Poll Is DC more overpowered than Marvel? (384 votes)
I think that some of the DC heroes like superman are way more overpowered than most of our Marvel heroes
I think that some of the DC heroes like superman are way more overpowered than most of our Marvel heroes
No. It's the opposite. It's clearly the opposite. The only thing DC has on Marvel is speed. Marvel, at any given time, has at least 5 planet busters (just off the top of my head) walking around earth along with a good amount of solar system busters, galaxy busters, reality warpers, matter manipulators, and plot devices literally all over the Marvel Universe. This thread is ridiculous because it's so far from the truth.
not really. Marvel most famous aren't the most powerful but that was their catch when they first started. Why we think Spidey is an everyman. They wanted to flagship not the greatest heroes but guys like you. That done changed alot and now the Avengers are pretty on par with the League. Everyone powers been boosted that now every man Spidey really can't be touched by even the Avengers.
I'll probably get tomatoes pelted at me by DC fanboys but for me the answer is, yes, a bit...
Marvel do have overpowered heroes who have cause some huge Marvel events, which has caused drastic changes in the MU but you don't see them on a everyday basis type thing. If the DC trinity decided to go against the MU, Marvel winning would be quite slim, unless you bring the Asgardians and the Cosmic beings/entities. The DC trinity has a human in it aswell...
Let's asses it this way...
Superman: His only weakness is a green rock...
Batman: Can get out of any situation...
Wonder Woman: Does she have a weakness?
Green Lantern: He can make virtually anything out of his ring!
Flash: They out ran death! DEATH!!!!
See what I mean?
I voted yes, because DC is known for having extremely powerful heroes on paper. I feel that DC's way of making people likeable is to have them the best there is. IMO, I think Marvel's heroes are unfortunately underestimated. Most of DC's heavy hitters seem to be unstoppable on paper. IMO, Batman is severely overrated and overpowered. Batman is a human but can take down super beings such as Superman with prep time. To me, that is overpowered. However I also think that Marvel has plenty of characters (Hulk, Rulk, Thor, Sentry, Ghost Rider, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, etc.) that could prove to beat many DC heroes, but when comparing Superman to a Marvel character on paper, Superman's gonna win due to speed, strength, and variety of powers. That is the main reason that I dislike DC and Superman.
I voted yes, because DC is known for having extremely powerful heroes on paper. I feel that DC's way of making people likeable is to have them the best there is. IMO, I think Marvel's heroes are unfortunately underestimated. Most of DC's heavy hitters seem to be unstoppable on paper. IMO, Batman is severely overrated and overpowered. Batman is a human but can take down super beings such as Superman with prep time. To me, that is overpowered. However I also think that Marvel has plenty of characters (Hulk, Rulk, Thor, Sentry, Ghost Rider, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, etc.) that could prove to beat many DC heroes, but when comparing Superman to a Marvel character on paper, Superman's gonna win due to speed, strength, and variety of powers. That is the main reason that I dislike DC and Superman.
So using your logic Dr. Doom and Iron Man are overrated because they're humans who can take down super beings with prep time. I mean going by feats "normal" humans like Doom and Stark are more powerful than Batman so if you think he's OP than they're too. Also Silver Surfer is much more powerful than Superman. The reason people think DC is more overpowered is because their most powerful characters are some of their most famous: Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Shazam/Captain Marvel. Whereas Marvels most famous are: Spider-Man, Wolverine, Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Thor. Where only Hulk and Thor are all that powerful.
@jack_donaghy: The reason I am saying Batman is OP is because he has the Batman factor. People say he wins because he has a plan for anything. But I would love to see his plan for dealing with Thor, Black Bolt, Sentry, or Silver Surfer. At his base, Batman is just at the peak of human abilities right? At Iron Man and Doom's base they are beyond the peak of human abilities. I don't know all the specifics of Batman, but from what I know his suit isn't extremely armored. A gun might not effect him but getting punched by a man who can move planets should kill him. Iron Man and Doom's armor have force fields, flight, lasers, and more. Iron Man has had the extremis abilities in the past which give him a healing factor and other abilities. Doom also is one of the people in line for Sorcerer Supreme and has a huge army of doombots. Not to mention that Iron Man and Doom are smarter than Batman. The reason that Iron Man and Doom can do what you said is because they can. Batman without prep is nothing compared to Doom without prep. Also, I completely agree with the fact SS beats Supes, and that DC's more famous characters are seen to be incredibly powerful. But as I said, there are plenty of less popular Marvel characters that can beat plenty of DC's characters.
