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#1 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio

my aunts next door nieghber says lil wayne is a better rapper i say he is  crazy 2 pac is the best rapper ever so what is you opinion.

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#2 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio
2Pac is easily better than Weezy... Wayne is so Overrated it's ridiculous...
#3 Posted by joshmightbe (24697 posts) - - Show Bio

Is it possible to have spite in a rap battle cause if so this is the equivalent of jimmy olsen vs Doomsday (btw Lil Wayne is Jimmy) 

#4 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:
Is it possible to have spite in a rap battle cause if so this is the equivalent of jimmy olsen vs Doomsday (btw Lil Wayne is Jimmy) 
lol!!!
@King Saturn said:
2Pac is easily better than Weezy... Wayne is so Overrated it's ridiculous...

cheeze is ass hole he thinks wayne is better.
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#5 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio
ha ha ha... Lil Wayne is Lil Jimmy  ! 
 
  
#6 Edited by Osiris1428 (1349 posts) - - Show Bio

Tupac in his Deathrow days would make like a "Hit Em Up" type of record for Wayne, and most people would be on Pac's side. Tupac's delivery is better and his subject matter is more relevant. Wayne is entertaining for some, but he so rabbit out the hat with his rhymes. It's Wayne's image that I cannot stand, and especially all these people I seen getting facial tattoos and piercing and dreds because they are a bunch of followers. In a freestyle battle, I think Wayne would take it. Pac wasn't that kind of rapper. His freestyle game is just not spectacular. Wayne apparently does not write his rhymes and is constantly just coming up with material (Pac did the same thing, sure). Wayne is good with punch lines, smilies and metaphors. These are the bread and butter of battle rappers.

#7 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

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#8 Posted by cyberninja (10413 posts) - - Show Bio

Your aunts next door are crazy.

#9 Posted by whacknasty (5606 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

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#10 Posted by GalactaSurfer (429 posts) - - Show Bio
@Osiris1428 said:
Tupac in his Deathrow days would make like a "Hit Em Up" type of record for Wayne, and most people would be on Pac's side. Tupac's delivery is better and his subject matter is more relevant. Wayne is entertaining for some, but he so rabbit out the hat with his rhymes. It's Wayne's image that I cannot stand, and especially all these people I seen getting facial tattoos and piercing and dreds because they are a bunch of followers. In a freestyle battle, I think Wayne would take it. Pac wasn't that kind of rapper. His freestyle game is just not spectacular. Wayne apparently does not write his rhymes and is constantly just coming up with material (Pac did the same thing, sure). Wayne is good with punch lines, smilies and metaphors. These are the bread and butter of battle rappers.

I dont even think Wayne can freestyle for real. almost everything thats come out of his mouth has been written by a far supeior rapper (See Curen$$y).  
#11 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

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spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.
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#12 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

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spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

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#13 Posted by Mr. Mercury (19257 posts) - - Show Bio

People say 2 Pac is the best rapper alive because he was killed and it made him a martyr. He's better than Lil Wayne, but not the best imo.

#14 Posted by IIDEADxPOOLII (1414 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

BB

spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

BB

name some please i say no one can touch him.
Big L for one of them
#15 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson
he is the best rapper listen to this stuff even 50 cent and rick ross said it
  
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#16 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

BB

spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

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name some please i say no one can touch him.

some of them are groups but whatever... 

Mos Def 

Talib Kweli 

Pharoahe Monch 

Wu Tang Clan (8-9 members) 

De la Soul (3 members) 

Phi Life Cypher (2 members and a DJ) 

Rhyme Asylum (+3 members) 

Aesop Rock 

Del the funky homosapien 

MF DOOM 

Nas 

Lupe Fiasco 

Stig of the Dump 

Kool Keith 

Slug 

Black Thought

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#17 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

BB

spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

BB

name some please i say no one can touch him.

some of them are groups but whatever... 

Mos Def 

Talib Kweli 

Pharoahe Monch 

Wu Tang Clan (8-9 members) 

De la Soul (3 members) 

Phi Life Cypher (2 members and a DJ) 

Rhyme Asylum (+3 members) 

Aesop Rock 

Del the funky homosapien 

MF DOOM 

Nas 

Lupe Fiasco 

Stig of the Dump 

Kool Keith 

Slug 

Black Thought

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you are being funny right these guys can not carry pacs jock trap

I bet you haven't even heard their songs. 

BB

#18 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

BB

spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

BB

name some please i say no one can touch him.

some of them are groups but whatever... 

Mos Def 

Talib Kweli 

Pharoahe Monch 

Wu Tang Clan (8-9 members) 

De la Soul (3 members) 

Phi Life Cypher (2 members and a DJ) 

Rhyme Asylum (+3 members) 

Aesop Rock 

Del the funky homosapien 

MF DOOM 

Nas 

Lupe Fiasco 

Stig of the Dump 

Kool Keith 

Slug 

Black Thought

BB

you are being funny right these guys can not carry pacs jock trap

I bet you haven't even heard their songs. 

