Mister X,Taskmaster,Shang Chi and Iron fist also bp cap and wolverine
Whose the best hand to hand fighter in the Marvel universe?
...... Yeah I admit I'm not real big fan of Gorgon but given how he's been established as a guy who can destroy an army of Hand ninjas defeat Wolverine and Elektra, I just have a hard time seeing Shang (Not Bruce Lee clone number 180) Chi be able to defeat Gorgon without it being pis on his own given his opponents from past stories are fighting street level gangs, terrorist, and various martial artist.
@spidercom: he has not fought the new and improved panther though
The best Hand to Hand fighter is Shangi-Chi, and that's Offically. Unofficially, I would say Gorgon as he just kicked his ass in Avengers World, comics. Cap is the greatest Tactician and a top tier fighter and so is Black panther. Iron Fist is up there also, up there with Shang Chi and gorgon. I personally think wolverine shouldn't be on that list, he brawls 75 percent of the time and only resorts to his Kung fu stuff when he is in a dragged out battle that his brawling isn't doing him any good.
I really don't know how people keep forgetting Black Panther. His entire fightingstyle is about countering others fightingstyles, and that have been the tradition of all the previous Black Panthers before him. Those Black Panthers he now have knowledge about. His speed, reflexes and strenght (flipped a Rhino) is also something to take into account. How Captain America have beaten him is a mystery to me and probably some PIS.
I really don't know how people keep forgetting Black Panther. His entire fightingstyle is about countering others fightingstyles, and that have been the tradition of all the previous Black Panthers before him. Those Black Panthers he now have knowledge about. His speed, reflexes and strenght (flipped a Rhino) is also something to take into account. How Captain America have beaten him is a mystery to me and probably some PIS.
The Black Panther's grandfather defeated Cap as to Tchalle losing to Cap Claremont I guess. Anyways whats the big deal of Tchalle lost my favorite combat fighter Gamorra lost to the reject Heavy Metal character from Spawn.
one word, Gamora .... she was trained by Thanos to be the greatest... Then again She-Hulk for a time could beat anyone just by quipping "I was taught by insert grand master here" so maybe she's the best notably in she hulk #1 and #15 (both 2005/9 series)
Can't believe people hasn't said Spidey. He's beaten Cap. IF, Deadpool, Wolverine and Electra before and did it with more style than any one of them. Spidey in my eyes is the greatest improvisional fighter in the Marvel U, he can do anything with his superior speed, strength and agilty and is the greatest earth based acrobat in the Marvel U.
Captain America and Iron Fist.
oh geeez. Supposedly this is the from the staff at Marvel. sigh
http://marvel.com/news/comics/2009/9/2/9384/take_10_martial_artists
There order is this....LOL
1 - Iron Fist Danny Rand
2 - Shang Chi
3 - Elektra
4 - Iron Fist Orson Randall
5 - Daredevil
6 - Karnak
7 - Wolverine
8 - Stick
9 - Batroc The Leaper
10 - Kitty Pryde
@krauser99: That Bruce lee knock off is still pretending he's part of the Marvel U. that list is BS. Shang Chi should never be on any list of Marvel related anything at all. Hell I place Batroc the Leaper at above that carbon copy of Bruce Lee. He's an insult to the real Bruce Lee much like all the other carbon copy Bruce Lee knock offs. He should stick to Marvel Max titles away from 616 comics. *&%$*&^ fact.
Iron Fist or Black Panther. I don't think Capt. America or Wolverine are all that tough in all honesty. I know they are, it's just, when talking about the toughest, others take the cake before them (as much as I adore the, especially Cap.)
@jhazzroucher: @theswordsman: @cbninja: @spidercom: http://marvel.com/news/comics/9384/take_10_martial_artists
Brushed up on the thread. My opinion the top five or six guys and we know who they are are probably close enough to each other that on any given day the fights could go any way.
Listing one definite guy above the rest would be hard because just in real these guys are so good just one having a bad day would be the difference in a fight.
@jhazzroucher: @theswordsman: @cbninja: @spidercom: http://marvel.com/news/comics/9384/take_10_martial_artists
this list is impressive... with one exception. Shadowcat? really? rubbish. Even on the x-men you've got AT LEAST Psylocke and Gambit who are better than her. Throw in Sage, X-23 and maybe even Storm and Beast... Kitty deserves recognition for being a deadly fighter, but she's not top 10 material.
