Comic Book Rape...

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#1  Edited By DEGRAAF

is it true Black Cat, Cat Woman, Sue Dibney and Dick Grayson were all raped? I think i remember reading about the last two. This is very unappealing. Even when it is in comics or movies or books, it just pisses me off and makes me want to stop reading or watching whatever it is that has it and and burn the medium its on. Does this bother any one else?

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#2  Edited By Erik
@DEGRAAF:  
Black Cat was. It is part of her origin story. 
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#3  Edited By crimsonspider89

Yeah, they were. But it happens in real life tons of time. 
 
Rogue was raped when she was captured and depowered once as well.  I have no problem with it being presented in comics, makes it seem more realistic.

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#4  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Ms.Marvel has been raped was well IIRC.Also Spider-Woman,and Jessica Jones-Cage have been raped.It doesn't bother me because it adds realism.Women get raped in real life.I would imagine they would in a fictional reality as well.

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#5  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Lol Batman was raped aswell.

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#6  Edited By Primmaster64

Black Cat was raped? When exacly?

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#7  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Primmaster64 said:
" Black Cat was raped? When exacly? "
@erik said:
" @DEGRAAF:  Black Cat was. It is part of her origin story.  "
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#8  Edited By Primmaster64
@Vance Astro: LOL thanx i guess...
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#10  Edited By Vathers

Wait, Dick was raped?   By who?

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#11  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

before Black Canary came along Sin was raped and sexually abused all the time
before Black Canary came along Sin was raped and sexually abused all the time
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#13  Edited By DEGRAAF

idk, i was never sexually abused but ive known alot of woman that have been. I think comics can still be real and not have that in them. plus if i wanted realism i would watch the news

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#14  Edited By Vathers

@Babs
 
I'm actually upset about how Dick was misled by his feelings for the woman.  I know he cared very much for Barbara and it saddens me that the events that occurred had such a nasty impact on his life.  He's never had a good life, one of the more..... victimized characters of DC's comics.

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#15  Edited By dane

I don't think it should be present in comics as much as it is. imo it's a go-to plot device to make a character seem more evil.

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#16  Edited By Erik
@Dane said:
" I don't think it should be present in comics as much as it is. imo it's a go-to plot device to make a character seem more evil. "
It works though. As the saying goes, "If it aint broke...."
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#17  Edited By Theodore

Comedian tries to rape the Silk Spectre as well

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#18  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Dracade102 said:
"    Wait... Wasn't Black Manta Raped in his origin too? o_O these kinda things confued me when i wuz a kid reading Comic books... "
I'm sorry but...LMFAO.
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#19  Edited By dane

It's the laziest plot device on the planet and it's overused so much nearly every female character and a good percentage of male characters have been raped.

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#20  Edited By Erik
@Dane said:
" It's the laziest plot device on the planet and it's overused so much nearly every female character and a good percentage of male characters have been raped. "
Has Wolverine? Serious question, no sarcasm intended. Mind rape does not count. 
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#21  Edited By dane
@erik said:
" @Dane said:
" It's the laziest plot device on the planet and it's overused so much nearly every female character and a good percentage of male characters have been raped. "
Has Wolverine? Serious question, no sarcasm intended. Mind rape does not count.  "
Not possible. Wolverine doesn't turn down anything.
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#22  Edited By Erik
@Dane said:
" @erik said:
" @Dane said:
" It's the laziest plot device on the planet and it's overused so much nearly every female character and a good percentage of male characters have been raped. "
Has Wolverine? Serious question, no sarcasm intended. Mind rape does not count.  "
Not possible. Wolverine doesn't turn down anything. "
Lol. 
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#23  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@Dracade102 said:
"    Wait... Wasn't Black Manta Raped in his origin too? o_O these kinda things confued me when i wuz a kid reading Comic books... "
Ya actually he was sexually abused lol and swore revenge on the mighty sea
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#24  Edited By rein
@Son_of_Magnus said:
wait.... The sea raped him lol?
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#25  Edited By dane

wait, what? he was sexually abused by the sea? how the...

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#26  Edited By rein
@Dane said:
" wait, what? he was sexually abused by the sea? how the... "
Maybe that's what an undertow is?
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#27  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

No he was raped and abused by thugs

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#28  Edited By dane

thats a pretty weak origin story.

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#29  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@Dracade102 said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Dracade102 said:
"    Wait... Wasn't Black Manta Raped in his origin too? o_O these kinda things confued me when i wuz a kid reading Comic books... "
Ya actually he was sexually abused lol and swore revenge on the mighty sea "
I knew it was something along the lines of that!!! Thanks!!! ....But wait... "lol" @ him being sexually abused??? O_O ...What did poor Manta ever do to you?? "
Kill people
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#30  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@Dane said:

" thats a pretty weak origin story. "

His Pre Crisis story is better
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#31  Edited By The Mast

Someone actually said to me that there are two crimes that don't seem to happen in comics; paedophilia and rape.
 
Murder's fine, but not those two. I do find that odd, but I also totally understand it. With that said, something upping the stakes or emotional investment of a story by including a horrific crime can have a huge pay off. The most critically acclaimed things always tend to go for broke a little.
 
