Characteristics that make a Excellent Super Villain

Post by Firestormnuclerman (1,626 posts) See mini bio

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With plenty of Excellent Super Villains from Joker, Lex Luthor, Green Goblin, Red Skull, Darkseid, etc it's time to list the characteristics that make a excellent super villain. I'll start

1.Threat Level Not just a threat to their foes but to ordinary people because of what he or she can do, and the World.

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Post by Pulsar (1,799 posts) See mini bio

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A great villain to me has to be cunning. That's the number one characteristic are a villain. They have to have vision(no, I don't mean the sense of sight). Transparent villains aren't worth the pencil they're drawn in.

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Post by Firestormnuclerman (1,626 posts) See mini bio

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Pulsar said:

"A great villain to me has to be cunning. That's the number one characteristic are a villain. They have to have vision(no, I don't mean the sense of sight). Transparent villains aren't worth the pencil they're drawn in."

Blackheart, Joker, and Thanos are all cunning.

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Post by Noh-Varr. (10 posts) See mini bio

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The best villain is a villain that has plans within plans.

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Post by Pulsar (1,799 posts) See mini bio

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I also like villains who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty. Oh, I hate dumb villain who are like why are the cops here? I'm only robbing a bank. They need to work on that.

Posted 1 year ago

Post by gunswordfist (2,296 posts) See mini bio

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This will always be Number 1.

#1 Contrast- What makes the villain different from the hero is the most important thing about a villain. Best example in comic book history would be Superman and Lex Luthor. Superman is an extremely powerful alien from a planet far far away. Lex Luthor is a well respected human businessman. What makes this so interesting is that Lex is the villain here.

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Post by Cavalry (184 posts) See mini bio

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I agree that villains should have some manner of relationship with the heroes they are originally pencilled for. From there, they can grow and affect others.. but a truly good villain is one that clashed with their original hero.

As with the post above mine.. the Superman / Lex Luthor distinction is good.

Then there are:
* Goblins / Spiderman.
* Joker / Batman
* Magneto / X Men
* Zoom / Flash

etc.. all excellent villains, but they work because of their original nemesis.

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Post by gunswordfist (2,296 posts) See mini bio

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Cavalry said:

"I agree that villains should have some manner of relationship with the heroes they are originally pencilled for. From there, they can grow and affect others.. but a truly good villain is one that clashed with their original hero.

As with the post above mine.. the Superman / Lex Luthor distinction is good.

Then there are:
* Goblins / Spiderman.
* Joker / Batman
* Magneto / X Men
* Zoom / Flash

etc.. all excellent villains, but they work because of their original nemesis.
"

I LOVE the relationship between Magneto and the X-Men. Of course I mostly experienced that through the X-Men Legends games and the INCREDIBLE 90s cartoon but still, I love how they are fighting for the same thing but in two completely different ways. Magneto has always been my favorite super (and Marvel) villain.

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Post by The WeatherMan (3,036 posts) See mini bio

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Be a general badass. They have to do something to really get to the hero, or to someone, like when the Joker shot Barbara Gordon and when he killed Robin. That's badass. We knew before that he was a threat, but now he is a real menace.

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Post by Strafe Prower (5,274 posts) See mini bio

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I want them to have a plan to really outsmart the person, or the power to handle the hero.

I can't stand when people like Penguin fight Batman, lose, then are like "What happened?"

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Post by Nighthunter (26,365 posts) See mini bio

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Any villain who doesn't keep talking about how badass they are, they just prove it

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Post by V (772 posts) See mini bio

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Intellect

A motive/goal

Determination

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Post by Firestormnuclerman (1,626 posts) See mini bio

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Villains that have the beliefs they aren't Evil they are improving the World so the ends justify the means.
Examples
Poison Ivy
Ras Ah Ghul
Apocalypse
Sinestro
Dr.Doom
Bizzaro
Magneto
Venom In His eyes He is a Hero, and Spidey is the Villain

Villains that are aware they are Evil, and enjoying being savage vile sinister scumbags.
Examples
Dr.Light
Lobo
Evil Star
Omega Red
Jigsaw
Mongul
Mr.Sinister
Darkseid
Kingpin
Bullseye
Sabretooth
Green Goblin
Joker
Lucifer (Prince of Darkness) Enemy of the current Ghost Rider
Carnage
Blackheart
Mephisto
Lord Satanus
Ultron
Loki

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Post by Zoom (9,079 posts) See mini bio

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I think a villain that thinks everything he or she does is completely justified is awesome. You may not agree with him, but at least you can sympathize with Magneto and that's what makes him interesting. Every time he battles the X-Men, every time he commits a crime...a little bit of him is right. If he wasn't fighting good guys, the audience would be cheering him on. Hell, sometimes they do anyways.