@jack_donaghy: The reason I am saying Batman is OP is because he has the Batman factor. People say he wins because he has a plan for anything. But I would love to see his plan for dealing with Thor, Black Bolt, Sentry, or Silver Surfer. At his base, Batman is just at the peak of human abilities right? At Iron Man and Doom's base they are beyond the peak of human abilities. I don't know all the specifics of Batman, but from what I know his suit isn't extremely armored. A gun might not effect him but getting punched by a man who can move planets should kill him. Iron Man and Doom's armor have force fields, flight, lasers, and more. Iron Man has had the extremis abilities in the past which give him a healing factor and other abilities. Doom also is one of the people in line for Sorcerer Supreme and has a huge army of doombots. Not to mention that Iron Man and Doom are smarter than Batman. The reason that Iron Man and Doom can do what you said is because they can. Batman without prep is nothing compared to Doom without prep. Also, I completely agree with the fact SS beats Supes, and that DC's more famous characters are seen to be incredibly powerful. But as I said, there are plenty of less popular Marvel characters that can beat plenty of DC's characters.
See you're making my point for me Doom and Stark are only humans just like Batman but are far stronger. Of course Doom and Stark are stronger than Batman when they're in their armor. Physically speaking, no armor, Batman is much stronger than them. But Batman does have some powerful suits he has made to boost his abilities like the Hellbat armor. And not everybody says Batman wins because he has a plan for everything. That's is just something people who don't like Batman say his fans say when the majority don't think like that.
More powerful? Yes. More overpowered? No.
Looking at just the most mainstream characters, people like Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern are far more powerful than say Captain America, Spider-Man and Iron Man. However, by saying overpowered you suggest that they are too powerful to make for any kind of interesting stories, which they definitely aren't. Superman has been killed twice before, by Doomsday and Lex Luthor (although Lex wasn't canon), Wonder Woman has Ares as a villain, who is fuelled by conflict (meaning that the longer the fight lasts, the stronger he gets) and Green Lantern's arch-enemies also have power rings so they can match his strength.
I think the only real overpowered DC character is Batman. He has no powers and yet he can defeat anyone, even Superman (multiple times). Batman is the only character I can think of who can just do whatever the hell he wants with no chance of being defeated.
I guess I'd say Marvel's only real OP character is Hulk; since he gets stronger the angrier he gets, there must be a point where he is unbeatable by anyone.
So no, I don't really think that DC's characters are more overpowered than Marvel's. DC might have more powerhouses than Marvel with no as many Spider-Man types, but they all seem to be pretty well matched with their enemies.
@jack_donaghy: Iron Man and Doom are humans but as you just said, they are stronger than Batman. And saying that Batman is stronger than Doom and Iron Man without armor is like saying a fully rested Daredevil is stronger than Superman in the presence of kryptonite and a red sun. Batman has faced off against Superman and several other powerhouses and won because he is Batman. In a real fight, Superman would 1 hit KO Batman. Doom and Iron Man are stronger than Batman. As I said, Iron Man and Doom are stronger than Batman and should be able to do more than what Batman can.
@jack_donaghy: Iron Man and Doom are humans but as you just said, they are stronger than Batman. And saying that Batman is stronger than Doom and Iron Man without armor is like saying a fully rested Daredevil is stronger than Superman in the presence of kryptonite and a red sun. Batman has faced off against Superman and several other powerhouses and won because he is Batman. In a real fight, Superman would 1 hit KO Batman. Doom and Iron Man are stronger than Batman. As I said, Iron Man and Doom are stronger than Batman and should be able to do more than what Batman can.
Exactly so if you think Batman is overpowered than that means those 2 are also. I'm not denying that they're stronger than him you listed that Batman is overpowered for a human because he can take down superhumans with prep time. Doom and Stark are also humans who take down super beings with prep time. The only difference is that you listed Batman as overpowered but not those 2. So no offence but you're either biased against Batman or don't realize Doom and Stark being stronger than him by your definition would also make them overpowered.
More powerful? Yes. More overpowered? No.
