1st Vote. Omega Red 100%.
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As far as Wolverine villains go, I voted for Sabretooth. I like that he's Wolverine's stronger, larger, faster opposite. It made their early battles more epic, and made Wolverine's wins feel like real accomplishments. Unfortunately, the past couple of Loeb runs on Wolverine featuring his battles with Sabretooth have taken the shine off the villain for me. I think I'd like to see Sabretooth fight other characters before fighting Wolverine again.
If I had a second vote, I'd vote for Cyber. When he was first introduced, he was a legitimate threat. Wolverine has claws, but with the exception of Cyber's mouth area, his adamantium coated skin made him invulnerable to claw attacks.
As a general character, I prefer Deadpool.
Sabretooth will always be his arch villain. I mean, the guy found him every year on his bday and used to kick the crap out of him.
Nah, it's from a 1997 comic (Maverick One-shot). Basically, the military executes Arkady, but he survives due to his healing factor. Upon finding that out, they realize he's a good pick for their experiment and that's how Omega Red is born.@k4tzm4n: Well that's what I get for not reading an X-Men related book since the 90's
@k4tzm4n said:
@jloneblackheart said:lol. Or, "Which villain really isn't all that evil?"@k4tzm4n: Good thing the question wasn't "Which character has your favorite origin?"
Deadpool would win that question without a doubt.
Definitely. He's by no means a "villain" anymore (in fact, most of his career has been spent as an anti-hero) but I knew people would want to see him on the list.@k4tzm4n said:
@jloneblackheart said:lol. Or, "Which villain really isn't all that evil?"@k4tzm4n: Good thing the question wasn't "Which character has your favorite origin?"
Deadpool would win that question without a doubt.
@jloneblackheart said:
1st Vote. Omega Red 100%.
/thread ;P
This.
@jloneblackheart said:
@k4tzm4n: Well that's what I get for not reading an X-Men related book since the 90's
Read Morrison's, then Whedon's and Carey's run on X-Men. Then quit and never look back. And you will be complete.
My top 3
Omega Red - Gorgon (ok so a one time thing but a truly awesome villain) and then Cyber
All three truly out-match him. They really seem in a different category all together. That's the thing that defines Wolverine, his best bouts are against guys he shouldn't have a chance against.
Everyone else has gotten stagnant or I don't really consider a nemesis of his. (cool seeing roughhouse on this list though!)
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@jloneblackheart said:
1st Vote. Omega Red 100%.
/thread ;P
This.
@jloneblackheart said:
@k4tzm4n: Well that's what I get for not reading an X-Men related book since the 90's
Read Morrison's, then Whedon's and Carey's run on X-Men. Then quit and never look back. And you will be complete.
Am I the only one who liked the Yost / Kyle years?
@JediXMan said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@jloneblackheart said:
1st Vote. Omega Red 100%.
/thread ;P
This.
@jloneblackheart said:
@k4tzm4n: Well that's what I get for not reading an X-Men related book since the 90's
Read Morrison's, then Whedon's and Carey's run on X-Men. Then quit and never look back. And you will be complete.
Am I the only one who liked the Yost / Kyle years?
Nope, most people think that era of X-Force was amazing. Even I quite like it, but it does mean reading stuff like Necrosha and Second Coming. The runs I listed are all self-contained.
@CitizenBane said:
Voted for Gorgon out of personal preference; but if I had to pick a villain based on their influence on Logan's mythos, a properly written Sabretooth would top the list.
I will co-sign any motion to have k4tz tarred and feathered for including Romulus :P
Including Romulus is wack, but to make it fair you should balance the scales with an equally unimportant character in the Wolverine mythos, You must include the black cop lady that tries to ticket him for his bike way back in issue 50. They are both equally as relevant to the character imo.
LOL.Voted for Gorgon out of personal preference; but if I had to pick a villain based on their influence on Logan's mythos, a properly written Sabretooth would top the list.
