Thanos vs Hulk - 2014 Mini

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Just thought we should make a new topic for this particular discussion rather than jamming everything into that "Hulk 2014" thread. Its not like this forum couldnt do with some lively threads anyways..

I'll kick it off by reprinting the recent Starlin interview that seems to have provoked some talk:

CBR News: Jim, you've written the Hulk a number of times during your career, usually in guest spots but occasionally in bigger roles like the hilarious original graphic novel you did with Bernie Wrightson, "The Incredible Hulk and the Thing: The Big Change." How does it feel to return to the character? What do you enjoy most about writing the Hulk?

Jim Starlin: I was a kid when Kirby and Lee first introduced the Hulk. That book didn't last long but ol' Greenie soon came back in the first issues of the "Avengers" and later "Tales to Astonish" (if I remember correctly). He was easily my favorite comic character back then. I loved the rage that erupted from the Hulk almost as much as I feared and hated the rage bubbling around in my own teenage self. He was a great psychic vent and I immensely enjoy revisiting him occasionally.

Since "Thanos Vs. Hulk" was originally slated to be an arc of "Savage Hulk," we know this story takes place somewhere in the Hulk's past. Which version of the Hulk will readers see in your story? Is this the classic savage version of the character? And will Bruce Banner play a role in this tale?

I based this tale's Hulk on Mark Waid's current "Indestructible Hulk," but with a bit longer hair. I liked Waid's take on the character because the level of the Hulk's smarts changes with each transition. So I was able to write my favorite, the thick-as-brick Hulk in a modern setting, with a few extra frills tossed in.

What can you tell us about your visual interpretation of the Hulk? Which of the Green Goliath's character traits do you really want to capture and bring forward in your depictions of him?

I don't tend to think that way. Telling an interesting and entertaining story is my goal. The plot determines how you represent a character. So this Hulk is your familiar lumbering brute but with some softer edges, brought on by the more humorous aspects of the story.

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Hulk is just one of the title characters in this miniseries. Let's talk a little bit about the other, Thanos. What made you want to pit the Hulk against the Mad Titan? And what sets off the conflict they engage in?

Well, anyone who has followed my career at Marvel will know that when I come back to do work with them, though it might look like I'm doing a Captain Marvel, Warlock or Silver Surfer series, in reality I've returned to do another Thanos story.

In this case, Annihilus and Blastaar have something Pip the Troll dearly wants and they'll only trade it for Bruce Banner. The troll goes for the deal but then suffers buyer's remorse. But Pip doesn't have the muscle to take on Blastaar and Annihilus so he decides to call upon someone who does.

How do your title characters regard each other when this story starts? Does Thanos truly understand what the Hulk is capable of? Or does he sort of look down on the character because of his intellect?

On Thanos' side I imagine it's a mix of respect and distain. He would somewhat respect Banner for being one of Earth's premier minds. But on the other hand the Hulk's lack of intellectual curiosity would quickly bore the Titan. But he'd be wary of the brute because of that infinite rage thing he has going. Banner would think of the Titan as nothing but a menace, to be defeated or escaped from.

Earlier you talked about Pip the Troll setting this story in motion and Pip, like Thanos, is a character you created. How does it feel to return to Pip? What can you tell us about his larger role in the story?

Actually, this is as much a Pip the Troll story as it is a Hulk or Thanos tale. In fact I think he appears in the series more often than the Titan does. The entire yarn sort of revolves around our lovable cretin. He's always been one of my favorite characters to play with. His immorality never fails to amuse.

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Pip brings the Hulk to space, but where does the conflict go from there? What else can you tell us about the settings of "Thanos Vs. Hulk?"

Seeing that Blastaar and Annihilus are in the story, you should expect to spend a little time in the Negative Zone. The tale starts off on Earth, stops by Starlin's Bar (What a surprise!) and visits what may or may not be Bruce Banner's psyche.

Let's talk a little more about the look of this miniseries. You recently wrote and drew Thanos in the surreal graphic novel, "The Infinity Revelation." How will the visuals of this miniseries compare to that? I assume they'll be less psychedelic...

Yes, this story is set more in material existence, except for the Banner psyche sequence. Most of the tale will take place in the Negative Zone, which I imagine to be one of the last places in the universe one would choose to holiday at.

Finally, "Thanos Vs. Hulk" is part of the larger Thanos story you've been telling in the "Thanos Annual" and the "Thanos: The Infinity Revelation" graphic novel, correct? How new reader friendly is this miniseries?

All you have to do is know who the Hulk and Thanos are in order to get into this series. As with the "Thanos Annual" and "TTIR," the "Thanos Vs. Hulk" series is a self-contained unit. You can read it without having read the previous tales but it's, nevertheless, still part of the same grand tale I'm telling this stay at Marvel.

With the completion of "Thanos Vs. Hulk," I have the Titan, Warlock, Pip, Blastaar and Annihilus positioned exactly where I want them to be for my next Marvel tale, which I am currently working on. But it's too early to talk about it, So it'll just have to wait until our next interview, Dave.

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#2  Edited By Bezza

..brave for setting this thread up, as Thanos v Hulk has lit the blue touch paper on another thread! Anyway, interesting read and I for one look forward to this book.

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Looking forward to this, whilst I doubt it'll involve much "thanos vs hulk" I'm looking forward to hulk going up against guys like blastaar and annihilus. And of course the mad Titan himself.

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I'm looking forward to it. Mostly because...

1) Jim Starlin loves and respects Hulk as a character and his infinite strength/power

2) He's the only person who can write Thanos

3) He'll give both characters major respect

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@greenscar1990:

Out of interest, you don't like how Hickman writes Thanos?

Thanos is actually one of those characters I have no comics or books about. Thinking of getting one of the classic TPs....

In the meantime, there's some great Hulk stuff out now and coming up. What a difference from six months ago when we were all really down over Waid's comic!!

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@bezza said:

@greenscar1990:

Out of interest, you don't like how Hickman writes Thanos?

Thanos is actually one of those characters I have no comics or books about. Thinking of getting one of the classic TPs....

In the meantime, there's some great Hulk stuff out now and coming up. What a difference from six months ago when we were all really down over Waid's comic!!

The bad thing is a lot of Hulk new stuff is based on Waid's Hulk. Thats why i see Hulk getting stomped bad.

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Doc Green will be an insane character... :o

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@bonifidehustla:

The Savage Hulk comic isn't really based on anything Waid has done. I think as this Is Starlin writing Thanos and Hulk, a character he loves, it wont be a stomp.

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#11  Edited By thedailybagel  Moderator

@bezza: starlin said he'd be using waids hulk.

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@thedailybagel: well actually what I got from the interview was that he was told to read Waid's run and then realised he could just write the Savage Hulk.

I don't think Waid really "had a Hulk" so much as it was just a kind of Savage Hulk somewhat under Banner's influence that gradually got more verbal as the Avengers movie receded into the distance. The same character was written as much more classic Savage Hulk under Hickman for example.

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@thedailybagel: In what sense? He was insanely durable, yeah, but Waid didn't given any worthy threats to suggest he's anywhere near the levels of the Green Scar, let alone the Savage or Gray Hulk/Joe Fixit.

@fifthchild: I was thinking the same thing. I believe he'll most ignore Waid's run and just write his version of the Savage Hulk. It's definitely for the better, 'cause Waid's mediocre Hulk left a lot to be desired.