Hulkbuster v Hulk or armored Batman v Superman

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Which battle will be more epic: Hulkbuster Ironman (with Tony Stark in the suit) vs. Hulk from Avengers: age of Ultron or armored Batman vs. Superman from Batman v Superman: dawn of justice? Give reasons why, who will win in each battle and also state who has the better armor Wayne or Stark?

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Oh Iron Man will be allowed to win in Avengers 2, as an example of yet more Iron Man W***ery, but as for Bats v Supes, I really am not sure yet....

I guess the Hulkbuster will be more impressive and Bats will use more than just armour, such as sonics, kryptonite to battle supes...

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@bezza: I cant see Tony winning.

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@kgb725:

This is Marvel cinematic universe where Iron Man can duke it out with Thor, Tony can build Ultron and Hulkbuster suited Iron Man can no doubt beat the green goliath...

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@bezza: He wasnt winning against Thor. And tony has fought thor in the comics as well. If hulk fights iron man he will most likely be fighting the team

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@kgb725:

Well in the comics, regular Iron Man got trashed by Thor, but movie Iron Man held his own against movie Thor. Anyway I hope you're right, but call me a cynic, I think it'll be Iron Man neutralising the Hulk in his trick hulk buster armour, just to keep RDJ sweet!

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#7  Edited By Knightfall225

Im more excited for the Batman vs superman fight , but I think since the Hulk and the Hulkbuster are so giant , it will look cool on screen.

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If Hulk loses I will be ticked.

Batman vs Superman to answer your question. It better be... judging from the title of the film.

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I think that Batman v Superman fight will be more exciting to watch. I see that fight being much more dynamic where as the Hulk v Hulkbuster fight will just be two big thing hitting each other. I think Batman will win the fight, but it will take everything he has to do it. Superman will recover fairly quickly after while Batman is still worn out.

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To all who responded, thanks! I always love to hear what other folks think.

My 2 cents on who should win are Hulk and Superman, but I fear the outcome might be Ironman and Batman.

Who has the better armor Stark or Wayne? I say Stark is better equipped.

Which battle will be more epic? Superman vs Batman will be more epic because Snyder does NOT hold back when it comes to these battles. Just look at Supes vs. Faora and Supes vs. Zod those battle were visually off the hook. Now Whedon's Ironman vs. Thor was OK but, Hulk vs. Thor could have been longer and it didn't really show both there powers well like Supes vs. Zod. My money is on a better looking battle with Superman vs. Batman.

I just hope that when the Hulkbuster Ironman fights Hulk it's not just punch for punch, but Stark using lasers, sonic, repulsor ray, chest plate unibeam and Hulk taking it. With Hulk clearly getting stronger to overcome Stark. I just hope this battle is long and NOT short like Hulk vs.Thor battle.

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The outcome of the battle between Hulk and Hulkbuster in Avengers: age of Ultron according to Wiki........SPOILER ALERT...

don't read beyond this point..........( I guess Batman will beat Superman also being as Bats is more popular ) Stark defeats Hulk. Hulk fans what's your thoughts if this is true. Wow this is the huge part Hulk will have in Avengers only to be defeated by a Hulkbuster? Which by way in the comics Hulkbuster has never won against the Hulk, thanks Kevin Feige for short changing the Hulk.

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#12  Edited By MAZAHS117

Batman vs Superman

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#13  Edited By bonifidehustla

@hulk465 said:

The outcome of the battle between Hulk and Hulkbuster in Avengers: age of Ultron according to Wiki........SPOILER ALERT...

Thanks for letting me know. I told people they would do this in the movies now I wont see the movie. I'll wait for blu-ray or when it goes digital.

