#1 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok now I can't be the only one here, who watches Spartacus...am I? I have seen all the seasons thus far, up to War of the Damned and can't wait until the next episode comes tomorrow. So any fans here? How do ya folks like it? Fave characters? I honestly can't pick a favorite lol, I like all the actors they do so well, I also like how they talk which at times i'll admit can get me confused but for the most part I do understand and like how the show deals with dialogue. I am just surprised, cause the episodes so far have made me go O_O and have me on the edge of my seat just waiting for the next episode! It kills me waiting a week, just to see what happens next lol. 
 
Anyway...what thoughts do ya'll have on this series? 

#2 Posted by DH69 (4258 posts) - - Show Bio

Liam has definetly done a good job filling Andy Whitfields shoes, and this season is pretty good villain wise, but god damn Navia really needs to get killed off, she was a likable character in the first series, but has become nothing but a b****y victem character and now i can't stand her.

#3 Edited by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio
@DH69 said:

Liam has definetly done a good job filling Andy Whitfields shoes, and this season is pretty good villain wise, but god damn Navia really needs to get killed off, she was a likable character in the first series, but has become nothing but a b****y victem character and now i can't stand her.

Ok ya Navia has become a real...b**** that is for sure, I can admit that. But aside from that fact, its going pretty well and Liam has done just that your right. I am curious to see though, how Spartacus and co will get outta the jam they are in, cause they seem to have legions of Romans upon them so it isn't just a matter of getting out of the city. Crassus isn't a moron, but then neither is Spartacus so it will be interesting to see how it all turns out. Am kinda hoping that Navia does die soon though, to push Crixus on because she seems to be poison to him now compared to the previous seasons.
#4 Edited by DH69 (4258 posts) - - Show Bio

hate to say it but they're pretty much screwed, if i remember correctly spartacus' army was ripped to shreds pretty soon after a failed negotiation with Crassus, and this series/season is already half done

#5 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

Well as I recall, the writers did say of doing something different near the end so who knows. You have anything favorite characters btw?

#6 Posted by DH69 (4258 posts) - - Show Bio

Gannicus has grown on me at first i wasnt to fond of me but now im lovin him, and im sad Onimaus (i know im not spelling that right) is dead he was awesome.

#7 Posted by Urban_Ronin (9935 posts) - - Show Bio

The end is near. Spartacus and company are nearing death. Its one reason why the past couple episodes saw his rebels becoming unlikable characters (those dudes holding that chick in the dungeon really drove that point home). Navia turning into a complete biaotch is another. Caesar on the other hand is kinda Beast Mode. I like how they've developed his character and recently read that there are secret plans to spin his character/role off into his own series (which I think is a badass idea).

Big fan of the show, RIP AW. It'll be sad to see em make that final stand but in my opinion the series has done a great job turning Crassus & Caeser into a respectable opponents. Characters that you may not want to see victories but also ones that wont leave you feeling like a rage monster when they do.

#8 Edited by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio
@Quintus_Knightfall said:

The end is near. Spartacus and company are nearing death. Its one reason why the past couple episodes saw his rebels becoming unlikable characters (those dudes holding that chick in the dungeon really drove that point home). Navia turning into a complete biaotch is another. Caesar on the other hand is kinda Beast Mode. I like how they've developed his character and recently read that there are secret plans to spin his character/role off into his own series (which I think is a badass idea).

Big fan of the show, RIP AW. It'll be sad to see em make that final stand but in my opinion the series has done a great job turning Crassus & Caeser into a respectable opponents. Characters that you may not want to see victories but also ones that wont leave you feeling like a rage monster when they do.

I too like how they have done Caesar, a great character and I really do hope they make a spin-off in the likeness of the Spartacus series. It really is the closest capture(that I have seen) of the time period. 
 
@DH69:  Also ya, I was pretty sad when he died too. :/ Though Gannicus avenged him!
#9 Posted by umbrafeline (5300 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Posted by kuonphobos (4898 posts) - - Show Bio

@Quintus_Knightfall said:

Caesar on the other hand is kinda Beast Mode. I like how they've developed his character and recently read that there are secret plans to spin his character/role off into his own series (which I think is a badass idea).

Do you recall where you read this?

I also think it is a great idea. Between he and Crassus they could really mine several more seasons. Crassus ends up going off to war in Parthia and fares quite poorly. Caesar's future is very well known but very little has ever been set to film regarding his days prior to the events at Alesia which is where the HBO series Rome begins.

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Regarding the OP. I also look forward to Spartacus each week. I am really enjoying the Crassus character as well as Caesar although his actions within the city seemed a little forced. I was happy when that turd Nemetes met his end after attempting to make an alliance with JC.

I really miss Andy Whitfield. Liam McIntyre has done well enough but he really doesn't compare IMO.

I do have a little issue with the slave army's costuming. I would think that the ex-soldiers (like Spartacus) would have started to use some variation of Roman armor (which is a little anachronistic; Romans wore chain mail not Lorica Segmentata in this period) to gain more advantage. I realize some would prefer to maintain the flexibility they need for their gladiator fighting styles, but I think the advantages for the ex-soldiers would mitigate that.....ho hum....