Looking at just the most mainstream characters, people like Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern are far more powerful than say Captain America, Spider-Man and Iron Man. However, by saying overpowered you suggest that they are too powerful to make for any kind of interesting stories, which they definitely aren't. Superman has been killed twice before, by Doomsday and Lex Luthor (although Lex wasn't canon), Wonder Woman has Ares as a villain, who is fuelled by conflict (meaning that the longer the fight lasts, the stronger he gets) and Green Lantern's arch-enemies also have power rings so they can match his strength.
I think the only real overpowered DC character is Batman. He has no powers and yet he can defeat anyone, even Superman (multiple times). Batman is the only character I can think of who can just do whatever the hell he wants with no chance of being defeated.
I guess I'd say Marvel's only real OP character is Hulk; since he gets stronger the angrier he gets, there must be a point where he is unbeatable by anyone.
So no, I don't really think that DC's characters are more overpowered than Marvel's. DC might have more powerhouses than Marvel with no as many Spider-Man types, but they all seem to be pretty well matched with their enemies.
He's never beat Superman and even if he does why does that bother you? You just mentioned that Lex Luthor has killed Superman yet you only think Batman is OP? You act like if Batman were to beat Superman it would be in a h2h fight. No he'd use tech and prep just like fellow human Lex would. Or is it conveniently not PIS and Lexwank when Lex is able to fight Superman? And no chance of being defeated are you kidding? Lets forget the time Bane broke his back. And of course he wins a lot ALL major heroes win a majority of the time. Someone like Reed Richards is much more OP than Batman he can pull any plot device out of thin air to save the day.
This bias against Batman on this forum is getting out of control.
@jack_donaghy: Bias against Batman? Dude, I love Batman, I have a whole freakin shelf of Batman, rivalled only by my Green Lantern collection. I never said I didn't like Batman, I love him, and he has a lot of great stories, but there is no denying that he is overpowered. I mean, look at the rest of the Justice League: Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash... there is no way somebody without powers should be able to keep up with those guys, and yet Batman is one of the most important members of the team. I'm not saying Batman shouldn't be in the JL or that he shouldn't be useful to them because I love seeing him kick ass with the rest of the team, all I'm saying is that when you really think about it, it's kind of ridiculous.
When Lex killed Superman it wasn't in a fist fight, he killed him with Kryptonite poisoning. When Batman beats Superman it's always in a fight. Granted he cheats a lot in those fights, but he still probably shouldn't be able to logically (but then I guess nothing in comics would happen "logically").
I was going to say "except Bane" when I said about nobody being able to defeat Batman, but to be fair Batman was already sick, and then he had to go up against every one of his villains one after the other; when Bane beat him it was right after a sick Batman had fought Joker, Riddler, Scarecrow, Ventriloquist, Mad Hatter, Poison Ivy and a bunch of other villains back to back for several nights; he wasn't exactly at full capacity when they fought.
Like I said, I love Batman and I don't necessarily think him being overpowered is a bad thing, all I'm saying is that there is no denying that he IS overpowered.
@jack_donaghy: With Batman's skills and weapons, he shouldn't be on par with Iron Fist, Captain America, hawkeye, and those type of people. With Iron Man's skills and weapons, he is a bigger threat. The same with Doom. The main thing that I'm saying is, Batman is an overrated character. His strength is less than Captain America, his intelligence is less than Hank Pym (IMO), and his fighting skill is about Iron Fist and others like him. When compared to Superman, Batman is nothing. Yet his writers make him more than he is. He is overpowered because he doesn't use magic or like Doom, he doesn't have the abilities of Iron Man (in their basic gear), he doesn't use the same tech as them. But Batman still does the impossible. When I say he is over powered, I mean he is doing things he shouldn't be able to do and is overrated. Doom and Iron Man have the ability to do more than Batman. Yet they are considered underrated by many.
@jack_donaghy: Bias against Batman? Dude, I love Batman, I have a whole freakin shelf of Batman, rivalled only by my Green Lantern collection. I never said I didn't like Batman, I love him, and he has a lot of great stories, but there is no denying that he is overpowered. I mean, look at the rest of the Justice League: Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash... there is no way somebody without powers should be able to keep up with those guys, and yet Batman is one of the most important members of the team. I'm not saying Batman shouldn't be in the JL or that he shouldn't be useful to them because I love seeing him kick ass with the rest of the team, all I'm saying is that when you really think about it, it's kind of ridiculous.
