who's the most overrated writer?

  in my opinion, it's grant morrison. ok let me clear something up, i dont think hes a BAD writer at all. i actually like his stuff. but people treat him like hes the comic book writer god and buy everything he writes  no matter what. idk, hes cool, but hes no where near that type of status for me. 

This should be in the Alan Moore section since this is really about him

warren ellis? the stuff he does is great, but some of it seems a bit rushed (Red, Thunderbolt's "Caged Angels" are what comes to mind)

 
Mark Millar. Dude gets a movie deal and he isn't even done writing the comic yet....  
 
I also dislike him for the "Marvel Knights Spider-man" disaster.....

Geoff Johns.

Gail Simone, and Geoff Johns
 
everyone else noted some of my favorite writers as being overrated, why is this? I can defend each of them as much as possible but I admit to everyone having a bad story.

" Gail Simone,

" @geraldthesloth said:

" Gail Simone,

Grrrrr "

Geoff Johns by a mile.

w/e BN is fraggin awesome ya'll just haters on the classic boys

"ya'll just haters on the classic boys "

" This should be in the Alan Moore section since this is really about him "

" @Korg: As in characters Geoff haters are pissed Hal and Barry are getting the spot light "

" @Korg: As in characters Geoff haters are pissed Hal and Barry are getting the spot light "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

" @Korg: As in characters Geoff haters are pissed Hal and Barry are getting the spot light "

 I don't care that Hal is getting the spotlight. Hell, I started reading GL with Rebirth, and I don't even read Flash. I just find his stuff (especially BN) to be slow-paced and incredibly predictable. "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

" @Korg: As in characters Geoff haters are pissed Hal and Barry are getting the spot light "

Geoff haters don't like the fact he solves every prob he comes by with a recon or a cop out. "

 Chris Claremont. Not so much by the comic buying community but by Marvel. They let him have the X-Men for too long just because he did some good stuff 20 years ago.

I actually don't hear a lot about Grant Morrison. Right now I'd have to say Brian Bendis, I don't hate his writing, I like it a lot, I just think that he shouldn't do some many books, he's got: Ultimate Spider-Man and Enemy, New and Dark Avengers, and Siege, I feel that with so much he's wrtiting, it going to take away from some of the other books. 
 
Point - Avengers/Siege > Ultimate U

" Mark Millar
  Wanted and Red Son were excellent IMO, but everything else that I've read has been rather boring. Old Man Logan had a boring/cliche' ending along with a predictable plot and I dropped his latest Ult. Avengers after 3 issue. But the one book that I don't understand everyone liking is Kick Ass. I think I understand why writers normally don't ground Superheroes in complete realism, it's because it makes the story extremely boring. I also don't get why it's taking so long for this book to ship each month, the art is okay and the story is mediocre, so what's going on, is the movie the reason for delays? That and Millar is a total whore, the Kick Ass movie is coming out in a couple months but the comic is just finishing this month, Chosen is no where near completion but a movie is already in the works, a Nemesis movie is being talked about but the first issue is no where near coming out, and I'm not even going to talk about Wanted. 
 
Bendis
 His work in Marvel actually made me a primary DC reader.
 
 Rucka I loved the Omac project and Checkmate, but Action Comics and Detective Comics have been crap. "

Oh, my bad.

" Oh, my bad. "

why do people hate on Geoff Johns for retconing some stuff? he really hasn't retconed anything, just built upon what was already there.  At no point has he said that something never happened.

 Brian Michael Bendis 

" why do people hate on Geoff Johns for retconing some stuff? he really hasn't retconed anything, just built upon what was already there.  At no point has he said that something never happened. "

" @burr787 said:

" Mark Millar
  Wanted and Red Son were excellent IMO, but everything else that I've read has been rather boring. Old Man Logan had a boring/cliche' ending along with a predictable plot and I dropped his latest Ult. Avengers after 3 issue. But the one book that I don't understand everyone liking is Kick Ass. I think I understand why writers normally don't ground Superheroes in complete realism, it's because it makes the story extremely boring. I also don't get why it's taking so long for this book to ship each month, the art is okay and the story is mediocre, so what's going on, is the movie the reason for delays? That and Millar is a total whore, the Kick Ass movie is coming out in a couple months but the comic is just finishing this month, Chosen is no where near completion but a movie is already in the works, a Nemesis movie is being talked about but the first issue is no where near coming out, and I'm not even going to talk about Wanted. 
 
Bendis
 His work in Marvel actually made me a primary DC reader.
 
 Rucka I loved the Omac project and Checkmate, but Action Comics and Detective Comics have been crap. "

I agree with Benids.Other two not so much.But i don't read much of Rucka's stuff...Actually only thing from his I've read from him was Gotham Central was a  work of genius.Millar is one of my favorites.Like almost everything he has done.And the reason alot of his stuff is shipping really late is because he has Chrones disease and had to lighten his workload and can't get stuff out as quickly,so don't blame him.And now to some one you didn't mention but everyone else id is Grant Morrison.Only thing i have to say is that he is my favorite writer at the moment and i love all his stuff!And i think that some-one that is very over-rated is Garth Ennis.I like a lot of his Punisher stuff...actually i like all of his Punisher stuff but things like the Boys and Herogasm are stupid IMO.I think they are asily written and i get they are supposed be fun but i find them rather stupid. "

"@War Killer: COMPLETELY agree about bendis. i think hes a great writer, but hes spread too thin and it shows in some of his titles"

" @Fire-Starter said:

" @burr787 said:

" Mark Millar
  Wanted and Red Son were excellent IMO, but everything else that I've read has been rather boring. Old Man Logan had a boring/cliche' ending along with a predictable plot and I dropped his latest Ult. Avengers after 3 issue. But the one book that I don't understand everyone liking is Kick Ass. I think I understand why writers normally don't ground Superheroes in complete realism, it's because it makes the story extremely boring. I also don't get why it's taking so long for this book to ship each month, the art is okay and the story is mediocre, so what's going on, is the movie the reason for delays? That and Millar is a total whore, the Kick Ass movie is coming out in a couple months but the comic is just finishing this month, Chosen is no where near completion but a movie is already in the works, a Nemesis movie is being talked about but the first issue is no where near coming out, and I'm not even going to talk about Wanted. 
 