New and improved Naevia is one smokin' hot warrior babe. Even if she is a little whiny.

#11 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio
@kuonphobos:  I think its more to, he wants to remain some part of him being a Gladiator and be among his brothers. Navia is....ehh, she does sometimes come off as a b**** though I mean she did kill Gannicus's friend and then later gave a half filled s*** apology to him which he of course blew off, she doesn't really seem to acknowledge the things that she did. But anyway...new episode tonight, can't wait to see what happens!
#12 Posted by kuonphobos (4898 posts) - - Show Bio

I did a little research last night after reading the juicy tidbit about a Caesar spin-off and the most recent news item I could find was dated January 18, 2013 and it was basically a brief interview with the actor who plays Caesar. He stated that he was "in the dark" about any upcoming spin-off. It seems at this point to be little more than a rumor.

But I am hopeful.

Note to STARZ: "I was planning on cancelling my subscription to your channel at the completion of Spartacus: War of the Damned. Any verification that there will indeed be a Julius Caesar spin-off would certainly stay my hand."

=)

#13 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio
@kuonphobos said:

I did a little research last night after reading the juicy tidbit about a Caesar spin-off and the most recent news item I could find was dated January 18, 2013 and it was basically a brief interview with the actor who plays Caesar. He stated that he was "in the dark" about any upcoming spin-off. It seems at this point to be little more than a rumor.

But I am hopeful.

Note to STARZ: "I was planning on cancelling my subscription to your channel at the completion of Spartacus: War of the Damned. Any verification that there will indeed be a Julius Caesar spin-off would certainly stay my hand."

=)

I dunno if they would give an answer now, given they are probably still thinking about it and or want to keep it a secret and have it appear on STARZ as a new series coming but who knows.
#14 Posted by Strider92 (16721 posts) - - Show Bio

Liam has done a grand job of replacing Andy. Just a shame this series is ending after so few seasons.

#15 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

All I have to say is WOW! Gannicus is a BEAST! I also figured that Crassus would have found out what Tiberus did to his love, but then figured it would be too soon but that could change. Well it seems that Spartacus and his rebels are trapped which sucks, more to that Tiberus freeing Donar(it was him right?) and him fighting Caesar was a pretty sweet scene, even when wounded Donar put up a good fight and I feel at a 100% he would have been able to kill Caesar(plot armor not withstanding). 
 
All in all, the episode was really good(but then so has the whole series been) am curious to see how the next episode plays out, perhaps Naevia does die.

#16 Posted by Urban_Ronin (9935 posts) - - Show Bio

@kuonphobos: I read it in the most recent issue of Esquire I believe.

#17 Posted by kuonphobos (4898 posts) - - Show Bio

OK here are some of my thoughts from last nights episode: "Spoils of War"

Any previous discussion of the writers trying to soften the viewers on the Romans and harden it against the slaves is kinda out the window. The execution scene, the betrayal of Laeta all made me remember why Spartacus has remained a symbol of equality and freedom and rebellion for over two thousand years.

This season (and probably the previous seasons) I have noticed how much the slaves like to jump off of things or jump into the fray (so to speak). This has started to annoy me a little. I realize that the creators of this show have obtained some radical new technology and are eager to show it off (just watch the Starz Spartacus prieview that is running concurrently this season or wait for the DVD extras) but all the jumpiness is starting to verge upon cheesiness IMO.

I can't recall that Crassus ever had any engineering marvel constructed to thwart Spartacus. I certainly don't recall him having one built so gargantuan as to rival the Great Wall of China. He certainly had the funds but at this point Rome may have been a little low on slave labor and he certainly didn't have the time. Now perhaps I missed a subtle allusion to the fact that someone else had constructed this mega-obstruction years ago and kept it secret.

Now there are only four episodes left and it is interesting to consider the titles of each:

"Mors Indecepta" - which means something along the lines of "hidden death" will continue to see the rift between Spartacus and Crixus widen.

"Separate Paths" - would seem to tell us that Spartacus and Crixus finally go their own ways which is ultimately what weakened them and made them easy pickings for Rome. Historically (according to Barry Strauss) Spartacus tried a few times to get the group to leave the Italian peninsula to return to other regions of Europe while they could. It was a faction led by Crixus (one of the few named in history along with Gannicus) who wanted plunder and decided to stay like a buzzsaw moving all through Italy wreaking havoc.

"The Dead and the Dying" - sounds ominous

"Victory" - interesting title depending on one's perspective. Perhaps someone escapes the final wrath of Rome? Historically it is only assumed that Spartacus met the same fate as his followers.

All in all I will miss the show when it is gone for a number of reasons. And it will join HBO's Rome as one of my go to re-watch titles. But I would pretty much watch anything related to Ancient Rome. Someone seriously needs to produce the story of Sulla. Perhaps using Colleen McCullough or Steven Saylor as a blueprint.

