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#1  Edited By laflux

Now after my "Real men suck Dick thread", I can totally understand why after watching the following video (if they decide to do so), people may think that I'm sexually confused, or just trolling. I'm...... ummm probably not the first and I'm definitely not doing the later (in this particular post). Truth is I have long been a detractor of certain forms art which I think rather than trying to portray any meaningful idea, entices an audience through shock and hype. A great example being of the conveniently attractive woman, Milo Moiré, who while naked, gave birth to coloured eggs from an elevated position onto a piece of paper to make a drawing. Recently though, I found myself doubting this type of viewpoint when I came across this video 365 Days of Penis.

Shown to me by a friend as a way to garner my amusement, I thought that it would illicit the same sense of ire that I usually feel with these things, but after a "somewhat" childish chuckle, I was struck not only by the talent of the artist in question, but on a personal level, the richness and variety of Human life that each drawing portrayed (up until he started drawing animal phalluses anyway). I was also impressed the way the concept was executed and delivered. But I couldn't help feel that I was contradicting myself by liking it. I eventually self-reassured that if it wasn't for the nature of this work, it probably wouldn't have been shown to me in the first place, and that its "shock value" was secondary the real worth of the piece. But it got me thinking. My view is ultimately subjective, so I would like to take the chance to ask CV a few questions

1. Is Shock value a legitimate reasons for Art pieces to exsist in of themselves?

2. If not, do you think that incorporating elements into Art is justified, if they attract people who can then exposed to the underlying meanings?

3. To what extent is Shock value important in launching and Maintaining an Artists career?

4. Are you creeped out by Laflux's thread choices as of late?

The Video's and links will be posted below. I will like to take the opportunity to say that this is (semi) NSFW,so if you do not like drawings of Phalluses, don't click the link or watch the video. Also if any Moderator wishes to speak to me or feel I should make any edits to the posts, so be it.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maycie/some-guy-drew-a-penis-on-his-wifes-white-board-every-single

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNqrCZslveQ

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Real gay men suck dick should be the more appropriate name

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#4  Edited By laflux

@JetiiMitra said:

@laflux: I've seen the video you're referring to before, but it's not showing up under the spoiler.

That may be the silent Moderator edit. That's fine though, I'll just give out the Youtube URL. They can watch the earlier version on the buzzfeed thread too :)

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@laflux: You made a thread about how real men suck d1ck? lol.

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*claps*

A toast! To Laflux!

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#15  Edited By Deathstroke02

You need help.

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#17  Edited By laflux

Appreciate the posts guys but but do people think about the questions?

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@slimj87d said:

@laflux: are you a hipster?

Hipster is not an absolute term, but if listening to radio cassette's with Beats sound Hipster to you, then yeah, maybe I am.

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#19  Edited By Oscuro

To each his own?...

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Since the nature of art is so subjective, I want to note a few things before answering: I believe art is ultimately a means for an expression of self and communication of ideas. That is its purpose, and to criticize it one needs to look at the intent of the artist, and the artist's level of skill. Something needs to be expressed, and it needs to be expressed well in the manner the artist wanted to express it. That said, my answers will of course apply only to me.

1) Shock value alone is no reason for a piece to exist. It can certainly be used to great effect in a work, but if the only reason something exists is to get a temporary and shallow reaction out of its audience, then I don't consider it art because nothing is truly expressed or communicated. There is no intent beyond the recoil. It's not much more than a prank in my opinion.

2) Yes. Shock value can be used, it just shouldn't be the sole reason behind a piece. Maybe the reaction is part of what was communicated. It could very easily be used to ask why we find some things repulsive, for example.

3) I'm really not sure. I think that the artist being true to their art is more important, but of course that doesn't guarantee success. What launches a career is being noticed for something different, which doesn't necessarily need to be shock value. So I guess I'll say not very, as it's only one way to get noticed - and a decreasingly effective one, the more artists try to use it.

4) I wish I'd seen the "Real Men Suck Dick" thread :(

Very cool. Thanks :)

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#22  Edited By Deathstroke02

@laflux: What happened to the "Real Men Suck Dick Thread"?

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#26 BumpyBoo  Moderator

@laflux said:

@russellmania77 said:

@The_Deathstroker: i eat p**sy not laflux's d*ck bro...