BB

heard them nowhere near pac......
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#19 Posted by Osiris1428 (1349 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

BB

spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

BB

name some please i say no one can touch him.
Break it down. What do you mean specifically? Flow? Pac rapped from the diaphragm the way the greatest singers have and do. But that kind of rapping kept him from being a nimble as against the beat like Biggie, Eminem, Rakim, or Busta Ryhmes who all rap from the throat or chest. Slick Rick and Humpty Hump rap from the nasal cavity. 
 
Punch lines? Give me an example of a dope punch line from Pac. 
 
Delivery? Pac possibly has the best delivery ever. 
 
Subject matter? Tupac mostly rapped about the inequality in most facets of American life and the world. And he didn't always talk about the same thing. From 'Brenda's Got A Baby', to 'I Get Around', Keep Your Head Up', to 'WHite Man's World', Tupac had a wide breadth of subject matter. No one really talks about all the things that Pac talked about with such passion.
#20 Posted by GalactaSurfer (429 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

BB

spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

BB

name some please i say no one can touch him.

some of them are groups but whatever... 

Mos Def 

Talib Kweli 

Pharoahe Monch 

Wu Tang Clan (8-9 members) 

De la Soul (3 members) 

Phi Life Cypher (2 members and a DJ) 

Rhyme Asylum (+3 members) 

Aesop Rock 

Del the funky homosapien 

MF DOOM 

Nas 

Lupe Fiasco 

Stig of the Dump 

Kool Keith 

Slug 

Black Thought

BB


All of these are excellent choices! BUT you forgot one of the greatest of all time RAKIM!
#21 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio

It's funny when many people agree with me... 

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#22 Posted by joshmightbe (24697 posts) - - Show Bio
@GalactaSurfer: Best is a matter of opinion not fact as such just because he's the best for one doesn't necessarily make him the best to others 
#23 Posted by cyberninja (10413 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr. Mercury said:
People say 2 Pac is the best rapper alive because he was killed and it made him a martyr. He's better than Lil Wayne, but not the best imo.
  
#24 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio
@Osiris1428 said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

BB

spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

BB

name some please i say no one can touch him.
Break it down. What do you mean specifically? Flow? Pac rapped from the diaphragm the way the greatest singers have and do. But that kind of rapping kept him from being a nimble as against the beat like Biggie, Eminem, Rakim, or Busta Ryhmes who all rap from the throat or chest. Slick Rick and Humpty Hump rap from the nasal cavity.  Punch lines? Give me an example of a dope punch line from Pac.  Delivery? Pac possibly has the best delivery ever.  Subject matter? Tupac mostly rapped about the inequality in most facets of American life and the world. And he didn't always talk about the same thing. From 'Brenda's Got A Baby', to 'I Get Around', Keep Your Head Up', to 'WHite Man's World', Tupac had a wide breadth of subject matter. No one really talks about all the things that Pac talked about with such passion.
to me the way he raps the songs he made put him on a level on his own nobody can touch him eazy e ice t and biggie are good rappers but they can not stand up too pac pac can get all gangsta like hit em up or trouble some or he can get positive like dear mama and keep your head up thats what put him on a different level....
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#25 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@GalactaSurfer said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:

It's 2 pac not 2 poc :p Tupac wins but he's not the best. 

BB

spelled it wrong lol!!!! and what do you mean 2 pac is the best rapper ever.

I disagree. I could name many rappers who are better than him. 

BB

name some please i say no one can touch him.

some of them are groups but whatever... 

Mos Def 

Talib Kweli 

Pharoahe Monch 

Wu Tang Clan (8-9 members) 

De la Soul (3 members) 

Phi Life Cypher (2 members and a DJ) 

Rhyme Asylum (+3 members) 

Aesop Rock 

Del the funky homosapien 

MF DOOM 

Nas 

Lupe Fiasco 

Stig of the Dump 

Kool Keith 

Slug 

Black Thought

BB

All of these are excellent choices! BUT you forgot one of the greatest of all time RAKIM!

eh Rakim is great but he's a lil bit slow when it comes to making new stuff and he's gotten worse imo :p 

BB 

#26 Posted by joshmightbe (24697 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011: Actually Rakim was an obvious inspiration for Tupac considering they rapped about the same things Rakim just did it first
#27 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson
he is the best rapper listen to this stuff even 50 cent and rick ross said it
  

That's not even a good diss song...   
here is something better:  
 

(it's not really 8 minutes long)    

 
  
  

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#28 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Actually Rakim was an obvious inspiration for Tupac considering they rapped about the same things Rakim just did it first
but pac is better....
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#29 Posted by joshmightbe (24697 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011: Thats a matter of opinion
#30 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Thats a matter of opinion
sales tell it all and my opinion takes majority...
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#31 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@joshmightbe said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Thats a matter of opinion
sales tell it all and my opinion takes majority...

Sales don't matter. Lil Wayne sells. See? That dude is whack. 

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#32 Posted by JairamGanpat (952 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@joshmightbe said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Thats a matter of opinion
sales tell it all and my opinion takes majority...
How much money does lil wayne make? your point is invalid
#33 Posted by JairamGanpat (952 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson:  
xD we said the same thing
#34 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Billy Batson said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@joshmightbe said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Thats a matter of opinion
sales tell it all and my opinion takes majority...

