Which of these guys would you trust when it comes to time and space:
- Iron Man
- Reed Richards
- Iron Man, Reed Richards, and the Illuminati
- The doctor
And why would you trust him or them ?
Which of these guys would you trust when it comes to time and space:
- Iron Man
- Reed Richards
- Iron Man, Reed Richards, and the Illuminati
- The doctor
And why would you trust him or them ?
Too bad Barry Allen isn't there
Still, he isn't as good as the doctor
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Pft just means Reed would do what it takes
@mister_x_1: I know, it's just that I think we would have had a bit more fun with the situation, he's mucked up the timeline so much but I still feel like I could pave over that and we'd hang out in the speed force talking physics and stuff
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Pft just means Reed would do what it takes
Without knowing the consciousnesses of his actions ?
The doctor thinks and thinks of the consciousnesses before doing anything.
@mister_x_1: Well you know how it's with the doctor at times... Even his thoughts have thoughts.
@mister_x_1: Well you know how it's with the doctor at times... Even his thoughts have thoughts.
Still, better him then Stark, Richard, or the Illuminati
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Pft just means Reed would do what it takes
The Doctor genocided two of the most powerful races in the Whoniverse and is feared throughout time and space.
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Pft just means Reed would do what it takes
The Doctor genocided two of the most powerful races in the Whoniverse and is feared throughout time and space.
If Rogers didn't stop the Illuminati, then they would have committed a bigger genocide.
The doctor committed one genocide to stop a war that was big for time itself, and he then felt a huge amount
of guilt. Stark and Richards were smiling about their idea when they come up with it
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Pft just means Reed would do what it takes
Without knowing the consciousnesses of his actions ?
The doctor thinks and thinks of the consciousnesses before doing anything.
Reed knew exactly what the consequences were
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Pft just means Reed would do what it takes
Without knowing the consciousnesses of his actions ?
The doctor thinks and thinks of the consciousnesses before doing anything.
Redd knew exactly what the consequences were
And he still was planing to go ahead with it.
The doctor would have thought about these consequences and try to avoid them.
@mister_x_1: I'm not saying the Doctor is a bigger psychopath, I'm just saying he's got the stones to do what needs to be done for time and space ;)
He didn't really feel guilt about it until after meeting Rose tbh and he's shown doesn't regret killing his own race in 'The End of Time' (Even the Master thought the Time Lords had gotten way too corrupt as well).
@mister_x_1: I'm not saying the Doctor is a bigger psychopath, I'm just saying he's got the stones to do what needs to be done for time and space.
He didn't really feel guilt about it until after meeting Rose tbh and he's shown doesn't regret killing his own race in 'The End of Time' (Even the Master thought they'd gotten way too corrupt as well).
In "The End of Time" he said that the something happened to the time lords, somthing that made them more
ruthless, that's why he said he doesn't regret it.
And while I agree with you that the doctor has what it takes to do what ever it is to save time and space,
genocide might be his last solution.
In Stark and Richards' case, genocide was their first choice that they could come up with, and they didn't even
bothered to come up with another solution.
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Pft just means Reed would do what it takes
Without knowing the consciousnesses of his actions ?
The doctor thinks and thinks of the consciousnesses before doing anything.
Redd knew exactly what the consequences were
And he still was planing to go ahead with it.
The doctor would have thought about these consequences and try to avoid them.
Damn right he was. Sometimes there isn't any wishy washy storybook deus ex machina endings. Reed tried everything he could including sacrificing his own son and nothing worked, the only way was to kill thousands to save untold billions and billions.
Why even ask if you are just going to bitch about the answer?
Reed
Ok....a man who planed with another man to destroy multiple universes in order to save one is better
then a 900 plus year time lord who can save one universe without destroying anything.
Sorry, man. I ll trust a time lord rather then Richards.
Pft just means Reed would do what it takes
Without knowing the consciousnesses of his actions ?
