I was thinking about the Justice League earlier today. And the thing is that, that's a group that has Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Green Lantern, The Flash, and all sorts of awesome superheroes on it right? Why is the Green Arrow on this team? He has no superpowers or can fly or anything. The ONLY thing this guy can do is shoot arrows. That's it. Why would they want a guy like that on the Justice League of America? C'mon! If they're looking for a ranged weapon, Superman has freakin' eye lasers. Superman could have his own freaking team of just Superman. They should change the name to the JSfA: Just Superman for America. I would think Green Arrow would be in their maybe list if Batman had to go to the dentist or Green Lantern had to go on a date, but otherwise what is he doing there? I get why they would want Aquaman, the world is mostly covered in water and he's got Super Strength and can take a hit and can talk to animals, I get it. I even get the Atom, he can make himself smaller and stuff, I could see why you would want to use him. But, Green Arrow?

And another thing, don't arrows kill people? I thought they don't like that. I'm pretty sure that the Justice League is against killing people. So, you have a hero who has no superpowers, who could easily be replaced by Superman using heat vision and who might kill people. I see no positive thought in this.

Oh and did I fail to mention that he died once? Yeah and not in a cool way like punching Doomsday to death or jumping in between a bullet and a puppy. He died when the plane he was on blew up. That's it. There can be no one saying, he died fighting the good fight, he died probably as he was moving his seat into an upright position. And then he came back to life. For no particular reason. Can't they just leave him dead? I mean seriously!How is he a superhero? Was it like the other superheroes were going off to have fun and one of their moms said 'Take Green Arrow with you.' And they said 'But Moooooom.' And their mom said 'He doesn't have any friends, just give him an easy mission and make him feel special.' And they said 'Fine.' That's the only way I can figure it.Get your head in the game Green Arrow, nobody likes you.

Everything posted above was found from a site I saw and it really opens your eyes to how bad this guy is. Think to yourselves guys what is the last notable feat this guy has done that is actually worth mentioning. It really ticks me off how they allowed Green Arrow to beat deathstroke in the show Arrow. It was absolute piss and I just find it funny when I think about how bad he would get destroyed going against spiderman. If you guys agree with me then please just post what you think is the worst thing about this guy. If you don't agree then show me why green arrow is a good character.

That's why he's not on the justice league

Green Arrow died fighting terrorists, noob.

@smashbrawler: Ollie always dies. We had two Green Arrow funerals in the span of a few months. One in Injustice, and another in Future's End. Plus there was a whole month where we thought Ollie was dead in his own book thanks to a cliffhanger ending.

You're reading GA too?

@xwraith: Pfft. Of course!

Glad to hear. That's one of my two favorite books.

@spideyivydaredevilfan26 said:

Every thing I said in a nutshell

You put so much effort in that, if only it were spent on something productive.

@smashbrawler said:

Green Arrow died fighting terrorists, noob.

dam superman cant do sh*t right i mean killing zod when he could just put his hand on this eyes and not saveing someone from a bomb blast that he could easy with speed dam superman you suck

batman would have saved green arrow

it's funny, this was said by Green Lantern in the New 52, he then leaned over to Bats and said not really. Funny thing GA then goes on to prove he's worthy of making the JLA. Supes even mention the underdog shouldn't be underestimated.

he is like brideye form avengers not a main hero unlike superman who could be his own team and still fail

They need a token rich human on the off chance Batman disappeared(I was almost going to say die). There's also a facial hair quota they have to meet every once in awhile and Aquaman's only comes out on special occasions.

yea i think both GA and Aquaman are underrated. pre 52 GA's books hit a rhythm you can't find in any other. new 52 his tech and skills show further then anytime before. now clearly one of the most skilled characters in the comics.

Aquaman is just underrated. post/new 52 he was always on a level that wasn't given credit for his capabilities.

@feartheliving: Yup, Hawkeye is from the second oldest lineup of Avengers and was a part of one of the first ever major team change-ups in comic history. Also, he was leader of Thunderbolts at one stage, right?

Sounds like someone needs to pick up a few more comics featuring Green Arrow.

Post up a notable or good person that Green arrow can beat and then afterwards search up if a thread has been made for it. If so post it up.

@feartheliving said:

@spidermangoku said:

@kasino said:

@everythingcomics said:

I would think Green Arrow would be in their maybe list if Batman had to go to the dentist or Green Lantern had to go on a date

it's funny, this was said by Green Lantern in the New 52, he then leaned over to Bats and said not really. Funny thing GA then goes on to prove he's worthy of making the JLA. Supes even mention the underdog shouldn't be underestimated.

he is like brideye form avengers not a main hero unlike superman who could be his own team and still fail

hawkeye is better than green arrow yes

is he as main streem as iron fist becouse that guy in all the comics right?

