Why does DC only like Dick & Damian?

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#1  Edited By DarthAznable

It's strange how they haven't mentioned Tim Drake or Jason Todd in their recent animated movies. Dick even makes a comment during Batman vs Robin about him being the only Robin in his own eyes. I know Tim Drake has actually gotten a decent amount of exposure before the new 52 animated movies with his role as Robin in New Batman Adventures and Young Justice. Jason Todd however has gotten minimal. He gets briefly mentioned in YJ and a brief cameo in Teen Titans. Oh and the Red Hood movie which is one if not, their best animated Batman movie.

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Tim on the other hand had an incredibly long running solo series that made the Robin character less of a joke and established him as his own character.

With DC's hardon for Damian, it feels as though none of the other Robins even mattered at this point. Even Dick isn't that important either tbh but he at least exists. DC why do this to my two favorite Batfamily members?

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Because they're the only Robins worth a damn.

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Not sure. Nightwing is easy to market I guess and Damian had the appeal of being Batman's biological son. Tim Drake is Robin in the Arkham series though, that's something.

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I want to see Jason Todd.

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Cause their idiots

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Tim's gotten a nice bit of exposure over the years in cartoons, not to mention being the leader of the Teen Titans in the comics for the last several years.

Jason doesn't get much because his only historical significance is getting murdered horribly (sidekicks in refridgerators)

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wut

Jason Todd had a huge impact already.

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hate Damien,,,,stupid little prick...

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"only like Dick"

Lol

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Tim will always be Robin 2.0, the fill in. Nobody liked Jason as Robin, but after his revival and even today is popular. Look at how much people hate Red Hood and the outlaws, yet it's still going strong with good sales.

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#13  Edited By Spidey_Jackson

Cuz DCee iz stoopid.

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Well Nightwing is known to be a fan-favourite with his own series over the year. No idea about Damian though.

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Dick is awesome. Fck Damian.

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Jason Todd is a better version of Damian. Honestly it annoys me Batman has a child in the first place. I'm not a Damian hater, but I'm not a big fan either.

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#17  Edited By DarthAznable

@jasonhawke said:

wut

Jason Todd had a huge impact already.

Since when? DC basically forgot about him movie wise after Under the Red Hood. Don't even mention the pre order dlc bull for Arkham Knight.

@rdclip said:

Tim's gotten a nice bit of exposure over the years in cartoons, not to mention being the leader of the Teen Titans in the comics for the last several years.

Jason doesn't get much because his only historical significance is getting murdered horribly (sidekicks in refridgerators)

Please read the OP. I'm talking New 52 animated movies. You just said what I already did. Also I'm talking Red Hood, not Jason as Robin.

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Their all interesting characters to me. But I myself like Tim and Jason more. Jason is the most fascinating.

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Too many Robins, too many Batgirls, hell..too many Batmen for my tastes, but of all the Robins, Tim was my favorite. Back in the day, I always knew that Son of the Demon trade was going to lead to trouble.

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Too many Robins, too many Batgirls, hell..too many Batmen for my tastes, but of all the Robins, Tim was my favorite. Back in the day, I always knew that Son of the Demon trade was going to lead to trouble.

Now that you mention it, where are the Batgirls too? I know there's a lot of them but still. It's like the Batfamily in movies only consists of Alfred, Batman, Damian, and Dick.

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It all lies with who writes the cheques and who they like best.

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@skit said:

Tim will always be Robin 2.0, the fill in.

You mean the one that perfected and best exemplifies the role?

@moul said:

@darthaznable: Tim Drake is the worst character ever, I hate him

The average demographic of users here on CV were born between 1989 and 2009. Meaning most of us grew up with Tim as our Robin. So...I'd be careful where you sling that mud.

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@jaken7: I don't care. Tim Drake has no personality, he's just Robin. Dick grew up and became Nightwing, Jason became Red Hood, Tim became................."Red Robin" L.O.L. Pathetic.