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here's how the Hulk/Buster fight will go

Hulk almost kills Tony after he puts up a fight, then Black Widow calms him down

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Heres how LGU described the Hulk/Hulkbuster scene from Alvaro's:

"It was pretty clear that Tony was a massive underdog even with the extra armour. He does take Hulk out, but it's courtesy of a sucker punch to the back of the head. Stark drops a skyscraper on Hulk, who gets back up but in the process, the mind control is broken. As a confused Hulk surveys the devastation he has caused, Stark smacks him from behind and cleanly KO'd him."

and:

"Hulk is KO'd with one massive sucker punch, after he has shaken the mind control and is distracted. It's nothing like a straight KO. Prior to Hulk losing focus, he was tanking Stark's best punches like nothing - he even shrugged off having whole skyscraper dropped on his head. I can't see any reason why a Hulk fan would not love this fight - he was clearly portrayed as more powerful than Stark throughout."

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#16  Edited By AtheistKnowledge

@fifthchild: Well that's disappointing. Not because of the outcome so much but because they once again pander to Tony Stark as the hero of these movies.

It's also pointless to say Hulk has been portrayed as the more powerful when the only thing people will care is who KO'd who.

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#17  Edited By Schwarz

Doesn't matter, movies aren't cannon. Look at what movies did to Transformers, Ninja Turtles, Street fighter, Mario brothers. It is all good a light hearted fun but it is well known that they never actually follow a real timeline. I am pretty sure we will see Hulk bend ultron's face with a smash.

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@fifthchild: Well that's disappointing. Not because of the outcome so much but because they once again pander to Tony Stark as the hero of these movies.

It's also pointless to say Hulk has been portrayed as the more powerful when the only thing people will care is who KO'd who.C

Careful with spoilers.

At any rate I'll wait to see it myself before judging. You cant help what other people are going to say so theres no point getting too upset about that but i'm curious if it seems like Hulk lost in large part because he shook off the mind control or purely because of a good sucker punch, without reading too much into it or viewing it through jade coloured lenses.

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@fifthchild: It really doesn't matter, the outcome is all the same anyway and it's still disappointing. If Hulkbuster > Hulk than what's the point of even having Hulk? Why doesn't Tony just use the Hulkbuster armor all the time it would make him a lot more powerful.

Yea i know i need to see the scene for myself but i feel like i don't even need to, it's RDJ and as much as i love the guy his character is given way too much credit just based on popularity alone, he shouldn't really compete with either Hulk or Thor but he did that in both Avengers movies now and i find it kinda ironic that in the 20+ history of Hulkbusters failing to ever beat Hulk, the one time that they do it's in a movie hah.

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@fifthchild: It really doesn't matter, the outcome is all the same anyway and it's still disappointing. If Hulkbuster > Hulk than what's the point of even having Hulk? Why doesn't Tony just use the Hulkbuster armor all the time it would make him a lot more powerful.

Well it all depends on the way the scene is presented - plenty of people have beaten characters who unquestionably were >>> than them. From what LGU is saying at least Hulk seems to be the more powerful of the two while raging about, despite the outcome. But again I'll have to see it for myself to see if I agree.

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#21  Edited By bonifidehustla

Like somebody said they give Iron Man way too much credit. Creating Ultron and beating Hulk. I wouldnt be surprised if he is the hero in Thor 3. That Marvel way got to make sure humans surpass gods and meta type humans. Hopefully DC dont f up the Batman vs Superman fight. People only care about what gadgets Tony suits do not him being the strongest member.

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@atheistknowledge said:

@fifthchild: It really doesn't matter, the outcome is all the same anyway and it's still disappointing. If Hulkbuster > Hulk than what's the point of even having Hulk? Why doesn't Tony just use the Hulkbuster armor all the time it would make him a lot more powerful.

Well it all depends on the way the scene is presented - plenty of people have beaten characters who unquestionably were >>> than them. From what LGU is saying at least Hulk seems to be the more powerful of the two while raging about, despite the outcome. But again I'll have to see it for myself to see if I agree.

Yes i will definitely need to see the entire fight but from what we saw and they did show us an extensive clip honestly they seemed pretty evenly matched and then of course there will be those that say Hulkbuster held back and such. So i dunno where the Hulk suddenly appeared as the more powerful but it certainly didn't seem like that from the clips alone.

