Why they had Iron Man build Ultron

I was thinking about this, and after watching that awful omelet scene, I came to an enlightening conclusion: the reason that they made this change was literally narrative laziness!

Think about it: all Whedon can write is snark, and not even intelligently. Thus, he needed a reason for why Ultron, a character who should sound (in voice, dialogue, and characterization) more like Shockwave and Soundwave from Transformers, would speak with the same generic snark that Iron Man speaks with.

Literally, listen to Ultron's awful dialogue, and tell me that it wouldn't sound right at home coming out of RDJ's mouth!

I agree, he is just a robot version of Stark. He has so much potential as well.

@wrglfan2814: I wasn't even hyped for this movie, and I'm disappointed.

Can you imagine what people who actually wanted to see it feel like? Honestly, can you blame the hate?!!

This ain't marvel hate, just whedon hate and that is fine

no love for the cuck

@vivide: my love, how I yearn for thee!!

@gjgp27: Spader is a good actor though

@vivide: sadly, so are most MCU villain actors. Eccleston and Kingsley are good actors, too. They were also wasted.

@gjgp27: the interactions are enough to rake in big profits

@vivide: sadly, yes

@gjgp27: I don't mind if avengers use the formula. they can do the other stuff in GoTG and Daredevil

@vivide: what formula?

Other than the first trailer Ultron's dialogue has been pretty bad I must say.

I couldn't tell who was saying what in that scene.

@xwraith: lol

Hehehe. You may be right.

Still amped for this film thou.

Beata

@spidey_jackson: your numbers are falling

I don't see what the problem with Ulron's dialogue is. I don't think he sounds like Stark. But if he does I'm gonna say it's because Whedon is a genius and willed it that way lol.

@gjgp27: their formula

Why the heck is Whedon seen as a genius?

Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Astonishing X-Men.....but his MCU work doesn't even begin to compare IMO

@buttersdaman000: even those shows ain;t great. Pretty good, yeah. Great? no....................

Whedon is incapable of writing good villains, his writing style is always way too ingrained in each character, the most threatening villain will make a bad joke or have to be unnecessarily snarky at times.

A lot of people would disagree though, myself included, hence Joss being seen as a genius.

@buttersdaman000: Whedon is a genius? And your arguments are Buffy, Firefly and Avengers? No, dude. Orson Welles, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Andrei Tarkovsky are geniuses. Whedon is not even close to that level.

@fuzzylittlerodent: Whedon is not Spielberg, Cameron, Scorcese, or Ridley Scott (in his prime)

.....I specifically said his MCU work doesn't compare.....and why are you comparing authors to Whedon?? Whedon is not an author.......

@gjgp27: exactly

@buttersdaman000: Because I find the belief that Whedon is some sort of genius extremely laughable

You're comparing apples and oranges....

You wouldn't judge an actor on a Directors scale, so why are you judging a screen writer/showrunner on an authors scale??? You can find it laughable all you want, but you haven't even begun to back your position. If it's just your opinion, then fine, but you're in a very small minority. And, FTR, no one believes he's a genius in the traditional sense. He's just very good at what he does...except in the MCU.

@buttersdaman000: Who the hell in that list was an author?

Ha you're right. I saw Orson and just thought of Enders game lol my bad

My excuse is that i'm in class and dividing my attention lol

That's exactly what I was thinking.

@jonny_anonymous: IT'S NIGHTMARE TIME

@buttersdaman000: wait, what? What are you talking about? Authors? As in book writers? Every single one of them are screen writersand directors, just like Joss is the director and head writer of most of hisprojects. Thus, I have every right to compare Whedon to them. And whad do you mean I haven't backed up my opinion? Their names alone speak more than a thousand words.

Look above, I already admitted my mistake. I was in class, replying on my phone, and immediately connected "Orson" with Enders Game before I replied. But, my point still stands about the usage of the word "genius" in this situation. And, furthermore, you wouldn't stop calling Steve Jobs a genius just because Einstein was one as well, right? Or you wouldn't call Kyrie Irving a decent player, just because MJ was a great one, would you? Joss can still be referred to as a "genius" just as much as Kubrick and the rest without hurting their reputation or even suggesting Joss is as good as them.

Doesn't Ultron have Tony's brain patterns ?

@gjgp27: Sure his voice is alittle weird, but he still has great dialouge.

Beata

@gjgp27: I want to see it and I still want to see it, it looks fantastic.

that ultron voice may deter me

@masterkungfu: damn the voice, that dialogue is brown, festering, fly infested $h1t!!!!!!!!!!

1 clip clearly means the whole movie is shite, dontcha know?

Whats up with all the MCU hate today?

@rd189: Anything the MCU does will always get sh*t over stupid things, but if the DCCU does something stupid it's forgivable because *insert bias excuse here*

It's all the same cry baby bs that makes them question a whole movie based on one or two clips.

Ultron is not actually going to sound like he did in the omelet scene!! That was a pre edited scene so everyone can calm down about his voice

@panthers8901: will the dialogue be edited?

In one of the TV spots Ultron says "it's nightmare time" I cringed so hard

@kfabz-23: it is a brick to the nuts