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@moul said:

@jaken7: I don't care. Tim Drake has no personality, he's just Robin. Dick grew up and became Nightwing, Jason became Red Hood, Tim became................."Red Robin" L.O.L. Pathetic.

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You clearly haven't read any Tim Drake. LOL One of the most dynamic characters in the batfamily not having a personality. lel

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#28  Edited By JakeN7

@moul said:

@jaken7: I don't care. Tim Drake has no personality, he's just Robin. Dick grew up and became Nightwing, Jason became Red Hood, Tim became................."Red Robin" L.O.L. Pathetic.

Because he's still the best choice for the role, and was forced out of it in the first place. It's more of a transitionary persona than a complete new one. Both Dick and Jason wanted to step out of Bruce's shadow and become their own heroes (or in Jason's case, antihero). Tim didn't. He's comfortable being a Robin and the heir to Batman's mantle.

He's also been Batman before in Pre-Flashpoint, and Future's End Tim is the new canon Batman Beyond.

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I guess DC wanted to cut the fat and Fick and Damian are the ones that made the most sense to them. It's a shame for fans of Tim and Jay.

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I'd imagine Dick and Damian get the spotlight now because

- Nightwing grew up into his own character and thats largely sunk into the minds of the known mythos around Batman.

- Damian is Robin right now, same as Tim was the Robin in BTAS and the comics back in the day.

- That Tim and Jason are now off in different franchises where Batman isn't a mandatory feature.

-About Teen Titans while it was assumed it was Dick who was the Robin of the team, it's not actually been confirmed anywhere, and Robin there combined several aspects of both Dick and Tim into one, great acrobat (Dick), tech-sacy (Tim), temper (Dick), bo-staff (Tim) and a few other bits.

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-About Teen Titans while it was assumed it was Dick who was the Robin of the team, it's not actually been confirmed anywhere, and Robin there combined several aspects of both Dick and Tim into one, great acrobat (Dick), tech-sacy (Tim), temper (Dick), bo-staff (Tim) and a few other bits.

It was confirmed.

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Jason is a filthy street urchin who is supposed to end with his death

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@jaken7: Thats not really a confirmation... and the trip Raven took into his head was better :) Anyways, my point was that TT Robin was a mix of Dick and Tim, he has Dick's name and past, but he wears Tim's first costume.

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Because Dick was the original Robin, and he has the biggest fan-base out of all the Robins...Damian is "the son of Batman" and everything that has Batman's name on it, sells.

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#35  Edited By Bat_Girl_CC

If you ask me, "why does DC treats Jason, Tim, and many other characters so bad?"...then the answer is this:

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Cause their idiots

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#36  Edited By Captain13

They probably think there are too many and want to phase the others out. Tim is my favorite one though. ;-(

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@jaken7: I never said he wasn't better, just that he acts as replacement and to a certain degree, the middle child of the robins.

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#39  Edited By JakeN7

@skit said:

@jaken7: I never said he wasn't better, just that he acts as replacement and to a certain degree, the middle child of the robins.

Oh, well, yeah. True enough.

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@jaken7: Anyways, my point was that TT Robin was a mix of Dick and Tim, he has Dick's name and past, but he wears Tim's first costume.

That was also the case with the B:TAS Robin as well. It's not the same as Tim actually being in the show. These creators clearly intend for the character to be Dick Grayson, but a precedent has been set for them taking aspects of other Robins and incorporating them into Dick.

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If Tim had his own movie like Damian and Jason did, then his popularity would skyrocket too.

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#42  Edited By Telcalipoca

complicated to the people .the general audience who view the tv shows and movies dont follow comics thus dont know of the bat clan history, and to bring tim or todd you have to explain why the robin everyone knows(dick) isnt a robin. for todd you have to explain that dick quit then batman found some random kid. tim dick quit, jason died and now there he is . with damian its easy dick grew up became his own hero and batman had a son bam new robin explained.

