Worst retcon in comics?

Tell what you considder the worst retcon in comics, and why?

One More Day, Resurrection of Jason Todd, the New 52 reboot.

The Beyond error. I think almost everyone would agree to that. He hasn't just been retconned once, it's been a few times. That's crazy considering he has so few storylines.

The power of the Infinity Gems has also been retconned a couple of times. That would be number two for me.

ONE MORE DAY and SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN.

Identity Crisis or Maxwell Lord being evil.

Not a retcon.

Jason Todd coming back. Not because he came back, but HOW he came back...really? Punching reality??

I'm glad they didn't use that in the Under the Red Hood movie.

The Question being turned into some sort of ancient mystical being. Bronze Tiger becoming some sort of werecat thing. Non mainstream characters really got it the worst.

Finally, I get to put my name to use.

DC's would be Identity Crisis or New 52/Flashpoint

Both I felt were totally unneeded, and, if they were needed, were executed poorly in my opinion.

Marvel's would be One More Day

Just... just no.

(Flashpoint Paradox animated adaptation was awesome, though still not worth it for the whole New 52 reboot)

That would've probably ruined a bit of my enjoyment of the movie...

Barry Allen's mother being murdered.

Geoff. Johns' Superman Secret Origin. It took the place of the PERFECT Superman origin story for a vastly vastly inferior one. Which isn't to say it was bad, but Birthright was the perfect Superman origin. There was no reason for SO to happen

I only know of One More Day. I'll take everyone's word on Jason Todd though. I thought Flashpoint was a good story though. I'm not a huge fan of DC so I only have heard how bad the NU52 is. (+)

One More Day

The Entire New 52

Identity Crisis

The Xorn/Magneto Debacle

Superman Secret Origin

The Beyonder

Parallax. Hal Jordan did not loose his mind over grief and a sense of powerlessness because his home town was nuked along with everyone in it to go on a self-destructive rampage, you know, like an actual human being might.

Nope, he lost his mind because he had a giant yellow space-bug infecting his brain.

And it's bad because there was nothing to suggest, before Johns came on board, that this entity even existed, not even when Hal was the near omnipotent Spectre and 'oddly enough' not mentioned or addressed when Hal went to Oa to kill Sinestro and most of the Guardians. Parallax was invented to redeem Hal Jordan, and Johns had to shake the whole GL tree in order to do so.

Definetly ONE MORE DAY. Spidey went down from there.

They give you something interesting for possibilties, like unmasked Peter, and then went back, with devils, retcons, Aunt May exchange for Marriage (damn Peter - I know you love her, but she's very old. She will still die. Don't wast your love for MJ).

And...that.

@outside_85 said:

Parallax. Hal Jordan did not loose his mind over grief and a sense of powerlessness because his home town was nuked along with everyone in it to go on a self-destructive rampage, you know, like an actual human being might.

Nope, he lost his mind because he had a giant yellow space-bug infecting his brain.

And it's bad because there was nothing to suggest, before Johns came on board, that this entity even existed, not even when Hal was the near omnipotent Spectre and 'oddly enough' not mentioned or addressed when Hal went to Oa to kill Sinestro and most of the Guardians. Parallax was invented to redeem Hal Jordan, and Johns had to shake the whole GL tree in order to do so.

I've been saying that for years.

And ir was even more unnecessary considered that he had been redeem already.

One More Day. It was a complete waste of time and a giant middle finger to the Spider-Man mythos.

New 52 Captain Marvel

I feel like while Geoff Johns set up some good story elements and mythos building he missed the point of the character.

Any time they make a character black or gay. to me its un-creative and weak attempt to pander to those groups, but in the end it comes off as insulting to said groups and alienates the existing fan base.

Creating new characters for that is what they need to do like earth 2 superman.

He do get him. He actually wrote Captain Marvel pretty well in JSA. He just decided that he should be a giant baby now because... I dont know!

Maybe it's because a big part of the New 52 is making character who fit into movies better, and they wanted a new version of the character who could be darker and fit better on screen.

Black September. Take a fun, different universe, break it down... and 'Marvelize' it.

"In a moment we're about to make tens of thousands of canonically-linked comic books completely irrelevant.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you... the NEW 52!

Trust me, it's a really good idea because comic sales will spike for a few months. The reaction will be negative, but our devoted audeince will buy them anyway."

Wonder Woman's New 52 origin.

KamenRiderHellhound This, plus the entire nu52. Not a bit of it isn't a confusing mess.

@kcjr: I agree. He is too powerful to be an inhuman and the infinity gems didnt need to be change.

One more day and mikaboshi was wack too.

Outside_85 I feel like Marz's run was sorancidthat fans were just happy for anything. Of course Emerald Twilight was garbage, but the stuff like Final Night, Judgment day and JM's Spectre series were heartfelt and touching. There was a way to retire Hal like Barry and it would have been perfect. Johns couldn't handle this so instead he created a cop out fear entity that obviated Hal's responsibility while at the same time failing to deal with the complex moral and emotional issues. Still, Johns wins by default because everything Post COIC was garbage on GL. (sarcasm) Yeah) end sarcasm.

DarthDestructor I know, he basically made a deal with Satan so his Aunt who was and old would live a few more years. And he gave up his marriage to the woman he loved for what? So we could go back to JJJ calling him a menace. You know as much as I hate BMB killing Ultimate Spidey and shoving in Moran, I like how the characters have developed. JJJ isn't a one note joke, May slaps captain America because she feels he disrespected her son, this instead of being so frail she cannot handle anything.

@captainmarvel4ever: Well, that's just stupid.

Gwen Stacey having sex with Norman Osborne.

One More Day
Superman Secret Origin
Beyonder
Spectre too , i heard he's no longer wrath of God but just an Angry Ghost?

• Identity Crisis
• One More Day
• The IG Now being non Multiversal

As stupid as it is, I'm not as upset as I used to be about OMD, mainly because Peter and MJ have remained happily married in the newspaper comics in all the years since it's publication, so it did'nt really accomplish a thing if you know where to look. All it did was convince me MC2's Spider-Girl timeline was the real ending for Peter and 616 is just a glorified parody fanfic.

-Implying Metallo killed Bruce Wayne's parents. Not something that stuck all that long thankfully, but...yeah, let's not try and turn the death of the Waynes into some complex mystery with mutliple layers. Leave it as the random act of violence by a petty crook that it is.

-Alicia Masters is a skrull. Johnny has only gone further and further backwards in maturity since then, where as with Alicia he felt focused and was on target emotionally. Mind you, I do 'ship Johnny and Lyja a lot and am glad they stayed together in the MC2 canon.

-Peter's parents being cyborg killers created by Harry Osborn and The Chamelion. The one good thing it led to was Chamelion losing his marbles.

@outside_85:

Oh man I agree with that. That is awful