I always wanted the whole Mr. Sinister/Cyclops dynamic to be touched on, when he was in the orphanage and Sinister used to mess with him.

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#32  Edited By Erik
@The Mast said:

" Someone actually said to me that there are two crimes that don't seem to happen in comics; paedophilia and rape.  Murder's fine, but not those two. I do find that odd, but I also totally understand it. With that said, something upping the stakes or emotional investment of a story by including a horrific crime can have a huge pay off. The most critically acclaimed things always tend to go for broke a little.  I always wanted the whole Mr. Sinister/Cyclops dynamic to be touched on, when he was in the orphanage and Sinister used to mess with him. "

Sinister is tapping Cyclops'...... power?
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#33  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

I believe Kate Bishop was raped as well, that's what gave her the urge to become such a good fighter, so that it wuldn't happen again. I hate it as well, I mean I understand if it's apart of their origin, like Kate's for example because that shows why they chose to become who they are today, but when it came to Black Cat, Dick, and I even think there was a thread about Thor getting raped on here once, that's just pointless.

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#34  Edited By The Mast
@erik said:
" @The Mast said:

" Someone actually said to me that there are two crimes that don't seem to happen in comics; paedophilia and rape.  Murder's fine, but not those two. I do find that odd, but I also totally understand it. With that said, something upping the stakes or emotional investment of a story by including a horrific crime can have a huge pay off. The most critically acclaimed things always tend to go for broke a little.  I always wanted the whole Mr. Sinister/Cyclops dynamic to be touched on, when he was in the orphanage and Sinister used to mess with him. "

Sinister is tapping Cyclops'...... power? "
 
Nope, Sinister wants Cyclops' OTHER body part with one eye...
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#35  Edited By InnerVenom123

Yeah, I'm fine with rape in any media. Can't avoid a real life issue.

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#36  Edited By Erik
@The Mast said:
" @erik said:
" @The Mast said:

" Someone actually said to me that there are two crimes that don't seem to happen in comics; paedophilia and rape.  Murder's fine, but not those two. I do find that odd, but I also totally understand it. With that said, something upping the stakes or emotional investment of a story by including a horrific crime can have a huge pay off. The most critically acclaimed things always tend to go for broke a little.  I always wanted the whole Mr. Sinister/Cyclops dynamic to be touched on, when he was in the orphanage and Sinister used to mess with him. "

Sinister is tapping Cyclops'...... power? "
 Nope, Sinister wants Cyclops' OTHER body part with one eye... "
Lol you nasty. 
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#37  Edited By EisforExtinction

Why avoid a real life issue in your comic books?
 
Huntress was also sexually abused as a child.

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#38  Edited By crimsonspider89

Yeah, I mean, having real life issues in comics make it where people can relate to the characters better. 

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#39  Edited By Erik

I think the OP should have a list of all the characters being posted. 

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#40  Edited By WARLOCK2792
@crimsonspider89 said:
"Yeah, they were. But it happens in real life tons of time.  Rogue was raped when she was captured and depowered once as well.  I have no problem with it being presented in comics, makes it seem more realistic. "
Ok, I seriously don't remember the Rogue part. 
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Jessica Jones-Cage?  When? 
 
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#41  Edited By Theodore

So in order to become a female hero you need to get raped?

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#42  Edited By Vathers
@Theodore: 
 
Evidently, in order to invoke sympathy even Dick was not immune.  
 
 
 
I strongly dislike the content I just read about with Dick being.... abused.
 
I'm writing to DC comics about this crap.
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#43  Edited By WARLOCK2792
@Theodore said:
"So in order to become a female hero you need to get raped? "
I'm sorry, but I feel that this comment is a bit dumb.
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#44  Edited By Vathers
@White Mage said:
" @Theodore said:
"So in order to become a female hero you need to get raped? "
I'm sorry, but I feel that this comment is a bit dumb. "
Well it seems you might have mistaken the context in which he wrote it.
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#45  Edited By WARLOCK2792
@Vathers said:
" @White Mage said:
" @Theodore said:
"So in order to become a female hero you need to get raped? "
I'm sorry, but I feel that this comment is a bit dumb. "
Well it seems you might have mistaken the context in which he wrote it. "
I understand the context in which he wrote it, and I still stand by my original statement. 
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#46  Edited By dane
@Vathers said:
" @Theodore: 
 
Evidently, in order to invoke sympathy even Dick was not immune.  
 
 
 
I strongly dislike the content I just read about with Dick being.... abused.
 
I'm writing to DC comics about this crap. "
90% of DC characters have been raped, I don't think they care.
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#47  Edited By Nerx

I got a list of comic book rapists if anyone is interested 

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#48  Edited By Erik
@Nerx said:
" I got a list of comic book rapists if anyone is interested  "
Post it. 
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#49  Edited By Vathers
@Dane: 
 
Nonetheless, I fully intend on making my dissatisfaction known.
 
@Nerx:
 
Why would you compile a list of those who do such things in the literary sense even?
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#50  Edited By WARLOCK2792
@Vathers:  
 
The same reason why there is a list of people who have been victimized.