@Xanni15 said:
@cameron83 said:
@Xanni15: agree with you all the way....that isn't to say that I don't agree with you @minigunman123
but people in this country will jeer you and call you close minded (ironically,they are shown to be intolerant of another person's views)
It goes both ways, as I'm sure you'd agree.
It can, but things like InnerVenom's thoughts about how saying "homosexuality is wrong, don't do it" is a bad, evil thing, is one of the close minded things. So, we're not allowed to have our own opinions on things? He seriously just said, you have to think a certain way, or you should get thrown in jail. How is that even remotely OK? It's Nazism. Christians don't teach that we should all be stoning gays, or anything, we just teach that we shouldn't be doing it. It's a lifestyle choice that we should all be free to make and teach, but just like how homosexuals sometimes get slammed by jerks who don't approve of them, or they get physically abused, Christians who don't agree with homosexuality, such as myself, get slammed way more often per person with those beliefs, and often just as hard. You might have no idea, but I've witnessed it first hand in a public venue that normally has pretty benign folk. We don't have the occasional ass calling us "fags" or something (which is awful, by the way,) we get constantly inundated with things like "you're beliefs are evil" or "you're evil", or "you're a blind fool following silly beliefs", or "you're a close minded moron", or "your god is dead", or challenges to our faith from people who are angry at us individuals for whatever reason (such as people trying to disprove our beliefs), whenever we bring up what we believe. When people say they're gay, the most common response is one of praise, in America and Europe. Families might sometimes have trouble with it (families have trouble when a family member decides to change their religion too), there are certain areas that have a high density of people that actually hate gays (there are plenty of people that are vocal about how they hate Christians or Christian people, or at least many ideologies of it), and for every area like that, there are at least two like that for Christians (and that's being conservative, since nearly everyone who's not Christian or Catholic disagrees with us, and at one point or another, tries to debate with us because they don't like our beliefs), and the most common response when someone says they're Christian or *gasp* says they disapprove of homosexuality, is one of abuse and insulting remarks. I have actually been blessed by knowing a gay person who's one of my best friends, who knows I'm Christian and knows my stance, but we're cool with each other, we're friends, and we actually joke around a lot and protect each other from crap on campus; Christians do not hate gays, and we should be allowed to try and teach our own religion because it is not one of hatred. Anyone who says it is, is ignorant of what Churches teach every Sunday.
Luckily, America has not banned anything about being Christian yet, but many other countries, including Canada, have. That's what started this whole topic.
It is not a one-way street, you're right, but traffic is certainly higher on one lane than the other, but that's just not a popular topic within media, or at least, not one people like to acknowledge.
This is why America seems to be getting worse from my perspective. It's like how gays used to be treated 60 or 100 years ago, and it's getting worse. It wasn't right then, it's not right now. America needs to stand apart from other countries and not have socialized medicine, not outlaw preaching against homosexuality, and not redistributing wealth because rich people are somehow "bad" or "owe" it to others (and, by the way, lots of rich people donate to many charities, in significant amounts, in addition to the taxes they pay to help fund the stupid crap we have; they definitely don't "owe" anyone anything just because they're rich.) This is what I mean by America getting worse. We're tending towards these ideals, and it's bad.
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