I will co-sign any motion to have k4tz tarred and feathered for including Romulus :P
Magneto is the one villain Wolverine can't handle. Logan's suppose to be the best at what he does but he can't do shit to Eric. He's always forced to fight Magneto on a moral or philosophical level which is not his forte at all. Magnus obviously carries no resentment towards a fellow mutant but Wolvie just can't see eye to eye with him in regards to the future of mutants. Charles Xavier was one of the few men Wolverine honored and whoever opposes Professor X's philosphy is his enemy.
@Mezmero said:
Magneto is the one villain Wolverine can't handle. Logan's suppose to be the best at what he does but he can't do shit to Eric. He's always forced to fight Magneto on a moral or philosophical level which is not his forte at all. Magnus obviously carries no resentment towards a fellow mutant but Wolvie just can't see eye to eye with him in regards to the future of mutants. Charles Xavier was one of the few men Wolverine honored and whoever opposes Professor X's philosphy is his enemy.
Thus making him an enormous hypocrite.
You need to revise the Sabretooth choice.
You need to add;
A) CLASSIC "BANG Baby Doll you dead" Sabretooth as a choice, then;
B) JOBBER "Raar" SNIKT "bleh" Sabretooth (who I like to pretend are all clones of the real deal which is where Claremont was heading) as another.
A distinction need be made here ... as they are two EXTREMELY different characters dammit!!!
Call me old school, but I think Silver Samurai is Wolverine's greatest villain. He is a threat not just because of his mutant power, but also because he outmaneuvered Logan in tradition to win the marriage of Mariko. He is a man of little honor, lots of cunning, and a fair amount of melee skill. One of the most significant defeats Wolverine ever suffered was from Silver Samurai.
@Overlander: Very happy to see Harada receive some love.
@Super_SoldierXII said:
You need to revise the Sabretooth choice.
You need to add;
A) CLASSIC "BANG Baby Doll you dead" Sabretooth as a choice, then;
B) JOBBER "Raar" SNIKT "bleh" Sabretooth (who I like to pretend are all clones of the real deal which is where Claremont was heading) as another.
A distinction need be made here ... as they are two EXTREMELY different characters dammit!!!
B... because other characters need votes, too.
I voted Omega Red because I have fond memories of him from the 90s X-men TAS. But i almost went sabertooth, well because he is his arch villain.
@k4tzm4n said:
@Overlander: Very happy to see Harada receive some love.
@Super_SoldierXII said:
You need to revise the Sabretooth choice.
You need to add;
A) CLASSIC "BANG Baby Doll you dead" Sabretooth as a choice, then;
B) JOBBER "Raar" SNIKT "bleh" Sabretooth (who I like to pretend are all clones of the real deal which is where Claremont was heading) as another.
A distinction need be made here ... as they are two EXTREMELY different characters dammit!!!
B... because other characters need votes, too.
Lol.
Indeed.
I voted Sabretooth. He's just a great character. Omega Red is a very close second. Then Lady Deathstrike and Silver Samurai.
I'm torn between Silver Samurai and Ogun. I have a deep love for anything that has do to with Samurai characters.
It's Sabertooth for any long-time Wolverine fans. Although I can't express how happy it made me to see the name ROUGHHOUSE. He was the villain in some of the first Wolverine stories I can remember reading in the late 80s. That was the first name that popped in my head. He was as rough as a house would be, I guess. Is there a Roughhouse message board? And now that I'm randomly ranting, why isn't he a part of thr Wolverone and the X-Men title? I would make him the gym teacher, alongside Doop, of course.
@madtitan2112 said:
@k4tzm4n:
i just read the death of Omega Red in Wolverine Origins #39 and saw no kids.
Nah, it's from a 1997 comic (Maverick One-shot). Basically, the military executes Arkady, but he survives due to his healing factor. Upon finding that out, they realize he's a good pick for their experiment and that's how Omega Red is born.
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