im a dc fan but i like marvel and if you think everybody thinks marvel is better than DC that just depends on what sorta people you hang around
Apparently i'm part of the 'nobody" group that likes DC better overall.
Imo among Action Comics, everything going on with Batman, and The new Flash series that DC is just killing it right now.
But Marvel has their goods too. Jonathan Hickman is a FORCE to be reckoned with for sure.
Anyways, hopefully making this thread helped you connect with some other people that don't necessarily like Marvel better :)
I am one, who like both DC and marvel,DC has strong characters who what they represent that can leave huge imprints on people, but is sometimes DC writers are very lazy with stories that combine with the continuity errors that have often that can mixed up anyone who are just trying out their comic. Though at least DC is trying to fix that. Marvel is more connected many events that happen tens to affect the entire continuity without to much of a need to explain, marvel character tent to also have strong emotional background that with often play a huge part for that character. Though marvel writers from time to time( a lot lately) will also come up with horrible stories that do nothing but ruin that character. So both DC and marvel have there pros and their cons they both like to copy off each other that no secret.
DC is more complicated i feel...and Marvel to me seems really goofy cause of the alliterations in the heroes names...yea i know some dc guys have alliterations but seriously Peter Parker is lame. lol. Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, Ollie Queen, Ray Palmer good strong names.
" I thought it was the other way around on this site!! aside from hulk and deapool fans......................................... "oh nonononono. 5 to 1 for Marvel on comicvine. And it screws the debates because all the Marvel fans think DC heroes are waaaaay stronger than they are.
Perplexingly I find the question, is why do people like to generalize each other and themselves in such absolute, over simplified terms. Marvel and DC isn't like boys and girls. Who do most boys like girls more than boys, *loud and aggressive scream* I understand competitiveness, and liking something so much you try and undermine the things its in competition with, and this is actually true in quite a lot of contexts in comics. I have known some Storm fans who try and emphasis how she is such a positive female role model, but Rogue and Jean weren't, and so Storm was better. Or alternatively, ask why more people like Jean, under the impression Storm should be more popular, liked, or the impression that someone can't be both a fan of Jean or Storm, or impartial to both, or like neither, anything that isn't love or hate. Apply this to writers as well? Why does everybody like Morrison more than Fraction, Pak more than Loeb, teams? X-Men over Avengers, JLA over JSA, and companies. Marvel over DC, or DC over Marvel? The bigger you go, the broader you get. The more generalized the points and arguments and the stranger I find anyone trying to claim exclusivity with positives or negatives with either company, and usually the more subjective the evaluation.
" Perplexingly I find the question, is why do people like to generalize each other and themselves in such absolute, over simplified terms. Marvel and DC isn't like boys and girls. Who do most boys like girls more than boys, *loud and aggressive scream* I understand competitiveness, and liking something so much you try and undermine the things its in competition with, and this is actually true in quite a lot of contexts in comics. I have known some Storm fans who try and emphasis how she is such a positive female role model, but Rogue and Jean weren't, and so Storm was better. Or alternatively, ask why more people like Jean, under the impression Storm should be more popular, liked, or the impression that someone can't be both a fan of Jean or Storm, or impartial to both, or like neither, anything that isn't love or hate. Apply this to writers as well? Why does everybody like Morrison more than Fraction, Pak more than Loeb, teams? X-Men over Avengers, JLA over JSA, and companies. Marvel over DC, or DC over Marvel? The bigger you go, the broader you get. The more generalized the points and arguments and the stranger I find anyone trying to claim exclusivity with positives or negatives with either company, and usually the more subjective the evaluation.takes 10 minutes, but it's worth itI know Marvel, what I would consider Marvel fan boys who think DC doesn't have any flawed characters? Yet do they read Secret Six? No. They are just appeasing their own ignorance of some very great DC examples of a book led with flawed characters. Its good not because they are flawed characters, but the writing. Its a good example of writing flawed characters, they will be bad examples as well. Likewise I know DC fans, what I would consider fan boys who think Marvel is kids stuff and not complicated and do they read X-Factor? Shield? Its the same thing as the Marvel fan.Another thing I find perplexing is people noting finding a character relatable to so foolishly thinking that means you can't relate to a character. People seriously aren't that limited in their thinking are they? Do they literally think characters are designed specifically for them? What you find relatable in a character is relative! Its suppose to differ by design. I can't walk in the middle of a sun, but I like martial arts and history and I have an appreciation of scale. So Thor I can't relate to, because he is a warrior type. Hercules too. They consider battle a healthy and positive thing. I consider boxing and MMA the same way. I can relate to them more than I can with Spider-man, that doesn't mean I think Spider-man isn't relatable. I can see how he is quite easily. Just