Will Man of Steel be better than Batman Begins?

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#1 Posted by TheCannon (14192 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio


#2 Posted by TheCannon (14192 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

I vote no.

#3 Posted by iHailCarlo (94 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

I hope so, I hope all movies continue to get better.

#4 Posted by JLDoom (1443 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Hopefully!

#5 Posted by Manwhohaseverything (876 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Way too early to tell..my gut says it's gonna be epic, but that doesn't count for anything. I LOVE the trailers, but again, that doesn't guarantee a great movie.

#6 Posted by Blacklightning13 (909 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Batman Begins was the weakest of the Nolan Batman movies, and the man of steel looks awesome. Both will/did do the meaningful, introductory, movie that sets the scene for the other movies. I just think Man of Steel will have learnt from BB and do it better.

#7 Posted by JediXMan (22919 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Doubt it.

#8 Posted by colonyofcells (1855 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

The Superman movie is just copying the Batman formula which works better with Batman. The first half of the Clark Kent movie should be ok with Clark being confused about what to do with his life like the Philip Wylie Gladiator. Clark looks better without the silly spandex as seen in the majority of seasons of the Smallville tv show which lasted 10 seasons. Appreciation of the 2nd half of the movie will plummet once the silly spandex part starts. I would follow the 1938 more realistic evolution origin of kryptonians as similar to super insects. Can establish that krypton does have weapons that work even on kryptonians. Clark learns kung fu from the Jor-El computer in the fortress of solitude. Better for Superman to use armor like Iron Man and ditch the silly spandex. For Superman vs Zod/Faora, can do it like the Matrix kung fu movie. Then Zod/Faora brings out the guns and Superman has to resort to some kryptonian tech or weapons also to beat the evil kryptonians. For future movies, just have kryptonian tech copied by the military, Lex and Metallo and there should be lots of fun even without the evil kryptonians. Brainiac should have some weapons that can hurt Superman. Kryptonite mythology can be adapted as saying kryptonite is a super kryptonian energy source powering the kryptonian weapons. So can use things like kryptonite energy source powering kryptonian weapons, Inertron armor, etc. in the fights.

#9 Posted by Floopay (5597 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Batman Begins was pretty good. To me the series really took off with The Dark Knight. The first one is great to watch, but the second one is just too epic.

I'm hoping The Man of Steel will be like Thor or Iron Man, where it opens up with a huge bang.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#10 Posted by AllStarSuperman (3226 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Personally I like Batman begins the best. Then TDKR. The TDK. I'm hope MOS is even better though

#11 Posted by Gambit1024 (9878 posts) - 4 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

It will be an entirely different movie.

#12 Posted by RobocopSlayerT800 (2345 posts) - 4 months, 23 hours ago - Show Bio

Yes, but Batman Begins has been out for awhile. A Better question would of been " Will Man Of Steel be better than Dark Knight Rises? "

#13 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (21886 posts) - 4 months, 23 hours ago - Show Bio

Well, using my precognitive powers that I have ultimate control over, and thus only use to predict the quality of comic book films before their release, I say; 
 
It's a possibility. 

#14 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 4 months, 21 hours ago - Show Bio

I hope so,doubtful but hopefully.

#15 Posted by darkman61288 (353 posts) - 4 months, 21 hours ago - Show Bio

No, if your talking about in terms of money roughly egual or less.

#16 Posted by Eternal19 (1412 posts) - 4 months, 21 hours ago - Show Bio

I dont really know. I want it to, but since its superman i know its going to get a lot of hate, especially from older people.