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@hulk465: @schwarz: @fifthchild: @bonifidehustla: @atheistknowledge: From what I've read and understand, Hulk was too much for the Hulkbuster throughout the fight. Tanking its best blows and overpowering it numerous times. It was only when Scarlet Witch's control was broken, after Hulk shrugged off getting an entire skyscraper dropped on his head, and he began to basically calm down to the point of nearly reverting back to Banner that the Hulkbuster laid in a powerful sneak-attack/sucker-punch.

I assume I am correct?

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Yeah I assume thats how it went. Wish we could get a Planet Hulk movie but so much cgi. Probably would be better if the just animate the whole movie.

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@hulk465: @schwarz: @fifthchild: @bonifidehustla: @atheistknowledge: From what I've read and understand, Hulk was too much for the Hulkbuster throughout the fight. Tanking its best blows and overpowering it numerous times. It was only when Scarlet Witch's control was broken, after Hulk shrugged off getting an entire skyscraper dropped on his head, and he began to basically calm down to the point of nearly reverting back to Banner that the Hulkbuster laid in a powerful sneak-attack/sucker-punch.

I assume I am correct?

Sorry guys, it wasn't quite like that. Tony has a few tricks up his sleeve. Not sure how much you want to know, but whilst the Hulk does start to get the upper hand as the fight goes on, he is certainly given a tough time by Tony Stark. See my post 8 months ago on this thread, I did warn you what would happen.

Batman looks good however for next years fight with Supes

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#26  Edited By Fifthchild

@bezza said:
@greenscar1990 said:

@hulk465: @schwarz: @fifthchild: @bonifidehustla: @atheistknowledge: From what I've read and understand, Hulk was too much for the Hulkbuster throughout the fight. Tanking its best blows and overpowering it numerous times. It was only when Scarlet Witch's control was broken, after Hulk shrugged off getting an entire skyscraper dropped on his head, and he began to basically calm down to the point of nearly reverting back to Banner that the Hulkbuster laid in a powerful sneak-attack/sucker-punch.

I assume I am correct?

Sorry guys, it wasn't quite like that. Tony has a few tricks up his sleeve. Not sure how much you want to know, but whilst the Hulk does start to get the upper hand as the fight goes on, he is certainly given a tough time by Tony Stark. See my post 8 months ago on this thread, I did warn you what would happen.

Batman looks good however for next years fight with Supes

I have no problem with Hulkbuster giving hulk a fight (hell it gave WWH a good fight for a while). I dont like the idea of HB IM koing a angry Hulk, sucker punch or not i have to admit. So depending on how that scene looks to me will make a big difference to how i feel about it.

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Whatever the outcome Iron Man will come out looking "cooler" or "going over," even if Hulk trashes the armor. They'll include some sort of plot-device where Tony tricks Hulk or something to that effect. Same way when he fought Thor. Sure, Thor is much stronger and much more durable but everything about that scene made Tony Stark look cooler. He made fun of the Asgardian speech pattern. He sort of tanked a Mjolnir throw, absorbed a pretty large lightning strike and redirected it, is a faster flyer than Thor and for some reason more battle-savvy.

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Whatever the outcome Iron Man will come out looking "cooler" or "going over," even if Hulk trashes the armor. They'll include some sort of plot-device where Tony tricks Hulk or something to that effect. Same way when he fought Thor. Sure, Thor is much stronger and much more durable but everything about that scene made Tony Stark look cooler. He made fun of the Asgardian speech pattern. He sort of tanked a Mjolnir throw, absorbed a pretty large lightning strike and redirected it, is a faster flyer than Thor and for some reason more battle-savvy.

You got it one, Iron Man isn't allowed to lose, must be in RDJ's contract. This Hulk doesn't seem to get stronger as he gets angrier. IMO, an angry Hulk would rip apart Iron Man armour fairly, but that's not what we see here....I was pretty depressed about Hulk's role in Avengers AOU tbh,, as a Hulk fan spoiled what is a good movie, slightly.

