Would Batman make the perfect Jedi?

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Thought about this for a while, and it REALLY makes sense. He is entirely selfless, has COMPLETE control of his emotions and often denies passions, is a highly skilled combatant, incredibly wise. So...How would he fare as a Jedi? Who would his master be? What would he be like?

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The way you described him sounds like obi-wan. Which is a good thing. But j see him being more like qui-gon jinn. Someone who is willing to bend the rules every now and again

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@jayc1324: he's also already been trained by qui-gon

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@drmantistoboggan: Yup, so it would make sense that Jinn would be a good master for Bruce

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#5  Edited By RetconCrisis

Fear, this boy has.

Corrupts, fear does.

Trained, Bruce will not.

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Fear, this boy has.

Corrupts, fear does.

Trained, Bruce will not.

Batman doesn't have fear. At least, not anymore.

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No he doesn't.

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#8  Edited By KnightRise

Batman would make a terrible Jedi.

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Batman would make a terrible Jedi.

Why?

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#10  Edited By AssertingValor

Batman this, batman that........

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Batman this, batman that........

Dude, I HATE Batman, but I still think he would be a great Jedi.

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#12  Edited By KnightRise

@lordmaverick said:

Batman this, batman that........

Dude, I HATE Batman, but I still think he would be a great Jedi.

I love Batman and I think he would make a poor Jedi. He only qualifies on paper not practice.

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@retconcrisis said:

Fear, this boy has.

Corrupts, fear does.

Trained, Bruce will not.

Batman doesn't have fear. At least, not anymore.

Jedi are trained since they are little. It is usually a bad idea to train them any older than 8-9 because their mind by then is either corrupted or too grown to be trained starting with a light heart. Which is why Yoda was against training Anakin. However, if they do train Bruce since he was 8, he still would have the fear of bats and still would've been corrupted by his parents' deaths.

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#14  Edited By DrMantisToboggan

I don't think he has the proper amount of midichlorians

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#15  Edited By DWrathborne

IMO, while he may have his fear under control for the most part, Batman possesses far too much rage to be considered for Jedi training. I've seen it happen quite often in his titles. The things he witnesses enrage him to the point he beats people half to death on a nightly basis. Righteous anger is still anger, and anger leads to the Dark Side. While he may not kill, he wants to so badly at times he can taste it. While he has admirable control over this urge, I feel it would be far too great a risk to teach him to manipulate the Force.

Besides, he does such an admirable job with the resources currently at his disposal. No need to amp him further.

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@retconcrisis: @dwrathborne: Lukes (adopted) parents were killed. Luke was a teenager. Luke had fear and rage. Sooo, yeah, I don't see what would be holding back Bruce from becoming a successful jedi.

Although, to be honest, he'd make a much better sith or maybe a gray jedi.

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I'd say he'd be a decent Sith but he's no Jedi. His rage and overall darkness would lure him towards the Dark Side. Also, for the most part he has it under control but he does have fear and... I'll let Yoda explain the rest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnFr-DOPf8

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#19  Edited By _Atomikill_

Fear, this boy has.

Corrupts him, fear does.

Trained, Bruce will not be.

Yoda-Grammar-Nazi!

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#21  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

@onemoreposter said:

@retconcrisis: @dwrathborne: Lukes (adopted) parents were killed. Luke was a teenager. Luke had fear and rage. Sooo, yeah, I don't see what would be holding back Bruce from becoming a successful jedi.

Although, to be honest, he'd make a much better sith or maybe a gray jedi.

Luke's a special case. The events he experienced, the training he went through, and his lineage were not typical of ANY Jedi.

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#22  Edited By DrMantisToboggan

@juiceboks: also he had a high volume of midichlorians in his DNA, I don't think the force was strong in Thomas Wayne

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"Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering. Suffering to the dark side"

Batman fears plenty of things, but his biggest fear is Joker's unpredictability. Joker has driven him to anger many times before and he certainly does hate Joker. See where I'm going with this?

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@superguy1591: he would make a supremely powerful Sith, but that pesky no kill rule might cause some issues

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@onemoreposter: Yes, Luke had fear and rage, but not nearly so much as Bruce Wayne. Luke was much older than Bruce when his Aunt and Uncle were killed, thus better able to deal with it. Plus they weren't murdered right in front of him, so he wasn't nearly as traumatized by their deaths. He wasn't obsessively training himself for twenty years to make the Empire and anyone like them pay for what they'd done in order to impose some sense of sanity and justice in the universe. He did what he thought was right, and yet he still almost fell to the Dark Side in Return knowing full well the danger.

So, is it possible that Batman could make a good Jedi? Well, anything's possible in comics and science fiction, but I wouldn't take the risk if it were my decision. I believe he'd view the Force as just another tool in his arsenal. Another weapon in his crusade so to speak. He'd try to control it rather than let it act through him as the Jedi teach.

It also depends a lot upon what Batman you see when you envision him in your head. I see him as a determined and talented, yet flawed individual who's sanity is questionable at times.

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#26  Edited By Jokergeist

Honestly, the Joker would drive Batman to the Dark Side faster than Yoda can mispronounce the word "up"

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@lordmaverick said:

Batman this, batman that........

Dude, I HATE Batman, but I still think he would be a great Jedi.

you hate batman and think the prequels are some of the best movies of all time... what are you? you frighten me

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#28  Edited By Sovereign91001

No way, Bruce has way to many issues and is self admittedly emotionally damaged.

And I know this will open a can of worms but Post Crisis Superman would make a good Jedi.