not for me, but shock horror the world does not revolve around me. Lots of DC characters, I and others can relate to as well. Thats not the only reason people like characters either.So ultimately not everyone likes Marvel better than DC, and the reason some do, is the same reason you like DC more, only a little bit different, just like every single other thing ever in life. (I like girls... girls are sort of like boys, except they smell better, look better, and have some small but important physical differences... but they still have two legs, two arms, a head, skin, blood, eyes, mouths, blood, emotions... their are more similarities than differences - Marvel and DC has even more similarities than differences)Now that only bit part that makes a more predominant Marvel fan over DC? Well... I think its the characters. DC has three über iconic characters. I tend to think a lot of their readership, casual fans, are drawn into DC because of those characters. This is not a good or bad thing. It like would require Marvel's top ten to 15 characters to maybe equal the same amount of fans. This actually creates an interesting dynamic though, because characters can be gateways into other characters, and so your creating a bigger fan to your products. Or to provide an example, what DC is doing right now/and has been doing with Green Lantern is huge and great and effectively creating another cornerstone character/franchise that has the potential to grow and become a character seen in 40 years like Batman/Superman/WW are now. What is happening to Green Lantern now is better for DC as a whole. Its making a bunch of other new characters pretty popular and well liked. Various Lanterns? Lantern Corps. Might just be a phase... Marvel sort of had Spider-man and Hulk, X-Men, including Wolverine? Though none of them were on the level of say Batman/Superman. Still Marvel had enough medium level franchises to sort of hold a dominant position. I feel they have fluctuated though. Recent years Avengers has risen, though X-Men have fallen somewhat. Deadpool was a phase and could have been used much better... Thor could get big maybe... still, I tend to think Marvel has more accessible characters, the right type of characters too, and most casual fans are either fans of a certain number of characters or writers, and so story quality won't matter. Now forum type fans are a different breed..."
I like both Marvel and DC but face it people like Marvel more because Marvel was more revolutionary. Marvel came to us with the anti-hero characters after Nam' and made Comics deeper. DC is good and all but don't you get sick of the whole "we have to save the world plot"
As far as mainstream hero comics go I prefer Marvel (though right now they're a fucking up on all kinds of levels). DC's heroes, outside of a select few, always bored me when I was younger. They were too powerful, too clean, too generic if you get me. I could relate to a Peter Parker more than Superman. I could relate to Thor more than Superman. Honestly, I'm not too invested in superhero comics I'll take an indy or a book from Image/Vertigo any day. Their works are far more interesting, challenging, and engaging. If I never read another Marvel or DC title for the rest of my life I could live happily. If I had to choose one of the big two at the moment I'd go with DC because the screwing up least, they at least have titles like Xombi & T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents going to keep me interested. Both need to seriously cease and desist with the company wide events though. Also one major advantage Marvel holds for readers is that there overall universe is far easier to comprehend and connect with. DC's reset their character's history twice forcing readers to deal with pre/post crisis origins and pre-post-post crisis origins.
" a better question would be, why do so many people only read Marvel and DC? "Bong bong, my man. Honestly the overall quality of both companies comics pales in comparison to Image/Vertigo. That's not counting all the other companies out there.
eh i tend to like Dc more than marvel because the characters are in my opinion..just better, i see Dc as having superheroes while marvel has jerks with superpowers who occasionally stop with their own petty problems to do something heroic, but that being said...Spider-man is my all time favorite superhero...EVER...i can make a list on why i like that dude
I'll be blunt here and say I really don't like DC at all. Batman movies and his animated series were okay but I never really cared for his comics for the most part. The vast majority of marvel I could honestly care less about you could kill off the avengers, x-men, Spiderman, Fantastic Four, Hulk, etc. and I would consider that a good thing. Now there are only a few characters in marvel I like the obvious being the Punisher but I'm referring to Punisher's MAX series which is a different beast than the 616 Punisher. I do like the 616 Punisher but it's not MAX. To me DC just can't hold a candle to the MAX imprint of Punisher and Nick Fury. Not to say all the different MAX comics were good because more than a few of them sucked it's just that I prefer Punisher's MAX series and soon to be Nick Fury MAX series a lot more than anything else out there right now.
I like a lot of characters from both DC and Marvel, but I only read DC books. I've said it a few times, I have always had a better knowledge of all things DC, so it made them easier for me to get into. I still read Marvel time and again and enjoy it, but with the exception of Spider-Man and the X-Men, I really don't have much clue what's going on, but that's not a detractor, the movies don't hurt either.
Each published their fair share of crap.Also this, although purely based on preference, it is very true, it's not like either of them are constantly putting out gold.