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only time will tell

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Batsy vs Supes fight for the win! It was brutal, and almost made me cry due to Batman's overpowering. Hulkbuster vs Hulk was just an unnecessary and excessive destruction porn..

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Wow ...now that I have seen Batman vs. Superman I'm kinda disappointed with the film. It did NOT live up to expectations or hype that folks were talking about for almost 3 years. The film itself is not as bad as some would say but it's not as great either. As for which battle was better for me (to my surprise) was Hulk vs. Hulkbuster. I thought the battle between Bats and Supes was good but kinda short ( I guess I expected more after seeing Man of Steel ). The funny thing is that both films for me were just GOOD not great and a bit disappointing. So far Daredevil season 2 is the winner this year, followed by Deadpool and then Batman vs. Superman. I hope that Civil War delivers what Batman vs. Superman fail to do.

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I'd add onto this that the Hulk was distracted, and also about to lunge at the military men when he was punched.

Another thing was, after he snapped out of mind control, he had no idea he was in the middle of a fight with Hulkbuster.

He didn't get very angry/stressed from the military men, and you clearly saw him getting depressed/sad/confused after breaking out of the rubble.

He also broke through the mind control- his anger made him break free of it, but after breaking free, he was basically confused and sad/depressed looking.

One notable thing was, there was a move that Tony did earlier in the fight which was much more powerful than the punch at the end that seemingly KO'd the Hulk.

There was that scene where Tony smashed an elevator on top of the Hulk's head, then IMMEDIATELY followed it up with a swinging sucker punch to the back of the head. Then Hulk had an angry look on his face and spit out a tooth. The sucker punch during that scene was clearly a much stronger one than the one in the end of the fight, because in that earlier scene Tony was actually using his boosters to propel him towards the Hulk before landing that punch, vs. the end scene sucker punch where Tony was just standing straight. It really shows you the difference in durability between the angrier Hulk and the distracted Hulk in the ending scene.

All that stuff aside, some of the comments are right, most people don't pay attention to those small details and only pay attention to whoever LOOKED like the winner. But funny thing is, I know people that got really excited after that Hulkbuster AOU fight, that also got really down after the Civil war Captain America fight. Pretty much anyone that believed Hulkbuster "won" in the AOU fight, also believed that Captain America "won" in the Civil war fight. The difference in moods after seeing both movies was funny to see though.

Also, in response to OP, I think their armors were pretty close in durability, but Starks armor was better offensively (Batman's offense was based on kryptonite tech). Batman's suit was basically purely for defense from what I remember while Ironman's suit was meant for improved offense and defense. I think the way the Batman Superman fight went was okay, they made it pretty clear that Superman was showing Batman mercy like when he used his heat vision to take down the machines, but never shot Batman with it, and when they later had Superman even mention "If I wanted it, you'd be dead already". Then they had Superman knock him away with a wrist flick, and then after seeing that the suit was intact, he drove him up the building. It was like Superman was trying to break the suit off of him, but not actually hurt him or severely injure him. The coolest parts of that fight was how Superman kept fighting him even when he was weakened/depowered, and when the depowered Superman tanking Batman's punches to the face. But just like with the other fights, people actually think Batman really "beat" Superman.

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Heres how LGU described the Hulk/Hulkbuster scene from Alvaro's:

"It was pretty clear that Tony was a massive underdog even with the extra armour. He does take Hulk out, but it's courtesy of a sucker punch to the back of the head. Stark drops a skyscraper on Hulk, who gets back up but in the process, the mind control is broken. As a confused Hulk surveys the devastation he has caused, Stark smacks him from behind and cleanly KO'd him."

and:

"Hulk is KO'd with one massive sucker punch, after he has shaken the mind control and is distracted. It's nothing like a straight KO. Prior to Hulk losing focus, he was tanking Stark's best punches like nothing - he even shrugged off having whole skyscraper dropped on his head. I can't see any reason why a Hulk fan would not love this fight - he was clearly portrayed as more powerful than Stark throughout."

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