#17 Posted by Aiden Cross (14435 posts) - 4 months, 21 hours ago - Show Bio

What's 'better'? More box office money? Better visuals? Better story? It'll be an entirely different movie and i'm hopeful that it'll be great and gain equal exposure as the Batman's movies =)

#18 Posted by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - 4 months, 21 hours ago - Show Bio

The only good thing about this movie will be Zod,

take away Zod and the rest of the movie will be worse than Bryan Singer Brandon Rotten's Superman Returns

#19 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1304 posts) - 4 months, 20 hours ago - Show Bio

I don't like the tone of Batman Begins... the middle part is abit boring..IMO

#20 Posted by Deadcool (6756 posts) - 4 months, 19 hours ago - Show Bio

We can't be sure about that. Making a Superman movie is more difficult than a Batman movie, you have to get the character and make him likeable.

The trailer seems perfect.

#21 Posted by sinestro_GL (1369 posts) - 4 months, 17 hours ago - Show Bio

Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

So I vote yes

#22 Posted by Glitch_Spawn (14688 posts) - 4 months, 17 hours ago - Show Bio

It definitely has the potential to be...

#23 Posted by Pokeysteve (3063 posts) - 4 months, 17 hours ago - Show Bio

Probably. Batman Begins was a crime story with "Batman" in it. Batman could have easily been replaced by any generic hero and it would of worked.

#24 Posted by John Valentine (15777 posts) - 4 months, 17 hours ago - Show Bio

Unlikely, Batman Begins is arguably the best superhero film ever made.

#25 Posted by Epicbeast3000 (556 posts) - 4 months, 7 hours ago - Show Bio

HELL NO, superman sucks compared to batsy.

#26 Posted by Kal'smahboi (2769 posts) - 4 months, 7 hours ago - Show Bio
@Floopay said:

I'm hoping The Man of Steel will be like Thor or Iron Man, where it opens up with a huge bang.

I really hope it's the opposite of Thor or Iron Man. I want a good movie, not just a good (and let's face it, formulaic) superhero movie.
#27 Edited by DarkKnightDetective (6665 posts) - 4 months, 7 hours ago - Show Bio

0:03

#28 Posted by dondave (7524 posts) - 4 months, 7 hours ago - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective said:

0:03

QFT

#29 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (13821 posts) - 4 months, 6 hours ago - Show Bio

I say it has a 50/50 chance.

#30 Posted by AllStarSuperman (3226 posts) - 4 months, 5 hours ago - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

Unlikely, Batman Begins is arguably the best superhero film ever made.

Other than kickass I agree but super and TDK were good

#31 Posted by John Valentine (15777 posts) - 4 months, 5 hours ago - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@John Valentine said:

Unlikely, Batman Begins is arguably the best superhero film ever made.

Other than kickass I agree but super and TDK were good

Not a fan of Super. I thought it was a darker, less appealing version of Kick-Ass.

TDK and DKR were awesome, but I think Batman Begins succeeds as the best superhero move due to the fact it focuses heavily on the philosophy of what it means to be a hero. Kick-Ass does this too.

I'd like to point out that I think X-Men 2, X-Men: First Class, Spider-Man 1, Spider-Man 2, Avengers, Iron Man 1 and Iron Man 2 and Thor are all great superhero movies, but I felt they didn't have as good a grasp on tackling this idea as Batman Begins did. Although I wasn't that much of a fan, Captain America handled this pretty damn well.

#32 Posted by AllStarSuperman (3226 posts) - 4 months, 5 hours ago - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@John Valentine said:

Unlikely, Batman Begins is arguably the best superhero film ever made.

Other than kickass I agree but super and TDK were good

Not a fan of Super. I thought it was a darker, less appealing version of Kick-Ass.

TDK and DKR were awesome, but I think Batman Begins succeeds as the best superhero move due to the fact it focuses heavily on the philosophy of what it means to be a hero. Kick-Ass does this too.

I'd like to point out that I think X-Men 2, X-Men: First Class, Spider-Man 1, Spider-Man 2, Avengers, Iron Man 1 and Iron Man 2 and Thor are all great superhero movies, but I felt they didn't have as good a grasp on tackling this idea as Batman Begins did. Although I wasn't that much of a fan, Captain America handled this pretty damn well.

