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I've seen quite a lot of hate on comicvine for some of my favourite characters and these are the reasons they give:

Jean Grey - Boring

Storm - Hate her fans

Batman - Overated

Superman - Boring & Overpowered

Wolverine - Overpowered & overated

Is it really fair to hate Jean and Sups for being boring? I mean there are a lot of other boring characters out there, captain america, wonder woman & mr fantastic to name 3.

Batman I understand to a certain point. He is at the end of the day only a brilliant human. He can't beat people like Galactus or Phoenix with prep.

Wolverine, I never thought he was overpowered, he only has a powerful healing factor. Several heroes can easily beat him, even if they don't kill him. He is somewhat overated not for being a bad character at all (one of the all timr best), but for being thd "face" of the x-men

Finally Storm shouldn't be hated because people hate her fans. I don't like Hulk fans for example or Batman fans but I really like Batman and enjoy Hulk.

What do you think? Do you think people are right to hate these characters even after the points I made?

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#2  Edited By OrdinaryAlan

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. For every annoying hater you can find an equally annoying fanboy.

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Most people don't actually hate these characters. They're just not their favourites.

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Used to hate Superman then watched Man of Steel, Smallville and read a few comics. he isn't all bad just don't like his powerset. Too many.

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I can't speak for most of these, however, you have to understand the root of Storm hate: the were a very, very long trend of battles, where Storm was overrated to an astounding degree. Things like the "galactic core feat" were tossed around to justify her being compared to the likes of Heralds of Galactus (... and sometimes Galactus himself >_>). Specifically, debating veterans have bad memories, and as such, have grown to dislike Storm. It's getting better, but that's why. It came from having Storm shoved down one's throat, and having to sift through multiple pages of hyperbolic scans.

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LOL, I think it's because its a lot easier to point out everything wrong with a character, than point out everything good about them. Superman is OP though, they should somehow find a way to get a surplus of kryptonite, so he can be weakened a lot more easily.

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I don't hate anyone on that list, Now, Emma Frost and Namor on the other hand.....

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Because fanboys r never happy and hate anything

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LOL, I think it's because its a lot easier to point out everything wrong with a character, than point out everything good about them. Superman is OP though, they should somehow find a way to get a surplus of kryptonite, so he can be weakened a lot more easily.

They've done that to death. The writers need to be more creative than that.

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@alfacess:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but whenever I hear something like: "Superman doesn't kill people!".

I would tell them to look up: "The Death of Superman".

But there are fans that don't hate these characters it's just that they don't care about them.

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@life_without_progress: It's true. Which is odd, since it's regarding fandom for such noble and selfless characters.

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@alfacess said:

Is it really fair to hate Jean and Sups for being boring? I mean there are a lot of other boring characters out there, captain america, wonder woman & mr fantastic to name 3.

Yes, it is 100% fair to hate a character because you think they're boring. The existence of other boring characters does not make a character less boring.

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@squares: So that means you hate every boring character out there?

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@alfacess said:

@squares: So that means you hate every boring character out there?

That's a ridiculous question, I obviously don't know every boring character out there. Where are you going with this, anyways?

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#15  Edited By alfacess

@squares: Pretty clear. You said it's fair to hate boring characters and the existence of other boring characters doesn't make them more interesting. My point is it's unfair to hate Superman for being "boring" but like another boring character. However, everyone's entitled to their own opinions.

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Wolverine is the best X-Men so I don't see him as overrated at all.

@jedixman said:

I can't speak for most of these, however, you have to understand the root of Storm hate: the were a very, very long trend of battles, where Storm was overrated to an astounding degree. Things like the "galactic core feat" were tossed around to justify her being compared to the likes of Heralds of Galactus (... and sometimes Galactus himself >_>). Specifically, debating veterans have bad memories, and as such, have grown to dislike Storm. It's getting better, but that's why. It came from having Storm shoved down one's throat, and having to sift through multiple pages of hyperbolic scans.

Inb4 Rbysjti lol

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@alfacess said:

@squares: Pretty clear. You said it's fair to hate boring characters and the existence of other boring characters doesn't make them more interesting. My point is it's unfair to hate Superman for being "boring" but like another boring character. However, everyone's entitled to their own opinions.

Well what makes a character boring is completely subjective. I like Superman, I don't think he's boring. But if I did think he was boring I wouldn't like him. You see no one is going to like a boring character because in that person's mind that character isn't boring. So if I like a character that you think is boring but don't like another character you think is boring then that's my own personal opinion. So don't get mad if people like or don't like characters you think are boring or not.

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Just because someone is not a fan of Storm doesn't mean they hate her. They just not a HUGE fanboys or girls. And why if someone doesn't like Storm it's consider a hater? Just because you like or love a character doesn't mean other people should. This is what I hate about most people nowadays. I'm not a huge fan of Storm, but that don't mean I hate her. It just happen that I like other characters better. Clear?

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#19  Edited By alfacess

@mchotcakes: No worries, Im not getting mad at all. This was just on my mind and I was hoping to get some answers from people that might hate these characters for different reasons.

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#20  Edited By alfacess

@purepleazure4u: First of all, I said why do people hate, not why people dislike these characters. Second, I never said people who dislike storm are haters. And yeah people don't have to like the characters I do, that is true and my point. You can dislike a character, but in my opinion hating them for being "boring", "overpowered" or "overated" is in my opinion a little much. Clear?

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@alfacess said:

@purepleazure4u: First of all, I said why do people hate, not why people dislike these characters. Second, I never said people who dislike storm are haters. And yeah people don't have to like the characters I do, that is true and my point. You can dislike a character, but in my opinion hating them for being "boring", "overpowered" or "overated" is in my opinion a little much. Clear?

Not really. Because I was specifically talking about Storm where you put "Storm - Hate her fans" I assuming since the word hate is clearly there. And I went by this

"I've seen quite a lot of hate on comicvine for some of my favourite characters and these are the reasons they give:

Finally Storm shouldn't be hated because people hate her fans. I don't like Hulk fans for example or Batman fans but I really like Batman and enjoy Hulk.

What do you think? Do you think people are right to hate these characters even after the points I made?"

And that's my point. I don't think everyone "hate her fans" or what ever you mean. I like Storm and many others, but just because I vote for Emma or Jean (as an example) and not Storm... it doesn't mean I hate her. Again, I just happen to like one more than the other. I only wanted to make it clear before someone else jump in and say "Storm has many haters"

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Points!! ummmm okay. You gave opinions see how this works.

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#27  Edited By Fabulosity

Honestly, I don't think Jean was boring.

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Captain America aint boring you skank.

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#29  Edited By amazing_webhead

Nobody who calls Superman overpowered has ever read an actual Superman comic. He has dozens of enemies who can match him punch for punch.

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#30  Edited By alfacess

@fabulosity: Same here. But a lot of people do.

@AmazingWebHead: Thats very true.

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#31  Edited By alfacess

@symbioticspider-man: First of all, if you think saying Captain America is boring makes you a skank, please consult a dictionary and second he is at times, but I do really like him :)

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@alfacess said:

@fabulosity: Same here. But a lot of people do.

@AmazingWebHead: Thats very true.

I guess that's their lost lol. No matter what, she's still fabulous to us.

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Captain America aint boring you skank.

Eh, It really depends on who's writing. Which, I'm sure, is hard with characters like him and Superman who have a very strong moral compass. They can come off on-dimensional if the writer isn't careful.

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Interesting.