I have also heard some rumors about HBO retelling "I, Claudius"....now that would be awesome!

#18 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya the execution of that one slave being pulled apart was rather brutal, but to that point about the last episode. Since its only assumed, that Spartacus died the writers can open it up and having him live, or they could just leave to interpretation as to what happened.

#19 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh man what an episode! I HATE THIS lol, now we must wait till next Friday to see what happens! <<....As for this episode, was hoping that Crassus would learn of the whole rape thing that Tiberus did...guess not ah well. Was rather interesting how they got passed the wall, by filling the trench with the dead...but man cannot wait till next episode!

#20 Posted by turoksonofstone (13199 posts) - - Show Bio

..The show? hmmm,

#21 Posted by Dreadmaster (16778 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Gannicus. That dude is a beast.

Oh yeah, I love the show too.

#22 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio
@dreadmaster said:

I love Gannicus. That dude is a beast.

Oh yeah, I love the show too.

He is lol, Crixus though showed some nice moves too in the last episode and he hit Spartacus with a pitcher of ice right upside the head! OUCH, you'd think that would give the latter a concussion not just a bleeding head lol.
#23 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

*Brings this thread back from the grave, due to series finale*

....I...*is just at a loss for words*...can't believe its over..

#24 Posted by Dreadmaster (16778 posts) - - Show Bio

All good things must come to an end. That new Da Vinci series doesn't help by reminding me that Rome lives for a bevy of more centuries after the slave rebellion. :-(

#25 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

All good things must come to an end. That new Da Vinci series doesn't help by reminding me that Rome lives for a bevy of more centuries after the slave rebellion. :-(

I watched the 1st episode, looks promising. But ya...its over, Gannicus got crucified wtf! Also I was on the edge of my seat with Crassus vs Spartacus, I was not expecting the spears near the end...that was just O_O. However...the episode did show, that Crassus and Ceasar were no match for Spartacus or Gannicus

#26 Posted by laflux (16770 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: Davinci looks like soft porn with plots, wasn't feeling it. I was sad to see the Sparticus ending, but if you are familiar with the story of Sparticus, then you knew what was coming. Sparticus was a great show.

#28 Posted by Strider92 (16721 posts) - - Show Bio

Brilliant ending. Sad its over but at least we get a Caeser spin-off out of it!

#29 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74: Eh tbh, I still am unsure of it...I think i'll watch another episode just to make sure.

@strider92: Source?

#30 Posted by Strider92 (16721 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: I'll try and find the link. DeKnight said he was strongly considering it and Lasance has said he'd be interested in returning for it.

#31 Edited by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: I'll try and find the link. DeKnight said he was strongly considering it and Lasance has said he'd be interested in returning for it.

Awesome, hope ya find it!

#32 Edited by kuonphobos (4898 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly didn't really dig "surfer Caesar" and hated sitting there knowing he couldn't die. Not sure I would be interested anymore in a Caesar spin-off with Lasance in the role. Lacks nobility which along with brilliant "strategery" may have been his (the historical Caesar) only redeeming qualities.

Sorry the show is over but I am glad they made it and that it could end with forethought and planning unlike HBO Rome which was forced.

I liked Gannicus' vision of Oenomaus (sp) at the end. Made me think a little of Ridley Scott playing with Maximus going in and out of Elysium.

I really liked how at Spartacus' death he summed it all up with (paraphrase) "True victory is to leave this world a free person."

I really, really liked how they brought it all full circle with "my name is not Spartacus"...when of course "I am Spartacus" is the most famous line from both this and Kubrick's version. The idea of shedding the first and perhaps greatest Roman insult and form of enslavement was subtle and powerful.

I really liked the final credits which basically surveyed the entire series and ended exactly the way it should have with Andy Whitfield declaring that he was indeed Spartacus.

#33 Posted by Wolfrazer (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly didn't really dig "surfer Caesar" and hated sitting there knowing he couldn't die. Not sure I would be interested anymore in a Caesar spin-off with Lasance in the role. Lacks nobility which along with brilliant "strategery" may have been his (the historical Caesar) only redeeming qualities.

Sorry the show is over but I am glad they made it and that it could end with forethought and planning unlike HBO Rome which was forced.

I liked Gannicus' vision of Oenomaus (sp) at the end. Made me think a little of Ridley Scott playing with Maximus going in and out of Elysium.

I really liked how at Spartacus' death he summed it all up with (paraphrase) "True victory is to leave this world a free person."

I really, really liked how they brought it all full circle with "my name is not Spartacus"...when of course "I am Spartacus" is the most famous line from both this and Kubrick's version. The idea of shedding the first and perhaps greatest Roman insult and form of enslavement was subtle and powerful.

I really liked the final credits which basically surveyed the entire series and ended exactly the way it should have with Andy Whitfield declaring that he was indeed Spartacus.

Ya I thought the whole ending bits were nice, especially liked the part when Spartacus died it began to rain...The Bringer of Rain!