Based on skill alone I'd say Iron Fist, since his skills are supposed to be of mythical proportions.
If you involve other kinds of superhuman powers than nth level's of skill... Sentry, Thanos... the people who can shatter mountains and tank then same kinds of blows.
Taskmaster
Squirrel Girl.
That's the list of the best "Martial Artists" not fighters. Characters like Captain America and Black Panther are definitely better fighters than a majority of this list, but they don't specialize in any particular martial art. It also explains how Elektra is ahead of Daredevil since Matt mixes in boxing with his fighting style.
oh geeez. Supposedly this is the from the staff at Marvel. sigh
http://marvel.com/news/comics/2009/9/2/9384/take_10_martial_artists
There order is this....LOL
1 - Iron Fist Danny Rand
2 - Shang Chi
3 - Elektra
4 - Iron Fist Orson Randall
5 - Daredevil
6 - Karnak
7 - Wolverine
8 - Stick
9 - Batroc The Leaper
10 - Kitty Pryde
I think the actual list would be:
1-Iron Fist
2-Shang Chi
3-Black Panther
4-Daredevil
5-Karnak
6-Any of the Immortal Weapons
7-Captain America
8-Elektra
9-Wolverine
10-Taskmaster
Black Panther, Iron Fist & Winter Soldier (in that order).... Those are my favorite hand-to-hand fighters.
Captain America followed by Wolverine (he may prefer to just slug his way through a fight but his highly skilled).
Wolverine, he's fought in every war (u know what I mean) is a samurai because of his extended longetivity he's taken that time to train in every form of martial arts is an expert in h2h and is a ruthless warrior he won't stop fighting til the battle is over
Sang Chi is one of them followed by spiderman (cause he was trained by Chi) iron fist thing nick Fury daredevil deadpool taskmaster black panther Punisher black widow thor winter soldier in my opinion
I'm thinking my list of pure marvel earth skill:
1) Danny Rand
2) Logan Howlett
3) T'Challa
4) Matt Murdock
5) Steve Rogers
Black Panther has defeated Cap, Cap has defeated Iron Fist, Taskmaster has defeated both Cap and Iron Fist. Wolverine is not such a great fighter in terms of skill, he relies on his strength and claws. Daredevil is good but I would place Tasky, Cap, Panther, and Danny above him. Elektra would be a tough one too. Overall I think Taskmaster, Elektra, and Black Panther are the best fighters.
Marvel's Top Three Martial Artists are people most haven't heard of:
1. Mantis (Pressure points used to solo the entire Avengers team)
2. Gorgon (Has bested Wolverine and has Telepathy and Inhuman advantages)
3. Classic Gamora (2 and 3 and interchangeable)
4. Mr. X (Telepathy allows to read opponents movements)
5. Taskmaster (Non-jobber, Master in all forms of Martial Arts by studying Marvel's other great Martial Artists and perfecting their moves)
Honorable mentions: Classic Daredevil, Winter Soldier, Elektra, Captain America, Wolverine, Iron Fist including all the other fighters who represent the Seven Capital Cities of Heaven, Shang Chi, Black Panther, Stick, Karnak and Daken
I'm thinking my list of pure marvel earth skill:
1) Danny Rand
2) Logan Howlett
3) T'Challa
4) Matt Murdock
5) Steve Rogers
@supermanwithatan01: I agree with most of this list however I'd put it like this. Captain America=Black Panther=Wolverine/Logan>>Iron Fist>>Shang Chai. Wolverine and Black Panther aren't given nearly as much credit as they should be considering Cap Wolverine and Black Panther have all beaten eachother with pure skill.
Top 10 Marvel fighters: (only male)
Wolverine
Captain America
Ironfist
Daken
Shang Chi
Daredevil
Taskmaster
Deadpool
Black Panther
Karnak
(There are too many honorable mentions to go into, and this list is almost exclusively comprised of heroes, so I didn't mention people like Gorgon or Mandarin. Also, this ranking is for hand to hand combat fighting ability with powers and all, not purely martial arts skill.)
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