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#43  Edited By youknowwhattodo

In the case of the Teen Titans animated show and Dick Grayson, with the exception of the equipment, the Robin that was on the show seemed to be based on the New Teen Titans Dick Grayson. Grayson in that comic was an acrobat and a leader, but he was also tech savvy, prone to anger and emotionally distant for a lot of the series. One of the key bits of character development in that series was Dick Grayson moving away from the path he was head towards as the younger version of Batman. The Dick Grayson in that comicbook (which is what a lot of the show was based on) is not the same as the Dick Grayson we have now.

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Nightwing has the appeal of being the first Robin

Damian has the appeal of being Batman's biological son...

Tim and Jason essentially have nothing...

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Red hood dlc

Red hood in suicide squad

Red hood in bvs

Red hood in future batman film

I read the op,didn't care

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@tdk_1997 said:

@thatguywithheadphones said:

Because they're the only Robins worth a damn.

Ehhh, Tim was good....kinda. :D

Tim was so plain I wouldn't call him vanilla, he was like shaved ice.

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@tdk_1997 said:

@thatguywithheadphones said:

Because they're the only Robins worth a damn.

Ehhh, Tim was good....kinda. :D

Tim was so plain I wouldn't call him vanilla, he was like shaved ice.

Hahaha, nice one. You're right there. His best days were as Red Robin.

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#49  Edited By Kramotz

well, nightwing is easy to market, as he was the first robin, fans don't like change and he simply has the most potential as a character. damian is getting the push and is being forced down fans' throats by dc/wb. i don't mind him, but i also don't like the prospect of bruce having a blood son unless it's terry mcginnis. damian's push is failing really hard, though, and more fans are starting to dislike him rather than the reverse.

tim drake is simply the worst bat son in the bat family. he's a carbon copy of bruce, doesn't have any potential as a character, and, in general, doesn't have a unique and distinguishable personality of his own; not including him in movies is a good move, as he's not a fan favorite nor does he have enough potential to be pushed like damian is. why do you think, as time passes, tim drake is gradually being fazed out and absorbed by dick grayson (a move which i am glad is becoming more popular)? in the teen titans animated series, dick was robin, but used a bo staff like and had the intellect of tim drake. in young justice, dick, as robin, was tech savvy and smart like tim, and had a robin suit similar to tim's. now, in the new 52, dick has completely stole tim drake's only claim to fame - his intelligence. like i said, good move, as that's the only defining trait about tim drake - a trait which dick can easily use in conjunction with a tenfold better character (like he has in teen titans, young justice and the new 52).

jason is simply a highly unnecessary character, like tim drake. save for under the red hood, he has no story potential, which has always been his main problem as a character. yes, he was absolutely amazing in under the red hood, but that's it; it was the only storyline he ever was good in. just like tim, jason too is being fazed out, due to being inadequate.

in general, i like what dc's doing. dick grayson will always be the most popular bat son, for good reasons, and damian is really the only other bat son (excluding terry mcginnis, of course) who is capable of getting fans out of their seats, either out of anger or excitement, and driving a compelling storyline. as @thatguywithheadphones said:

Because they're the only Robins worth a damn.

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@jasonhawke said:

wut

Jason Todd had a huge impact already.

Since when? DC basically forgot about him movie wise after Under the Red Hood. Don't even mention the pre order dlc bull for Arkham Knight.

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Tim's gotten a nice bit of exposure over the years in cartoons, not to mention being the leader of the Teen Titans in the comics for the last several years.

Jason doesn't get much because his only historical significance is getting murdered horribly (sidekicks in refridgerators)

Please read the OP. I'm talking New 52 animated movies. You just said what I already did. Also I'm talking Red Hood, not Jason as Robin.

There's only been like 4 new52 animated movies. There are at least 2 dozen more popular characters who will never get their own animated movie or even get to be in one. Just be happy Jason Todd got a movie about him at all.