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#30  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Bruce would be a gray Jedi. He doesn't like to work with the Justice League; you think he'll enjoy following the orders of the Council? Not happening.

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#31  Edited By jumpstart55

A Jedi has to be willing to kill when necessary. And Batman as we all know has a strict no killing policy.

I think Superman would make a much better Jedi same goes for Wonder Woman. Being a Jedi is about alot more then looking cool with a light saber, its about having the absolute will to do whats necessary. Batman has way to many screws lose for him to even be a decent Jedi let alone a perfect Jedi.I'm almost absolutely certain Batman would end becoming a sith way before he ever becomes a Jedi. Theres just to much darkness in his past.

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Batman is ninja..

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@spideyivydaredevilfan26 said:

@lordmaverick said:

Batman this, batman that........

Dude, I HATE Batman, but I still think he would be a great Jedi.

you hate batman and think the prequels are some of the best movies of all time... what are you? you frighten me

GASP! I have a BACKBONE!!

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Like some people have said, Batman has quite a few characteristics that make him unfit to be a Jedi.

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Batman would make the perfect Sith Lord. Or Dark Jedi. Not an actual Jedi

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Even though he has some personality traits that would be agreeable with the Jedi way, I do think that there is one key element of Batman's character that would keep him from being a great Jedi and possibly lead him to be a Sith Lord. Batman operates through instilling fear and that really lends itself into the way the Sith operate.

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Even though he has some personality traits that would be agreeable with the Jedi way, I do think that there is one key element of Batman's character that would keep him from being a great Jedi and possibly lead him to be a Sith Lord. Batman operates through instilling fear and that really lends itself into the way the Sith operate.

This. If he had midiclorians.

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#40  Edited By MatteoPG

Although he has good discipline, he also is prone to fits of anger. For a regular individual it's fine, but for a Jedi it's very dangerous.

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I don't think Batman would want the taint of Star Wars on him.

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I think he'd be a better Sith.

Even though he has some personality traits that would be agreeable with the Jedi way, I do think that there is one key element of Batman's character that would keep him from being a great Jedi and possibly lead him to be a Sith Lord. Batman operates through instilling fear and that really lends itself into the way the Sith operate.

Pretty much agree with this. He'd probably find the Sith way more effective.

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I think he'd be a better Sith.

@youknowwhattodo said:

Even though he has some personality traits that would be agreeable with the Jedi way, I do think that there is one key element of Batman's character that would keep him from being a great Jedi and possibly lead him to be a Sith Lord. Batman operates through instilling fear and that really lends itself into the way the Sith operate.

Pretty much agree with this. He'd probably find the Sith way more effective.

Yeah that's what I was thinking!

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@spideyivydaredevilfan26 said:

@lordmaverick said:

Batman this, batman that........

Dude, I HATE Batman, but I still think he would be a great Jedi.

you hate batman and think the prequels are some of the best movies of all time... what are you? you frighten me

A creature far worst than Gungans

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Even if I agree with the majority in this, I still think a Batman-Jedi would be awesome:

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@frogdog said:

@cuddlebear said:

@spideyivydaredevilfan26 said:

@lordmaverick said:

Batman this, batman that........

Dude, I HATE Batman, but I still think he would be a great Jedi.

you hate batman and think the prequels are some of the best movies of all time... what are you? you frighten me

A creature far worst than Gungans

How dare I have a backbone and actually tell you what I think instead of having a bunch of pointy heads program their opinions into me?! I SHOULD BE CASTRATED AND HAVE MY BALLS FED TO A BABY SEAL!!!!!

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#47  Edited By tigerkaya

Hell no he doesn't have what takes to be Jedi because it requires to to kill his enemy in combat and since Batman isn't willing to take a life his Jedi trial would be over before it even started.

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@frogdog said:

@cuddlebear said:

@spideyivydaredevilfan26 said:

@lordmaverick said:

Batman this, batman that........

Dude, I HATE Batman, but I still think he would be a great Jedi.

you hate batman and think the prequels are some of the best movies of all time... what are you? you frighten me

A creature far worst than Gungans

How dare I have a backbone and actually tell you what I think instead of having a bunch of pointy heads program their opinions into me?! I SHOULD BE CASTRATED AND HAVE MY BALLS FED TO A BABY SEAL!!!!!

i applaud you not bowing to the consensus opinion... but you must understand that claiming the prequel movies are some of the best movies ever made is an outrageous claim. like "i invented the question mark" or "chestnuts are lazy" kind of outrageous. also hating batman? i feel like you are projecting your spidey darevdevil bias on that one.

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@spideyivydaredevilfan26 said:

@frogdog said:

@cuddlebear said:

@spideyivydaredevilfan26 said:

@lordmaverick said:

Batman this, batman that........

Dude, I HATE Batman, but I still think he would be a great Jedi.

you hate batman and think the prequels are some of the best movies of all time... what are you? you frighten me

A creature far worst than Gungans

How dare I have a backbone and actually tell you what I think instead of having a bunch of pointy heads program their opinions into me?! I SHOULD BE CASTRATED AND HAVE MY BALLS FED TO A BABY SEAL!!!!!

i applaud you not bowing to the consensus opinion... but you must understand that claiming the prequel movies are some of the best movies ever made is an outrageous claim. like "i invented the question mark" or "chestnuts are lazy" kind of outrageous. also hating batman? i feel like you are projecting your spidey darevdevil bias on that one.

By "best ever" I mean 100 best ever. There are only so many One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nests and Godfathers.

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Yep.