Sales don't matter. Lil Wayne sells. See? That dude is whack. 

BB

lil wayne is not wack he is just not on pacs level sales matter that tells who is better and majority counts checks p music on youtube every body will tell you he is the best...

Lil Wayne just says random words now. And almost every tenth comments is "that guy is a faggot", "what is pocodot" and good comments are rare on Youtube. 

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#35 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@JairamGanpat:  

lol well almost :p 

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#36 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

The only person that can be fairly matched with Tupac is his rival Biggie. Rakim is above him while Wayne is waaaaaaaaay below him. Now I may be chastised for this but I do believe Grandmaster Flash is better than Tupac... :D

#37 Edited by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Billy Batson said:


Lil Wayne just says random words now. And almost every tenth comments is "that guy is a faggot", "what is pocodot" and good comments are rare on Youtube. 

BB

lil wayne makes good music imo....
 


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#38 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
lil wayne is not wack he is just not on pacs level sales matter that tells who is better and majority counts checks p music on youtube every body will tell you he is the best...
Although I agree with you about Tupac and LW, I'm not 100% sure about the sales telling who's better. Cause then both Rock and Rap would have to bow to Pop... And I can't accept that!!!!!
#39 Edited by joshmightbe (24697 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Billy Batson said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@joshmightbe said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Thats a matter of opinion
sales tell it all and my opinion takes majority...

Sales don't matter. Lil Wayne sells. See? That dude is whack. 

BB

lil wayne is not wack he is just not on pacs level sales matter that tells who is better and majority counts checks p music on youtube every body will tell you he is the best...
by your logic you're saying that Justine Beiber is better than Beethoven because he currently sells more and I refuse to believe that for a second  
#40 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23384 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Billy Batson said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@joshmightbe said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Thats a matter of opinion
sales tell it all and my opinion takes majority...

Sales don't matter. Lil Wayne sells. See? That dude is whack. 

BB

lil wayne is not wack he is just not on pacs level sales matter that tells who is better and majority counts checks p music on youtube every body will tell you he is the best...
by your logic you're saying that Justine Beiber is better than Beethoven because he currently sells more and I refuse to believe that for a second  
@ssejllenrad said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

lil wayne is not wack he is just not on pacs level sales matter that tells who is better and majority counts checks p music on youtube every body will tell you he is the best...
Although I agree with you about Tupac and LW, I'm not 100% sure about the sales telling who's better. Cause then both Rock and Rap would have to bow to Pop... And I can't accept that!!!!!
points taken but tupac is the best ever.....
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#41 Posted by Samimista (20609 posts) - - Show Bio

Lil Wayne a better rapper?HAH!

#42 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9496 posts) - - Show Bio

Lupe Fiasco
Drake
Kanye West
Jay Z 
 
These people are all better than Tupac. And anyways imo Biggie Smalls>Tupac

#43 Posted by GalactaSurfer (429 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson:  That is true but the God Rakim is still killing the performance scene. just cause you dont hear new music doent mean his music aint rocking around the world.
 

@joshmightbe
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@GalactaSurfer: Best is a matter of opinion not fact as such just because he's the best for one doesn't necessarily make him the best to others 

No doubt. I was considering the rappers that BB mentioned and it just surpised me that he didnt mention Rakim.
#44 Posted by GalactaSurfer (429 posts) - - Show Bio

I think another noteworthy rapper for best of them all is BUSTA BUST!!! Busta Ryhmes is one of the greatest rappers and performers out there.  
 
There are a lot of rappers that can drop bars but there arent that many that can spit and entertain at the same time.  
 
Busta is the top of the game when it come to both.

#45 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000: Kanye is better than Tupac?!?!?
#46 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@GalactaSurfer said:
@Billy Batson:  That is true but the God Rakim is still killing the performance scene. just cause you dont hear new music doent mean his music aint rocking around the world.
 

@joshmightbe
said:
@GalactaSurfer: Best is a matter of opinion not fact as such just because he's the best for one doesn't necessarily make him the best to others 
No doubt. I was considering the rappers that BB mentioned and it just surpised me that he didnt mention Rakim.

Of course that wasn't the full list. 

BB

#47 Posted by Billy Batson (57799 posts) - - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011:  

Didn't say it wasn't good but it's not the best. And there will be always someone better. 

BB

#48 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9496 posts) - - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad said:
@buttersdaman000: Kanye is better than Tupac?!?!?
Yes. He makes better music and he is more creative.
Seriously if Tupac was still alive half of yall wouldnt even care for this thread
#49 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000 said:
@ssejllenrad said:
@buttersdaman000: Kanye is better than Tupac?!?!?
Yes. He makes better music and he is more creative. Seriously if Tupac was still alive half of yall wouldnt even care for this thread
Maybe not all would care about him. But I would. I was a fan even before his rivalry with Biggie.  Though I must admit, his death skyrocketed his fame. Same goes with Biggie.
#50 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000 said:
Lupe Fiasco Drake Kanye West Jay Z   These people are all better than Tupac. And anyways imo Biggie Smalls>Tupac
Drake is better than 2Pac ? I do not think so