-online.org
I'd say all humans fill both of the criteria.
However, I agree, biology is imo the softest hard science, which is why I chose to not study it. Interbreeding is the rule of thumb, not a clear cut decider. However... rules of thumbs are rules of thumbs for a reason.
@ashildr000: There was absolutely no need to post something like that. None. Don't post racially inflammatory comments of that nature again.
Yes. All the races of the world predominantly spent most of their evolution in different climates and environments, thus causing them to have different attributes. It's weird that we can accept that retrievers and bulldogs are two different types of dogs with differences in attributes....but acknowledging that Sub saharan africans and Eastern Asians are two different types of humans?? No way, you must be a racist!
It's a thread with a stupid topic. LOL. But, nah. Races aren't a subspecies. That doesn't even make sense.
Races aren't a subspecies.
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@modernww2fare Why are you bumping this asinine thread? Especially when you deleted the OP. It makes no sense.
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