@jnr6lil: what's hilarious here is that you are totally missing the fact that I have said, over and over again, that I imagine its all changed. I even typed it in capitals to make it clear, but apparently its not going to get through, so I'm just going to give up on that. We are talking about why people think that Marvel is more relatable than DC and I have made a case that Marvel made a conscious effort to make their characters more flawed and human. THIS is what makes characters relatable. Its commonly understood in writing. You can relate to a character's cause but that doesn't mean you relate to the personality and the humanity of the character.
Its what we are all taught in writing at college. What a character stands for is nowhere near as important as their personality, their flaws and their downfalls...when it comes to relatability.
Here's a quote from Louis D' Esposito, the producer and director of a number of superhero films on his choice to do mainly Marvel movies- "They're not perfect characters. They're very relatable. They're interesting without their superpowers. People, when they walk into the movie theater, they come from all walks of life. They can have that relatability. You put yourself in their shoes. You live vicariously through them. "
THAT is what is important to Marvel readers! They have to be interesting characters that you would find interesting even if they were just working in K-mart and pushing trolleys.
DC has compared their JLA to greek gods and have concentrated on their characters being the biggest. They have the fastest, the most powerful, the most everything pretty much (we can debate the Hulk some other time) and that is exciting! But ask yourself why Marvel, coming after Superman and Batman, didn't just make their characters MORE powerful and MORE perfect. Its just not what makes a really good character in the long run and hey, I guess it shows in the sales of books.
Actually as a little aside to this, I was talking to a creator at a convention here about a month ago and though I won't say who, I will give you a choice- Nicola Scott, Gail Simone, Terry Dodson, Tom Taylor, Billy Tan, Dave Gibbons, Colin Wilson and Joe Jusko. Its one of those, but I don't want to start any trouble between creators and employers so I won't say who. Anyway, they said that they thought the new 52 showed a failure by DC in their ability to write interesting stories with their characters. He/she said that continuity shouldn't be a problem for good writers of good characters and that they were bummed that DC felt the need to wipe the slate every 20 or so years like they did with Crisis years ago.
Oh and I wouldn't say I'm out of touch with DC. I do pick up a superman here and there, also a batman and I read some of the new 52 for a few issues to see what the hype was about, but DC just hasn't done anything to get me interested in reading more. But hey, I'm glad other people are into them and I hope DC does well.
Basically, enjoy your books. If they fullfill your needs and you enjoy them, then good. A lot of people like both DC and Marvel and though I read mostly Marvel, Darkhorse and even Vertigo (well...until they recently watered down Constantine and made a kiddy version), I get that. I do like the DC characters. I like the movies and I can't wait for the new Superman film, but when it comes to relatability, I have, IN THE PAST AND IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, found Marvel more so.
Basically its a personal opinion, if a personal opinion that a google search shows many people share, and I'm pretty sure neither of us is going to change ours. What books do you currently read out of interest?
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