Bendis
 His work in Marvel actually made me a primary DC reader.
 
 Rucka I loved the Omac project and Checkmate, but Action Comics and Detective Comics have been crap. "

I agree with Benids.Other two not so much.But i don't read much of Rucka's stuff...Actually only thing from his I've read from him was Gotham Central was a  work of genius.Millar is one of my favorites.Like almost everything he has done.And the reason alot of his stuff is shipping really late is because he has Chrones disease and had to lighten his workload and can't get stuff out as quickly,so don't blame him.And now to some one you didn't mention but everyone else id is Grant Morrison.Only thing i have to say is that he is my favorite writer at the moment and i love all his stuff!And i think that some-one that is very over-rated is Garth Ennis.I like a lot of his Punisher stuff...actually i like all of his Punisher stuff but things like the Boys and Herogasm are stupid IMO.I think they are asily written and i get they are supposed be fun but i find them rather stupid. "

WORD for comic book writers with digestive health issues! (that would be me.) it actually sucks a lot, but its cool to see someone out there making a lot of good comics and wrestling with simillar things as me. "

By the stuff they're doing in the past few years: Claremont and Frank Miller. 

" By the stuff they're doing in the past few years: Claremont and Frank Miller.  "

" @Fire-Starter: oh i already knew haha "

" why do people hate on Geoff Johns for retconing some stuff? he really hasn't retconed anything, just built upon what was already there.  At no point has he said that something never happened. "

" By the stuff they're doing in the past few years: Claremont and Frank Miller.  "

Grant Morrison by a mile!

" Grant Morrison by a mile! "

" why do people hate on Geoff Johns for retconing some stuff? he really hasn't retconed anything, just built upon what was already there.  At no point has he said that something never happened. "

" @danhimself said:

" why do people hate on Geoff Johns for retconing some stuff? he really hasn't retconed anything, just built upon what was already there.  At no point has he said that something never happened. "

I got into a discussion with a couple of friends with this tonight. My viewpoint: He improved the GLU vastly with his supposed "retcons."  If that book stayed the same, and nothing ever evolved, it would still be the same boring stories from the silver age, and I love those stories, but they just don't work today. "

• Alan Moore
• Warren Ellis 
• Bendis

" @inferiorego said:

" @danhimself said:

" why do people hate on Geoff Johns for retconing some stuff? he really hasn't retconed anything, just built upon what was already there.  At no point has he said that something never happened. "

I got into a discussion with a couple of friends with this tonight. My viewpoint: He improved the GLU vastly with his supposed "retcons."  If that book stayed the same, and nothing ever evolved, it would still be the same boring stories from the silver age, and I love those stories, but they just don't work today. "

I agree...I didn't start reading GL until Rebirth but I went back and read a lot of the older stuff to get caught up and it doesn't hold a candle to what Johns has done with book...he's pretty much the reason I'm reading DC at all....I started with his run on the Teen Titans and moved out from there...he improves upon every character he writes "

" Geoff Johns. "

" @ahumancartoon said:

" Grant Morrison by a mile! "

Nope. "

@Harlekin said:

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

" @Korg: As in characters Geoff haters are pissed Hal and Barry are getting the spot light "

Geoff haters don't like the fact he solves every prob he comes by with a recon or a cop out. "

That is te only way to solve most @#$% now a days "

you guys really think alan moore is overrated? i mean i know people think hes super amazing, but its hard for me to feel like hes overrated

" @danhimself said:

" @inferiorego said:

" @danhimself said:

" why do people hate on Geoff Johns for retconing some stuff? he really hasn't retconed anything, just built upon what was already there.  At no point has he said that something never happened. "

I got into a discussion with a couple of friends with this tonight. My viewpoint: He improved the GLU vastly with his supposed "retcons."  If that book stayed the same, and nothing ever evolved, it would still be the same boring stories from the silver age, and I love those stories, but they just don't work today. "

I agree...I didn't start reading GL until Rebirth but I went back and read a lot of the older stuff to get caught up and it doesn't hold a candle to what Johns has done with book...he's pretty much the reason I'm reading DC at all....I started with his run on the Teen Titans and moved out from there...he improves upon every character he writes "

I thought Teen Titans was pretty average.... he's definitely improved as a writer.  "

" grant frakin morrison that guy makes a mess of everything he does batman lost in time?? wasnt captain america lost in time? and didnt bucky become cap before dick grayson was batman?? this guy is way over rated!  all hail geaoff johns!!! all hail robert kirkman!! all hail ed brubaker! "

• Animal Man.
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• Arkham Asylum.
• Batman.
• Batman and Robin.
• All-Star Superman.
• Justice League / JLA:Earth 2.
• 52.
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• Vertigo Stuff - Invisibles included. 
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It was still the best Teen Titans has been since Marv Wolfman "