Really I thought super was pretty good other then some messed up parts but the ending was awesome with the whole gun fight. I agree the movies that really feel like a hero are kick ass batman begins and superman

Although green lantern had the potential to be great it just fell short. It could have really capitalized on being a hero though

#33 Posted by Jorgevy (4647 posts) - 4 months, 5 hours ago - Show Bio

Batman Begins was my favourite of the trilogy. It was more Batmany and less realistic than the others IMO, I liked it. But as long as MoS doesn't try to pull a whole Dark Superman thing and says true to the character, I will probably easily like it better than any of the Nolan Bat movies

#34 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

Probably. Batman Begins was a crime story with "Batman" in it. Batman could have easily been replaced by any generic hero and it would of worked.

No,any other generic hero would have killed the prisoner at Ra's discretion.As correctly pointed out Begins got in to the philosophy of what it takes and means to be Batman better than any superhero movie.

@sinestro_GL said:

Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

So I vote yes

Mask of the Phantasm would beg to differ,and Year:One is held in higher regard than the Superman Origins.

#35 Posted by sinestro_GL (1369 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@Pokeysteve said:

Probably. Batman Begins was a crime story with "Batman" in it. Batman could have easily been replaced by any generic hero and it would of worked.

No,any other generic hero would have killed the prisoner at Ra's discretion.As correctly pointed out Begins got in to the philosophy of what it takes and means to be Batman better than any superhero movie.

@sinestro_GL said:

Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

So I vote yes

Mask of the Phantasm would beg to differ,and Year:One is held in higher regard than the Superman Origins.

Did you read what I said? I don't think so.

What are you so butt-hurt about?

I said: Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

Batman Origins: Thomas and Martha Wayne get shot. Bruce travels around the world to be get skills and be Batman.

Superman Origins: A motherfuckin planet friggin explodes and a child is rocketed to a different planet where he discovers all the superhuman powers he has.

I respect the opinions of my fellow viners, but please don't try to be too much of a fanboy.

#36 Posted by NewComicGuy (78 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

The trailer is fantastic and if I were to base it off of that, then it seems as though it will be. However, it's Superman and he's nearly impossible to put on the big screen and appease everyone. I can't wait to find out though!

#37 Posted by John Valentine (15777 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@NewComicGuy said:

The trailer is fantastic and if I were to base it off of that, then it seems as though it will be. However, it's Superman and he's nearly impossible to put on the big screen and appease everyone. I can't wait to find out though!

Zach Snyder's great at trailers, them films themselves....

#38 Posted by guttridgeb (4323 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Yes. Its Superman.

#39 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1355 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Good trailer...but im in the minority: No

#40 Posted by John Valentine (15777 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@guttridgeb said:

Yes. Its Superman.

Have you ever heard of a film called Superman Returns?

#41 Posted by guttridgeb (4323 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

@guttridgeb said:

Yes. Its Superman directed by Zack Snyder and co-written by Christopher Nolan.

Have you ever heard of a film called Superman Returns?

Amended :P

#42 Posted by Lvenger (8228 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

I hope it will be. So far so good it would seem.

#43 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@sinestro_GL said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Pokeysteve said:

Probably. Batman Begins was a crime story with "Batman" in it. Batman could have easily been replaced by any generic hero and it would of worked.

No,any other generic hero would have killed the prisoner at Ra's discretion.As correctly pointed out Begins got in to the philosophy of what it takes and means to be Batman better than any superhero movie.

@sinestro_GL said:

Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

So I vote yes

Mask of the Phantasm would beg to differ,and Year:One is held in higher regard than the Superman Origins.

Did you read what I said? I don't think so.

What are you so butt-hurt about?

I said: Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

Batman Origins: Thomas and Martha Wayne get shot. Bruce travels around the world to be get skills and be Batman.

Superman Origins: A motherfuckin planet friggin explodes and a child is rocketed to a different planet where he discovers all the superhuman powers he has.