Villains also need to be original. The best DC villains are Zoom, the Rogues, Darkseid, the bat villains, Lex Luthor and Sinestro. Why? Because each of them has a completely different way of looking at the world, unlike any other character.

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Post by Firestormnuclerman (1,626 posts) See mini bio

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Villains that use Psychological Torture to push their foes over the Edge lacking any empathy to see their actions as bad, and savage.

Joker in The Killing Joke, Fooling Superman when Lois wasn't in any real danger, and plenty of others.

Kingpin Using the known secret identity to torture his blind adversary Daredevil.

Bullseye With a grudge against the Man without Fear Daredevil it's murduring people including ones close to Daredevil aimed at toruring Daredevil

Green Goblin Torturing Peter Parker for hours to get him to accept the mantle of Green Goblin, killing Gwen Stacey, getting Flash Thompson drunk and having him drive drunk to the High School Peter works at that resulted in Flash getting brain damage, plus plenty of other things.Plenty of others.

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Post by Girth (351 posts) See mini bio

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A villain should be cold and calculating.

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Post by Cavalry (184 posts) See mini bio

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Of course, then there are the complitely comical villains that for some odd reason, I really like due to their ability to make me laugh. And I want to see more of them.

Example. (RIP Slyde)

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Post by Firestormnuclerman (1,626 posts) See mini bio

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Girth said:

"A villain should be cold and calculating."

So mainly a savage psychopath. Deathstroke fits that.

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Post by Zoom (9,079 posts) See mini bio

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Girth said:

"A villain should be cold and calculating."

Not always.

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Post by Strafe Prower (5,274 posts) See mini bio

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Zoom said:

"Girth said:
"A villain should be cold and calculating."
Not always.

"

Love it!!!

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Post by Nighthunter (26,365 posts) See mini bio

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Firestormnuclerman said:

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Villains that have the beliefs they aren't Evil they are improving the World so the ends justify the means.
Examples
Poison Ivy
Ras Ah Ghul
Apocalypse
Sinestro
Dr.Doom
Bizzaro
Magneto
Venom In His eyes He is a Hero, and Spidey is the Villain
"

how could you have forgot Luthor?

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Post by BrainDawg (8 posts) See mini bio

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I think the best villains are the ones you truly believe are capable of "winning" against the hero.

Its not just believing their capable of defeating the hero in a fight or even killing him, although that's definitely a part of it. They have to be able to attack the hero in ways that he nor you ever expected.

I think thats why everyone loves the joker, Cause when he's written well, he's completely unpredictable.

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Post by Methos (41,324 posts) See mini bio

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the best supervillain should be the one that noone sees coming... the one noone expects... the one that can get away with it...

like Scott... the man who killed Batman...

M

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Post by Donnieman v5.1 (12,241 posts) See mini bio

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I like a villain who has a few screws loose.

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Post by BrainDawg (8 posts) See mini bio

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The WeatherMan said:

"Be a general badass...

Rule number 1 in supervilliany =]

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Post by Firestormnuclerman (1,626 posts) See mini bio

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I always like archenemies that seem to be similar to their main foes however act Evil, or are powerful enough to give them plenty of trouble even if they don't have the same powers abilties.

Examples of Archenemies With the Same Powers Abilties
Wolverine Sabretooth
Spider Man Venom
Captain America Red Skull
Punisher Jigsaw
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) Sinestro
Hulk Abomination

Archenemies That are powerful enough to give the super hero trouble
Superman Lex Luthor
Batman Joker
Firestorm Multiplex
Spider Man Green Goblin
X Men Magneto
Flash Captain Cold
Moon Knight Bushman
Daredevil Kingpin
Spawn Jason Wynn
Ghost Rider Lucifer

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Post by Firestormnuclerman (1,626 posts) See mini bio

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Nighthunter said:

"Firestormnuclerman said:
"
Villains that have the beliefs they aren't Evil they are improving the World so the ends justify the means.
Examples
Poison Ivy
Ras Ah Ghul
Apocalypse
Sinestro
Dr.Doom
Bizzaro
Magneto
Venom In His eyes He is a Hero, and Spidey is the Villain
"
how could you have forgot Luthor?"

Because I made a mistake of leaving him out.

Also dman what do you mean by a villain that has a few screws loose?

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