I'd do both, but I'm not flexible enough for auto fellatio......

Aw now come on you two, this OP is actually pretty mature and thought provoking after the initial shock value and giggle factor, there are some really interesting questions here (am pondering them now actually). Let's not get a perfectly good thread locked by not being mature enough for the subject matter guys, you both know statements like the above are absolutely not cool *looks at you disapprovingly over her glasses* >:)

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#28  Edited By BumpyBoo  Moderator

@laflux: No worries man, cool thread, will be coming back to this in a little while :)

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@bumpyboo said:

@laflux said:

@russellmania77 said:

@The_Deathstroker: i eat p**sy not laflux's d*ck bro...

I'd do both, but I'm not flexible enough for auto fellatio......

Aw now come on you two, this OP is actually pretty mature and thought provoking after the initial shock value and giggle factor, there are some really interesting questions here (am pondering them now actually). Let's not get a perfectly good thread locked by not being mature enough for the subject matter guys, you both know statements like the above are absolutely not cool *looks at you disapprovingly over her glasses* >:)

See. This is what I mean Bump. Oppression. They're just having a totally normal conversation about servicing one's own-- Yeah, I get it.

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#30 BumpyBoo  Moderator

@capfanboy: I am gonna oppress you right in the face, dammit :P

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@capfanboy: Since when do you defend me? Is this a case of siding with (in your eyes), the lesser of two evils?

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*Silently goes back to battle forums*

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@bumpyboo said:

@capfanboy: I am gonna oppress you right in the face, dammit :P

That sounds fairly pleasurable. What will you be oppressing me with?

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@capfanboy: Since when do you defend me? Is this a case of siding with (in your eyes), the lesser of two evils?

She's the overlord now, that means I must re-start the rebellion. I made a fairy tale and everything, were you not paying attention?

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@bumpyboo said:

@capfanboy: A banhammer and a smile >:)

Is a banhammer a euphemism? Cause if not, this is becoming less fun by the second.

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#36  Edited By BumpyBoo  Moderator

@bumpyboo said:

@capfanboy: A banhammer and a smile >:)

Is a banhammer a euphemism? Cause if not, this is becoming less fun by the second.

Potentially :)

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@bumpyboo said:

@capfanboy said:

@bumpyboo said:

@capfanboy: A banhammer and a smile >:)

Is a banhammer a euphemism? Cause if not, this is becoming less fun by the second.

Potentially :)

Have I just corrupted a moderator?

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@cameron83 said:

@capfanboy said:

@bumpyboo said:

@capfanboy: Nah, you corrupted me ages ago :P

Yes I did.

These conversations are so weird 0.o

Yes they are...and probably aren't PG either.

lol

Not gonna lie,I've never seen the "corrupted" side of Bumpyboo.

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lol

Not gonna lie,I've never seen the "corrupted" side of Bumpyboo.

That's cause it usually comes out between three closed doors and a blanket...

Too far?

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#44  Edited By BumpyBoo  Moderator

@cameron83: Hehehe, I dare say with Cappie back you'll see more of it...>_>

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@bumpyboo said:

@cameron83: Hehehe, I dare say with Cappie back you'll see more of it...>_>

Hey, not fair. I thought only I saw--oh. The bad side.

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WTAF

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@bumpyboo said:

@cameron83: Hehehe, I dare say with Cappie back you'll see more of it...>_>

lol I look forward to it. :P

That sounds kinda weird.

@cameron83 said:

lol

Not gonna lie,I've never seen the "corrupted" side of Bumpyboo.

That's cause it usually comes out between three closed doors and a blanket...

Too far?

.......I like this guy. I'm gonna follow you.

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@z3ro180 said:

WTAF

Would not What The Absolute Penis be more appropriate?

.......I like this guy. I'm gonna follow you.

I like me too! So does @bumpyboo, no matter how much she refuses to admit it

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#49  Edited By The_Deathstroker

@bumpyboo: This is the famous yet elusive CapFanBoy you were talking about?

...... Huh.

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@bumpyboo: This is the famous yet elusive CapFanBoy you were talking about?

...... Huh.

Yep. You seem kinda whelmed.