"dam superman cant do sh*t right i mean killing zod when he could just put his hand on this eyes and not saveing someone from a bomb blast that he could easy with speed dam superman you suck"

"batman would have saved green arrow"

green arrow>superman>hawkeye>batman

I am assuming you have read a lot of his comics so post up a feat for him that batman, nightwing, captain america, hawkeye and redhood could not do better.

@everythingcomics: Holds up his own fighting Batman ---> http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111130781/3612933-0345317959-33177.jpg

Remember the time he went head to head with Deathstroke? ---> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4710720619_d5c47f4cf4.jpg

Then stabbed Deathstroke's eye? ---> http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Green-Arrow-Deathstroke.jpg

Longest Leadership/Founder in West Coast Avengers and Lead Thunderbolts for a spell/guided them to remain on the right side of the law.

1.Batman

2.Nightwing

3.Bullseye

4.redhood

5.spiderman

6.constantine

7.Tony stark

8.Reed Richards

9.Dr doom

10.steve rodgers

11.shang chi

12.iron fist

13.wolverine

14.cyclops

15.slade wilson

16.Dead pool-wade wilson

17.lex luthor

18.Dr octopus

19.mirror master

20. Squirrel Girl

All these people are more skilled than Green arrow and thats just off the top of my head. Please don't say that again.

@spidermangoku: That's a joke by Matt Fraction because he also wrote Iron Fist and he and Hawkeye due to the art look pretty similar. Has nothing to do with Iron Fist being more popular. You're other part I have no idea what you're talking about.

I know. It's the only big two book you're reading. I'm positive we've talked about it before.

@everythingcomics: Do feats really matter?

Deathstroke wanted green arrow to beat him. It was a part of his plan. Also what comic was that when he stabbed green arrow and batman has held his own against superman but that doesn't mean anything superman still out classes batman. Just as he out classes Green arrow.

It's not going to be the case a week from now (when Rocket Raccoon comes out).

Yes feats do matter they are what define the character in terms of how formidable they are.

Ah. Good 2nd choice.

@feartheliving: Bit off-topic: But am I the only one who misses his old purple costume?

Sentry may be be more powerful than Sherlock Holmes, but he sure as hell ain't as well-written. That's all that matters with a character, it's how they'll get remembered.

But the one that's actually my other favorite book is TMNT.

Green arrow held his own a little bit here but at the end what happened

I'm aware. I can't get into it myself. Just doesn't appeal to me.

No. I like his more classic look but I don't exactly hate his new look either. I guess to me it's more about the character not so much the costume he's wearing (unless he's wearing his manskirt costume again, burn that one in pits of hell). Maybe one day it'll make a come back.

Feats play a lot into how a character will get remembered. Look at characters like john constantine his feats are a pretty big part of how he is remembered.

@feartheliving: Yeah, it's just my mind subconsciously tends to dissociate this Clint as a different character from the one I grew up with.

See I disagree. When I think of Spider-Man the first thing that comes to mind is the CHARACTER of Peter Parker. Not how well he's fought against Venom, or Morlun, or any other villain or hero. It's his stories, and the personality of the character and what he stands for. And this comes from a fight fan, who loves seeing a good on-panel throwdown. But it doesn't matter what they do on panel to me if their story is poorly written or the character isn't relatable. I'm not an anomaly either, I think most fans are this way.

@everythingcomics: No... I think it's mainly because Hellblazer was a well-written title. But, then again I'm arguing with a troll, so what's the point?

Spider-man is a good character. Why? Because the way he got his powers is original, he was well written and there is no one who can do what spider-man does the way he does it. He is completely different. Lets look at how that applies to green arrow.

1. Green arrow is just a failed batman.(he's rich, has gear, and became a hero when his parents were killed)

2. Green arrow is not original. I don't know if a character that shoots arrows is really that original.

3. He is not the best at anything. There are so many characters that can do what he can. Sherlock Holmes is known for being the worlds greatest detective no one else can do what he does like he does it. What can Green arrow do that no else can't?

How is this a troll thread? there are people out there who agree with what I say. The first half of the post at the beginning of the thread wasn't even mine I got it from someone else who agreed with me. If you believe Green Arrow is a good character then make an argument as to why no one else can do what green arrow does.

@everythingcomics: He's Oliver Queen, that's just it. He has his own story that no one else has. Does that mean that the character wasn't inspired by something that previously existed? No of course not. But Ollie's story is unique to Ollie. You comparison is like saying Dick Grayson or Jason Todd are worthless characters because they do all the things Batman does just not as well. Which simply isn't true, they have their own story to tell.

It's not what a character DOES, it's how he goes about doing it.

@granitesoldier:

Tell me something green arrow can do that no else can do the exact way he does it. Also Green arrow seems to be inspired off of a lot of characters He starts off with robin hood and then a little bit of peter pan.