@pfcoolio14 said:
I know this isn't an actual battle but I guess it relates to the battle forum.
I just don't understand how the Flash beats everyone on these forums. He's incapable of doing so in the comics or on the TV shows.
He has problems with enemies like Deathstroke or Gorilla Grodd. So why is it that speedblitz makes him near invulnerable against opponents like Superman or Wonderwoman that can fly and have other powers to harm him and he hasn't been shown to be able to beat in the comics.
Wouldn't the speedblitz be hard on him. I mean if he kept punching superman, superman's reaction time isn't that far behind flash. So he could grab the dude and throw him in the air where he has no power. Or more preferably, the sun.
Doesn't that mean he should get higher level enemies like Doomsday or Ares?
Wally does have higher level enemies. Kadabra, Professor Zoom, Zoom and Mirror Master are some of the most powerful villains that any JL members has -- I'd argue that Kadabra is more powerful than anyone Superman frequently fights. He's quite seriously a reality warper that Wally typically has to outsmart to beat, or blitz before he can use his powers. Zoom and Professor Zoom have both humiliated the rest of the Justice League before using their speed.
In the same sense that he has "trouble" with Grodd and Deathstroke, Wonder Woman has trouble with Cheetah, Superman has had trouble with Toy Man, whatever -- everyone tends to play down to their villains depending on how the writer writes it.
Wally is not incapable of doing so in the comics -- he's had quite a few excellent showings, such as one shotting White Martians (Superman can't claim this), completely destroying COIE Anti Monitor's armor by himself (Again, the entirety of DC Earth couldn't pull this off), soloing Mongul (Superman can claim this, but he's also lost to Mongul before), and fighting the aforementioned recurring villains I talked about. Even in the JL Cartoon, he was the most powerful leaguer -- he defeated Luthor/Brainiac combo and he was practically unstoppable when Luthor was in his body. He was quite powerful, but his goofy demeanor and kind heart reeled him in.
Superman's reaction time is actually VASTLY slower than Wally's. Wally, at bare minimum, has picosecond reaction time as displayed several times in comics -- Superman has a nanosecond reaction time at best. A nanosecond is 1,000 times longer than a picosecond.
The reason Wally is so powerful in the battle forums is because battles aren't written by typical comic writers who come up with scenarios that limit Flash (such as him losing his memory and not remembering his powers) or just plain forget to use his powers intelligently for story purposes. Battles tend to remove writer stupidity or plot stupidity. When you compare powersets, Wally is basically a herald+ level character. Few characters in comics frequently do things in picoseconds, which means in every battle Wally always gets the first hit or wins the quick draw. Given that he has powerhouse level striking strength, he quite frequently wins battles by just infinite mass punching them. Speedblitz is not "hard" on him -- his go to method for dealing with people is super fast punching, and he only rarely hurts himself thanks to the speed force (some writers forget the speed force protects him and write it as him hurting himself when he punches at high speeds -- inconsistency in comics at its finest).
Beyond his amazing speed and high striking strength, he's also got the utterly broken Speed Steal. Being able to increase his own speed while turning his opponent's to a crawl is hilariously overpowered, and it's one of his more frequently used powers. Fact is, unless you can beat him before he uses it or are immune, it's basically impossible to beat Wally if he can speed steal you.
For opponents who are too durable for his punches and unable to be speed stolen for some reason, his final tactic is speed force dumping them. He can either drop them in an alternate reality, like he did Superboy Prime, or dump them off in the future like he did Professor Zoom. He can also, technically, dump them off at the end of time like he did the Black Flash, which would cease their existence on a fundamental level.
Also he's, albeit infrequently, shown the ability to fly, both in air and in space.
Also no, he does not need to be moving constantly to IMP. He did it against Professor Zoom while standing still, and when he did it to Zum he plainly stated he could do thousands of them, but only needed to do one. IMPs are just normal punches to Wally when he's going super fast -- they're white dwarf stars to everyone else.
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