Without Kirby New Gods, is Star Wars movie will different ?

Discuss what will happen to Star Wars without the influence of Jack Kirby New Gods

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I didn't realize star wars was influenced by Jack Kirby's New Gods? Do you have a source?

I have heard Lucas was inspired by many sources to create Star Wars, one of which included Kirby's New Gods so i guess without it maybe there wouldn't have been any Force or father-son relationship between protagonist & the antagonist...

George Lucas take this from the theory of the meta mythology (The Hero With a Thousand Faces) and the Jungian archetypes from the Collective unconscious.

The belief it was mostly the new gods, it would be wrong, all the concepts of the New Gods existed before the New Gods.

So it wouldnt had changed that much, maybe nothing at all.

Mostly what was stated here. Nothing about the new gods or star wars was truly that original of itself. Star Wars drew inspiration from many sources especially the sci fi influences of Lucas' youth which was stuff from the 40's and 50's. Flash Gordon, pulp fiction, etc. I'm not even sure its a given that Lucas had any idea who the new gods were when he started writing drafts for star wars which was right around the time that Kirby started writing about them if not before.

Wait...what? o_•

You mean Hidden Fortress by Akira Kurosawa?

@spambot: accidentally flagged you, but Lucas was influenced by Samurai movies and Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress.

Jedis are Samurais.

R2D2 and C3PO are Mataschi and Teiei from The Hidden Fortress.

@superguy1591: ya, like I said it was a variety of influences from both his childhood as well as movies he saw or studies while in film school. I wasn't trying to exclude certain influences just with the ones I mentioned in my post. Most of the best fiction comes from people who are well read on a variety of different subject areas and find ways to work it into what they write. Frank Herbert for instance spent like 4-5 years just studying things like religion and history in preparation for writing the first Dune book which tells you how wide a variety of topics/influences he wanted to cover and integrate into that book.

Star Wars is more similar to Valerian and Laureline than New Gods IMO