The doctor thinks and thinks of the consciousnesses before doing anything.
Redd knew exactly what the consequences were
And he still was planing to go ahead with it.
The doctor would have thought about these consequences and try to avoid them.
Damn right he was. Sometimes there isn't any wishy washy storybook deus ex machina endings. Reed tried everything he could including sacrificing his own son and nothing worked, the only way was to kill thousands to save untold billions and billions.
Why even ask if you are just going to bitch about the answer?
There is no need to get upset man, cool down :)
We are having a debate here, and all we are saying to each other are opinion based on what we think is right.
Now, just like you have your reason for Richards, I will give you my reasons for the doctor:
Yes, sometimes there are no wishy washy storybook deus ex machina endings, there are choices.
while Richards did Scarface his son, he didn't think of anything else except genocide, they could have asked
Beyonder and Molecule Man for help, they could have created a research team of Richards, Stark, Doom, etc and
combine their minds to come up with a solution better then that.
And the way I remember it, Richards and the Illuminati wanted to destroy the other worlds to save one, so they
will actually kill trillions and trillions to save billions, and Rogers knows this, and That's why he used the gems.
No the doctor might accept genocide, i'm not saying he's perfect, but it will be his last choice.
Think when the time lords returned, he could have simply blown up the earth, but he didn't
Think when the dalek's and the cybermen tried to rule earth many times, he didn't think about genocide, he thought
about it and found a way to save the world with less deaths.
The doctor. No questions there.
"He never raised his voice. That was the worst thing... the fury of the Time Lord... and then we discovered why. Why this Doctor, who had fought with gods and demons, why he had run away from us and hidden. He was being kind... "
@mister_x_1: no, you seem to be confused. Reed DID form a research team which Doom refused to join. They tried many many things like using the infinity gauntlet but they didn't work. By blowing up one planet they save two universes. Didn't you read the comic?
@mister_x_1: no, you seem to be confused. Reed DID form a research team which Doom refused to join. They tried many many things like using the infinity gauntlet but they didn't work. By blowing up one planet they save two universes. Didn't you read the comic?
This is the comic book I read:
Now the way I remember it, If memory serves me right, Stark, Richards, and the Illuminati thought of a plan
in which to save their universe, they have to destroy the other universes. Rogers refused their dissection, and
insisted that there is another way, but the Illuminati disagrees and wipes out Rogers memory, some time later
Rogers remembers everything and uses the gems.
Is that the comic book that we are talking about ?
@mister_x_1: no, you seem to be confused. Reed DID form a research team which Doom refused to join. They tried many many things like using the infinity gauntlet but they didn't work. By blowing up one planet they save two universes. Didn't you read the comic?
This is the comic book I read:
Now the way I remember it, If memory serves me right, Stark, Richards, and the Illuminati thought of a plan
in which to save their universe, they have to destroy the other universes. Rogers refused their dissection, and
insisted that there is another way, but the Illuminati disagrees and wipes out Rogers memory, some time later
Rogers remembers everything and uses the gems.
Is that the comic book that we are talking about ?
I'm talking about the whole series not just one issue. And no you are wrong, to save BOTH universes they would need to destroy one planet.
@mister_x_1: no, you seem to be confused. Reed DID form a research team which Doom refused to join. They tried many many things like using the infinity gauntlet but they didn't work. By blowing up one planet they save two universes. Didn't you read the comic?
This is the comic book I read:
Now the way I remember it, If memory serves me right, Stark, Richards, and the Illuminati thought of a plan
in which to save their universe, they have to destroy the other universes. Rogers refused their dissection, and
insisted that there is another way, but the Illuminati disagrees and wipes out Rogers memory, some time later
Rogers remembers everything and uses the gems.
Is that the comic book that we are talking about ?
I'm talking about the whole series not just one issue. And no you are wrong, to save BOTH universes they would need to destroy one planet.
Are you sure about that ?
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