When Lex killed Superman it wasn't in a fist fight, he killed him with Kryptonite poisoning. When Batman beats Superman it's always in a fight. Granted he cheats a lot in those fights, but he still probably shouldn't be able to logically (but then I guess nothing in comics would happen "logically").
I was going to say "except Bane" when I said about nobody being able to defeat Batman, but to be fair Batman was already sick, and then he had to go up against every one of his villains one after the other; when Bane beat him it was right after a sick Batman had fought Joker, Riddler, Scarecrow, Ventriloquist, Mad Hatter, Poison Ivy and a bunch of other villains back to back for several nights; he wasn't exactly at full capacity when they fought.
Like I said, I love Batman and I don't necessarily think him being overpowered is a bad thing, all I'm saying is that there is no denying that he IS overpowered.
Not you specifically but this forum does nothing but complain about how overrated Batman is, at this point he's more underrated than overrated. And so what if Batman gets in a fist fight with Superman? Does he win them? No then what's the problem?
@jack_donaghy: With Batman's skills and weapons, he shouldn't be on par with Iron Fist, Captain America, hawkeye, and those type of people. With Iron Man's skills and weapons, he is a bigger threat. The same with Doom. The main thing that I'm saying is, Batman is an overrated character. His strength is less than Captain America, his intelligence is less than Hank Pym (IMO), and his fighting skill is about Iron Fist and others like him. When compared to Superman, Batman is nothing. Yet his writers make him more than he is. He is overpowered because he doesn't use magic or like Doom, he doesn't have the abilities of Iron Man (in their basic gear), he doesn't use the same tech as them. But Batman still does the impossible. When I say he is over powered, I mean he is doing things he shouldn't be able to do and is overrated. Doom and Iron Man have the ability to do more than Batman. Yet they are considered underrated by many.
The Leader has the ability to do more than Doom but Doom has done more impressive tech feats that's Doomwanking wouldn't you agree? Doom and Stark should NOT be smarter than the Leader but you don't have a problem with that. When compared to Superman lots of people are nothing even characters like the Hulk. His main enemy Lex Luthor is using your logic nothing compared to him. But you're not going to cry about how overrated a normal human like Lex fighting Superman is. I bet you don't think a normal human with an ice gun (Captain Cold) fighting a man who can run at light spreed (the Flash) is overrated. You also severely underrate Batman but no shock there lets just ignore all the great tech he's made that has allowed him to fight superhumans. And if anything Doom is the overrated one he wins pretty much every battle he's in prep or no prep. People think he could beat Zoom even without prep, now that's overrated. I'm sure if Doom was as popular as Batman was you'd say he's overrated.
marvels most popular heroes are just weaker than dc's most popular heroes, for the exception of batman
@modunhanul: And also they have One above all, the beyonder,eternity,silver surfer..
One above all could kill every dc hero in a blink...
@shenaldilmith: hey don't mention one above all dude, he's a god and not super hero
DC only has that impression being more overpowered cause it's overpopulated with all kinds and varieties of Supermen clones, and let's face it, there LOTS of them. But then, everything is relative, let's just take a look at Marvel Earth based underdog species, the muties. One is a Prime host of maybe MULITIVERSAL cosmic representation, two are at least universal reality warpers, too many are even afraid (or just to stupid to properly use) of their true potential limits of which we don't know. That's juts the underdogs in a shallow outlook. What about the more definitive space?
Yeah, I can see a better case made for Marvel actually.
I voted DC but with a HUGE ASTERISK. Pre-52 DC heroes had ridiculous feats of speed, strength, and durability that made their villain fights seem like PIS and CIS. In fact, DC Comics should have legally copyrighted the name "IS Comics". Batman villains spend more money on their crimes than the money they net, and Batman can't seem to figure how Joker manufactures, procures, or distributes the gas he uses in his crimes. Nor can the intelligence services of any of the countries in the DCU. But I digress.... (because that could have easily worked to figure out who Batman's identity was as well)....
Since the New 52, the DC heroes have been written as less powerful. And the current version of Superman is basically a White Luke Cage. He's Clark Cage. Wonder Woman can't breathe in space, so I guess the most powerful hero on Earth is now Apollo (formerly of Stormwatch) or Martian Manhunter (formerly of Stormwatch, before it started to suck)?
