Back in the 1950's and before, it was perfectly ok for people of both genders to watch a show starring a girl. Just look at the way those series were written and advertised. The Wizard of Oz is a good example. Both the original book series as well as the movie adaption was advertised and marketed to everyone. However, now, the movie is marketed solely to women, just because Dorothy is a girl. The same thing happened to Wonder Woman. Originally, Wonder Woman was marketed more towards boys than girls (Hence the short dress and low neckline.) Now, Wonder Woman is marketed exclusively to women. And this also happened to the Powerpuff Girls. The show was originally intended for both genders, but as time went on it became marketed more and more to just girls.
Why can't guys watch a show starring a girl?
@i_am_lightning: same thing I'm thinking
it probably has a lot to do with marketing as a whole. im sure that the recent outburst of faux-feminism or feminazis make some men shy away from these potential women-power shows, books, or movies. Plus in all fairness to what you are saying, what abut Hunger Games wrecking the box office despite being lead by a woman? Maybe so many impartial people have witnessed so many Alias, Sex in the City, Cougar Town crap before they just lose faith in the product from the get-go. The formula is all wrong. But again, this is speculation. Just suggestions....
30 Rock and Parks and Rec
There both over and started years ago.
It's marketed as a female empowerment thing ala Maleficent.
@dextersinister: Wat. Who cares if they're over. They're still current.
@dextersinister: Wat. Who cares if they're over. They're still current.
When talking about what's been marketed in the last couple of years no they are not.
@dextersinister: Wat. Who cares if they're over. They're still current.
When talking about what's been marketed in the last couple of years no they are not.
Parks and Rec ended a few months ago, and 30 Rock ended 2 years ago. I'd say that falls in the last couple of years.
It's marketed as a female empowerment thing ala Maleficent.
That reminds me, Disney is another excellent example. Disney's films used to be marketed towards both genders equally. But as time progressed, the marketing started focusing more and more on the princesses. Now, Disney is trying to back pedal, once they've realized that boys don't like them anymore.
@dextersinister: Wat. Who cares if they're over. They're still current.
When talking about what's been marketed in the last couple of years no they are not.
Parks and Rec ended a few months ago, and 30 Rock ended 2 years ago. I'd say that falls in the last couple of years.
started years ago.
@dextersinister: Wat. Who cares if they're over. They're still current.
When talking about what's been marketed in the last couple of years no they are not.
Parks and Rec ended a few months ago, and 30 Rock ended 2 years ago. I'd say that falls in the last couple of years.
started years ago.
I have no idea what your point is.
@eyedcyou: You do the most or any marketing when a show starts.
@eyedcyou: You do the most or any marketing when a show starts.
Still have no idea what your point is.
So are you saying that in today's society, boys are too "man" enough and that it would be shameful for them to watch a show with a chick in it and that this shouldn't be the case? Or are you saying that female characters nowadays are marketed and targeted exclusively to girls/women and that this shouldn't be the case? Or both?
I have and currently watch shows starring lead chicks.
So are you saying that in today's society, boys are too "man" enough and that it would be shameful for them to watch a show with a chick in it and that this shouldn't be the case? Or are you saying that female characters nowadays are marketed and targeted exclusively to girls/women and that this shouldn't be the case? Or both?
I have and currently watch shows starring lead chicks.
Same here, shout outs to kill la kill.
@superadam: I don't believe what you are saying is necessarily true. There are plenty of shows with a female lead that had massive male followings. Alias and Buffy come to mind. Star Trek: Voyager was led by a female captain and its most popular character was female. Gilmore Girls even had a strong male viewership. I think it depends on the kind of show more than the gender of the lead actor.
@eyedcyou: you mean recent. Current means happening right now.
@thespoiler: This is news to me as well.
So are you saying that in today's society, boys are too "man" enough and that it would be shameful for them to watch a show with a chick in it and that this shouldn't be the case? Or are you saying that female characters nowadays are marketed and targeted exclusively to girls/women and that this shouldn't be the case? Or both?
I have and currently watch shows starring lead chicks.
Both.
Yeah, guys do watch shows with female leads, but that's a minority of the cases. In most cases, shows with male leads are for both genders, while shows with female leads are for exclusively women. And I'm not talking about all shows with female stars. Star Trek Voyager had a female captain, but there were plenty of male main characters, too. But when the majority of the plot centers around women, then its marketed towards women. While if the majority of the plot centers around men (or both men and women) then its usually marketed towards everyone.
Shows with a male target demographic often throw in a token female character to appeal to women. While the reverse is usually not true. There is no male Bratz or Barbie star (Excluding their love interests, which aren't really in a starring role in the series).
DC Super Hero Girls is a perfect example. How do you get women into superheroes? By getting rid of all those male superheroes! They think girls will instantly be more attracted to superheroes because its starring nothing but women. They are also excluding men from the target audience, because the cast is nothing but women. Meanwhile, Young Justice was specifically targeting men, and a large portion of its cast were token women, added to appease the women watching the show. But when this worked, and a majority of the viewers were women, the show was cancelled because it failed with its target demographic of men.
In short, shows with a male target demographic are marketed towards both genders, even if the producers don't want women watching. But shows with a female lead are marketed towards only women.
I've seen it described in relationship to gamergate as women invading masculine, male-dominated spaces and demanding that it be more women-friendly, to the dismay of mostly men, but also some women, who enjoyed the masculine version that already existed. But the inverse is not true. Men aren't allowed to enter female dominated spaces and demand that it be more guy friendly. And you can see this happening in comics, where SJW's demand women be portrayed a certain way and demonize anyone who disagrees. You can see it in gaming, where women complain about the violence and competition in videogames, that guys (and some girls) love. And you can see it in the token female characters that always show up in series with a male demographic, but the inverse of a token male in a female demographic series is virtually unheard of. Because men watching a female series is unheard of. But, really, the only area I can think of with a women target demographic that guys "invaded" is My Little Pony. And that's a very recent development, and Bronies have received heck for watching the show (Honestly, though, the show doesn't look THAT amazing, like everyone says. But this is coming from someone who hasn't actually watched the show.)
But the result is that shows that used to be for everyone, are now for exclusively women. While shows that are exclusively for men, no longer really exist.
[End long, confusing rant]
It depends more if it use target marketing than the lead character. For example, Steven Seagal and Fast and Furious films are mainly marketed towards males, while Pitch Perfect and Frozen are marketed towards females. Yet Hunger games and Aliens was marketed and with both genders while having a female lead.
i mean you can still watch the show. seeing as there is so little female centric media anyway why shouldnt these shows be marketed towards women/girls? its not like you have to pass a gender quiz before every episode so quit being a baby and just watch it.
It's probably just that there's a real dearth of female comic book characters unfortunately. There are tons of shows marketed to females, but they normally don't involve superheroes.
@superadam: isnt every female supehero, except a few marketed twards guy?
i dont think women like seeing their own gender in bikinis fighting crime...
just as it would be weird ( gay) of me to see spider-man in a thong fighting crime
the only comic i like that due to it being reasonable is spider gwen
Please Log In to post.
Log in to comment