why is Batman vs Galactus not a simple matter?

@mysticmedivh: do you think there's any human who can match reed in prep?

@jayc1324 said:

Doctor Doom, Kang the Conqueror. John Constantine is also pretty damn good in his own unique way.

Hey sand spider, do you think Batman has a chance against Galactus? Any?

look batwankers I am about to infuse you with some knowlege. so listen up kiddies. batman is just a rich guy in a bat suit. he aint got nothin on reed who is a legit genius. reed knew big G was comin so he built to nullifier. i dont think batman is smart enough to build it or use it. you have to be a genius to use it. batman could buy it i guess but he aint smart enough to use tho. batman aint got the pis no more galactus is to smart for him.

If Reed can beat Galactus by finding up the Ultimate Nullifier, I don't see why Batman can't do the same.

Reed did not build the nullifier. I thought I'd make that point gently. If I was a fan who actually cared about Batman's "prep" abilities compared to Reed's, I would have been less gentle.

i thougt he did. i know he did build one in a later issue tho. even still reed is a legit genius and could understand how it worked so he could use. batman dont understand how it work. he just a rich guy with a bunch of money to buy training.

dr. doom, thanos, black panther, rocket raccoon....all legit geniuses

Human.

Black Panther is inferior to Reed, Thanos isn't a human, Rocket Racoon isn't a genius nor is he a human.

Doom is the only valid answer you gave.

@thanosrulz: Naw. Reed never built it.

Galactus vs Batman ends in sex every time.

ok. i get you. fair enough. but you were saying john contantine. the guy doesnt know anything about science. he isnt a genius. he just a con man. black panther knows the science.

but do u agree he had to know how it worked to use it? cause u have to be a genius to use the nullifier?

John Constantine doesn't compare to Reed in terms of science and tech, however, he is renowned for being a prep master, and where he lacks in science and tech he gains in magic.

Yes, I agree that Reed has the capability to use the Ultimate Nullifier.

sorry to keep askin you all these questions, but

1. is John Constantine's magic and prep better than Doom?

2. you are saying you have to be a genius to use the nullifier?

I admit that I am not an expert in regards to the Nullifier, so I cannot say whether it requires you to be a genius or not (I don't remember it being said that you have to be a genius in order to use the Nullifier is what I mean, though if you have a scan or something that would be geat). However, Reed himself is a super genius nonetheless.

I would say that in a prep battle Doom would defeat John Constantine, in terms of pure magic, I'd lean towards Constantine.

He is smarter than Stark, as proven in the recent volumes of GotG. Although, to be fair, Stark isn't too smart either - his intelligence pales in front of people like Reed, Doom, Banner, Pym or Parker.

OP: You, to put it bluntly, seem to be a dumb@$$. Batman is nowhere near smart enough to defeat Galactus, and his strategic knowledge would do nothing to help him from being destroyed. Sorry batwankers.

Batman with prep solos.

Since the maturity of this thread has sunken to absolute zero, I will make a few things clear that everyone seems to be missing.

1. Has anyone read the FF issue when they take on Galactus?

Here is the chain of event:

The Watcher appears and tells the FF of the Ultimate Nullifier-->The Human Torch under the guidance of the Watcher retrieves the UN from Galactus's ship-->Johnny hands the UN to Reed-->Reed tells Galactus to back off otherwise he will activate it and destroy the Universe(?)-->Galactus leaves.

Now, does any of that require a genius level IQ to pull off? NOPE!

Could Batman follow instructions and get Galactus to back off with the UN? Yep. However, MOST heroes could pull of getting and using the UN with the Watchers instructions.

The FF retrieval and usage of the UN was not impressive at all.

thank you for that infusing the vine with knowledge thats what its all about.

Goku solos !

What ? -_-

Galactus creams Bat if we go by their actual "stats" such as they are but like 99.9% of heroes Batman would have plot armour and thus finds a way to defy Galactus even when he shouldn't be able to do squat.

It's as simple as that. No big mystery.

@mysticmedivh: Nullifier doesn't really require anything but to point it the right way apparently, since even Sam Alexander was able to use one and While Rocket Raccoon may not be genius in the way Reed is his still better at maths than Stark and genius in strategy according to Abnett & Lanning in interview.

I have not read the whole issue. The Nullifier was mentioned on Galactus' page in the FF4 ultimate guide which I borrowed from the library a long time ago

Galactus is still vastly out of league of what batman could do with five decades of prep. Get over it.

I think op meant to create "Bruce's intelligence vs reed's"

@ninjawarrior268: As everyone here has already mentioned....the only reason Marvel Earth still exist today is do to Uatu the Watcher who decided to help Earth by telling/helping the FF find the Ultimate Nullifier, which they then used to threaten Galactus. so if Uatu help Batman...then yes, if not...then no, Batman gets owned.

@wrglfan2814: agreed, just shoot batman in the mouth with an explosive around and end it.

IMO galactus shouldn't really be defeated via any prep means

countless alien civilizations far more advanced than earth have failed yet earth survives sometimes thanks to just one smart individual

If only WenjunChew was still here to see this thread

oh wow another thread that has Galactus not thinking just being a target dummy.

1 dimensional being with no ability to think. wow boring.

Yep.

Reed Richards doesn't fare better than Batman does in fighting Galactus.

I've noticed a lot of users here, due to their Batman hate, tend to focus on the idea of "Batman vs Galactus" than on the very first fallacy that "Reed Richards vs Galactus" is just about as equally flawed.

Give it up . Batman haters.

Reed Richards of an alternate universe showed ability to threat life of the sh**t of the combined power of the most powerful abstracts including Living Tribunal, and he did it with his own intelligence, no outside help. When did Batman, or any other alternate version of him do something even close to this

Spoilers down :

I can't remember the issue, but it was the one when Galactus merged with Silver Surfer into a new being.

I think its because the UN doesn't exist in DC

Batman gets his hand on the spear of destiny and wears a green lantern ring and uses a Mother Box. Then he uses the spear of destiny to kill galactus. End of the story. btw spear of destiny is something powerful enough to kill Spectre. Spectre>>>>>>>>>>>>Galactus
but then again with a mother box n spear of destiny pretty much anyone can beat Galactus.

Trollolololololol

@jayc1324: actually not everyone can use the UN, have you ever read a FF comic

Galactus would utterly destroy Batman. Now, the real kicker is 'Storm vs Galactus'; that ain't no simple matter.

@AssertingValor: Why can't anyone use it

@jayc1324: only those with extreme focus or concentration n such, otherwise you will be destroyed along with whatever you aim at

@AssertingValor: Didn't know that, I haven't read a FF comic in years.

Batman is smarter than the Presence and the One Above All, so I don't see why he wouldn't be able to beat Galactus.

Batman is pure PIS... so ... 9=8

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The Ultimate Nullifier exists in the MU. Batman would never find it.

@jayc1324: I read every issue from 1961 to 2006 lol