DC has more powerful heroes who are used often however Marvel Universe is way overpowered compared to DC just look the Celestials for goodness sake a race of billions of universal beings
the way i see it if the character can't defeat superman they are not overpowered. marvel is not overpowered but dc is so overpowered it's not funny i mean how the hell can n alien take on a god!!?? superman shouldn't be able to beat any gods.
In terms of most popular characters , DC's popular characters are pretty damn strong and it makes it seem like marvels are weaker. Such as WW, supes, GL, Flash, Manhunter, shazam, aquaman, batman etc. Compared to Spiderman, Wolverine, deadpool, ironman, cap america, vision, hawkeye, and then the only really popular powerful characters in marvel are Hulk, Thor and Silver Surfer. Dc is good at making it seem like they're more OP but in reality if you look at the rest of each universe they're about even in terms of power and ability
@xxironspiderxx: True.
DC's Main & Popular Characters possess Godly like capabilities......Flash is a conduit to speed able to move FTL, Demi God Amazon, SapceCop with Ring of unlimited energy conceptions, Alien who's physiology allows him to be Uber Etc Etc
So Yes, Their greatest dangers & feats relatively compared to Regular Earth Dangers & supernatural feats they are Overpowered...
Marvel's main characters are more grounded......Traumatized & Angry scientist turns Into Monster when mad; Billionaire genius Arms dealer builds high tech metallic armor; Scientist invents Particles to shrink & grow things; God from mythology
Yes Each have overpowered Characters Marvel is not void of these Godly like characters; But DC I believe just likes their stories to be told in such a grand scale....While Marvel attempts to make it more relative that Humans majority can't handle such grand powers so well; As DC has Human characters doing things grander than their entirety.
DC is not more overpowered than Marvel because Marvel has Reed Richards who is now Omnipotent and can pull wins out of his ass any time he wants to against anyone from DC. Even the Presence can't beat him because the Presence may not be fully Omnipotent as it was stated that he was shaped by external forces. The only one who would even stand a chance against "Suggsverse" level Reed Richards right now is TOAA but The One Above All is technically also Marvel as he is supposed to be the writers and editors of Marvel. Doesn't matter as Captain Marvel Billy Batson from DC kicks all of their asses!!! SHAZAM!!! :) Billy Batson TNOAA aka "Billy219" aka "Billy Le" aka "Glen Le" aka "Q. Le" born Feb 19 in Saigon, Vietnam on the planet Earth and is now living a normal, simple and quiet life somewhere in the Canada! Just kidding!!! Hahaha!!! NOT!!! Actually, he is dead. After today, he won't even exist anymore so don't even try to find him! LOL!!! :)
DC has more (due to having more planets) but marvel has more powerful characters & Marvels don't depend on strength. Like Pheonix, Quasar, Hela and Nova prime
At face value it might seem like it, but they have their share of characters. Marvel has Abstracts, Celestials, Galactus, LT and then they're known for their teambusters. D.C. seems to have more high tiers on their verse and speedsters.
DC just has more A-list characters who are powerhouses. They overall have better high tiers and teambusters. Marvel has better Heralds (just look at all those Heralds of Galactus) and definitely better Abstract level characters. Street tier is debatable but I prefer Marvel's street levellers. Anyway, just because most of DC's superhero teams have more high tiers than Marvel's teams does not make them more powerful than Marvel. Sure, JLA is usually more powerful than the Avengers when you take a look at more consistent rosters, but come on, both universes are well balanced when it comes to the number of characters on each tier. None is more powerful than the other.
@krleavenger: good reasoning.
I have sent you a PM, I had some doubts. I hope you can reply. Its regarding Flash.
@empressofdread: Sure.
No. The only one overpowered is superman and that's why everybody hates him. In Marvel you've got SS, RR, DD, Magneto, Jean, Ego, Galactus, Dormammu, Wanda. The funny thing is they probably solos superman and they are still not that annoying as him.
Out of the Big 6 for both companies you have
Superman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman and Wonder Woman for DC
Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, Wolverine and Thor for Marvel.
Other than Batman all the DC characters are high tier/heralds or power houses whereas Marvel only has 2 (Hulk/Thor) and Iron Man is decent enough but the rest dont come close.
Even if you look at just the primary teams the Justice League completely blows the Avengers out of the water if you include Martian Manhunter and Vision and replace Spidey/Wolvie with Widow and Hawkeye.
But other than that they’re fairly equal.
nope they are equally strong
only place where dc has advantage is composite abstract level characters
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