I respect the opinions of my fellow viners, but please don't try to be too much of a fanboy.

Maybe you should read your original statement

"Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

So I vote yes"

Emphasis on the words in bold,you claimed that MOS would be better just based on those 2 lines of Supe's and Bat's origins that you wrote.I'm sure there's more to these films than that,and me butt hurt? pretty sure you're the guy who was telling people not to vote for TDKR in the CV movie award forum.

As for me being a fanboy, look at my first post and then you'll see if I am fanboy or not.

#44 Posted by Billy Batson (54323 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

I don't get these kind of threads. How would anyone know? And these things are subjective.
BB

#45 Posted by sinestro_GL (1369 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@sinestro_GL said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Pokeysteve said:

Probably. Batman Begins was a crime story with "Batman" in it. Batman could have easily been replaced by any generic hero and it would of worked.

No,any other generic hero would have killed the prisoner at Ra's discretion.As correctly pointed out Begins got in to the philosophy of what it takes and means to be Batman better than any superhero movie.

@sinestro_GL said:

Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

So I vote yes

Mask of the Phantasm would beg to differ,and Year:One is held in higher regard than the Superman Origins.

Did you read what I said? I don't think so.

What are you so butt-hurt about?

I said: Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

Batman Origins: Thomas and Martha Wayne get shot. Bruce travels around the world to be get skills and be Batman.

Superman Origins: A motherfuckin planet friggin explodes and a child is rocketed to a different planet where he discovers all the superhuman powers he has.

I respect the opinions of my fellow viners, but please don't try to be too much of a fanboy.

Maybe you should read your original statement

"Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

So I vote yes"

Emphasis on the words in bold,you claimed that MOS would be better just based on those 2 lines of Supe's and Bat's origins that you wrote.I'm sure there's more to these films than that,and me butt hurt? pretty sure you're the guy who was telling people not to vote for TDKR in the CV movie award forum.

As for me being a fanboy, look at my first post and then you'll see if I am fanboy or not.

Based on the ONE line I wrote about Superman alone, you can make a 2.5 hour film.

If you are not familiar with the word spectacular, it means "Of the nature of a spectacle; impressive or sensational". So yes, based on MY ORIGINAL COMMENT, this is the reason I believe MOS may be better than Batman Begins, in my own damn opinion.

Numero 2: Yes, I am the same guy that said that TDKR wasn't the best of the comic book films this year, so? It's called a vote for a reason.

...and as for you being a fanboy, let's look at the evidence: In the CV movie award forum, I vote against TDKR and you get on my case about it. On this thread, I say that MOS can be better than Batman Begins, and then here you go again getting in my face about it.

#46 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@sinestro_GL: I never asked nor forced you to vote for something nor did I question the judgement of people who did vote for something that I didn't ,you on the other hand did precisely that.

So who's the fanboy now?

#47 Posted by sinestro_GL (1369 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@sinestro_GL: I never asked nor forced you to vote for something nor did I question the judgement of people who did vote for something that I didn't ,you on the other hand did precisely that.

So who's the fanboy now?

Let me remind you:

@sinestro_GL said:

Superman origins tend to be more spectacular than Batman origins.

So I vote yes

said:

Mask of the Phantasm would beg to differ,and Year:One is held in higher regard than the Superman Origins.
#48 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@sinestro_GL: Thanks for the reminder but I wasn't referring to that.

I took exception to your statement implying that on virtue of Supermans origins alone MOS would surpass BB,it's a misinformed comment.

As for me I chose not to vote,it could happen time will tell.

#49 Posted by The Stegman (12924 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
I hope so.
#50 Posted by ReVamp (22561 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Hmmm... Batman Begins wasn't that amazing. But perhaps I'm vastly underestimating it due to the monsters that were TDK and TDKR.

Then again, I am expecting immensely large things from the movie, hopefully it'll get me to read Superman.

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