I have a question.
Do you think that Ofelia really went to the Underworld place at the end.
Or do you think she died and it was all in her imagination?
I have a question.
Do you think that Ofelia really went to the Underworld place at the end.
Or do you think she died and it was all in her imagination?
@pfcoolio14: Hell yah I did!!! Awesome movie by the way.
Yes she did, think about it.....She really did NOT wanna live in a world LIKE THAT!!!
She wanted to get out of it so bad That she listened to a FAWN A FUC_ING FAWN!!
You know what fawns do to children. I sure she was aware of that.
She listened to the fawn to get to the underworld.
I loved that movie -- loved it and my heart hurt something terrible after watching it.
Take it the way you want to -- you can leave that question unanswered, or you can believe she did enter the Underworld or you can be like me, who watched the film wishing so hard the world Ofelia immersed herself in existed so she could escape the awful one she truly resided in. I still wept at the end because I couldn't help but accept her reality as I felt she deserved mourning from at least someone.
Brilliant film.
Loved that movie
@vortex13 said:
I don't care I prefer it to be an ambiguous ending without deciding a clear definite decision. It adds to the mystique and quality of the film. But regardless of all that, the movie was superb and an amazing masterpiece of film making.... which was followed by Hellboy 2....
Ugh. I love Guillermo but that movie was a heap of dogsh**.
???? That's the first criticism I've ever heard about it. I mean, fair enough....i was just surprised to hear that.
Awesome film. I believe it was all in her head, so when she died, she died.
@optimuspalm: I thought the movie was kind of stupid at first, but the moment the girl eats the grape I facepalmed so hard my hand went out the back of my head. Then it just got worse from there. It had a decent atmosphere but couldn't find its balance -- I get the Guillermo Del Toro likes to balance harsh, dark realism with childlike fantasy and usually it works (Are You Afraid Of The Dark) to great effect. This movie, however, did not work for me in the slightest. I hated the protagonist for being a willful b****, thought the fawn was a bullying snake, and thought everyone else was basically superfluous, telling another story (a WAR story) that I cared about even less than the story I had already come for and been disappointed in. *deep breath* Also it was in spanish.
This movie was sad. But if you guys really want sad then watch the Orphanage (El orfanato). That movie was so depressing in the end once everything came into light.
I was young and don't remember what it was about .. I just remember the thing with wings that was in Hellboy 2 and the demon with the eyes in its hands ! Need to rewatch it
@imnemothegemini: Dooooon't.
@optimuspalm: I thought the movie was kind of stupid at first, but the moment the girl eats the grape I facepalmed so hard my hand went out the back of my head. Then it just got worse from there. It had a decent atmosphere but couldn't find its balance -- I get the Guillermo Del Toro likes to balance harsh, dark realism with childlike fantasy and usually it works (Are You Afraid Of The Dark) to great effect. This movie, however, did not work for me in the slightest. I hated the protagonist for being a willful b****, thought the fawn was a bullying snake, and thought everyone else was basically superfluous, telling another story (a WAR story) that I cared about even less than the story I had already come for and been disappointed in. *deep breath* Also it was in spanish.
Yes to all of this, HOWEVER.. upon further reflection (and now knowing how kids actually do behave) I feel her eating the grape was exactly what a little girl would do in those circumstances, feeling empowered by her newfound lineage and ability and wanting to test a boundary. The subtitles were a bit much, but they added an otherworldly feel to it, almost like I was reading a fairytale that was unfolding before my eyes. As for the rest of the cast and the war, it only really serves to mark a place in time and a sense of being overwhelmed- something the girl feels all the time, but we as viewers needed to find ourselves mired in something external that we couldn't control either.
@optimuspalm: I thought the movie was kind of stupid at first, but the moment the girl eats the grape I facepalmed so hard my hand went out the back of my head. Then it just got worse from there. It had a decent atmosphere but couldn't find its balance -- I get the Guillermo Del Toro likes to balance harsh, dark realism with childlike fantasy and usually it works (Are You Afraid Of The Dark) to great effect. This movie, however, did not work for me in the slightest. I hated the protagonist for being a willful b****, thought the fawn was a bullying snake, and thought everyone else was basically superfluous, telling another story (a WAR story) that I cared about even less than the story I had already come for and been disappointed in. *deep breath* Also it was in spanish.
Yes to all of this, HOWEVER.. upon further reflection (and now knowing how kids actually do behave) I feel her eating the grape was exactly what a little girl would do in those circumstances, feeling empowered by her newfound lineage and ability and wanting to test a boundary. The subtitles were a bit much, but they added an otherworldly feel to it, almost like I was reading a fairytale that was unfolding before my eyes. As for the rest of the cast and the war, it only really serves to mark a place in time and a sense of being overwhelmed- something the girl feels all the time, but we as viewers needed to find ourselves mired in something external that we couldn't control either.
Well-spoken, but it does not change how I felt about the film. For entertainment purposes, it had no value to me.
This movie was sad. But if you guys really want sad then watch the Orphanage (El orfanato). That movie was so depressing in the end once everything came into light.
I will -- and there is another one called Life is Beautiful (La vita è bella) and it was amazing. Warning: it's in Italian but come with English subtitles. IIRC it won best foreign film Oscar, or maybe even best film overall. Anyway - it's the kind of films I find myself gravitated to. Thank you for your suggestion. :)
Life is Beautiful was a great movie. I've seen it like 3 times.
Another good Italian movie would be Bicycle Thief (Ladri di biciclette). It's a very old movie (1948 irc) and displays the tough economic times Italians faced post WWII.
Beijing Bicycle is another great movie as well. It's a Chinese movie and was made in 2001 irc. It was banned in China for a couple of years because it showcased them in a bad light.
You are a treasure trove of good recommendations. Those both sound like movies I would enjoy. Thanks again!
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