You can go wherever you want with this, considering the fact that Marvel made Yellowjacket a villain and completely changed Aldrich Killian.
Not Shazam!
@theantirevamp: I think OP's talking about Marvel's Captain Marvel.
@supremegreen_dx: @theantirevamp: Marvel's Cap not Shazam
The people who force her standing as a top character : P
huh?
@life_without_progress: Her villains should be the people that force her standing as a top awesome amazing female character. They are mine : P
@life_without_progress: It's not calculus ^-^
@life_without_progress: *throws snow at*
You should clarify that you are talking about Carol, or the DC fans will get confused. For Her movie I would use M.O.D.O.K and AIM or the Kree
Or you know DC fans could read the OP instead of you know... being morons.
They will probably use a Kree as a villain, and I would like that, a powerful alien against a badass hot girl.
It should tie in to the events happening in infinity war since it is released in between those films release dates. Although it shouldn't be necessary to the plot of the avengers movies and the filmmakers of captain marvel won't know everything about what's going on in infinity war when writing the script.
You should clarify that you are talking about Carol, or the DC fans will get confused. For Her movie I would use M.O.D.O.K and AIM or the Kree
Or you know DC fans could read the OP instead of you know... being morons.
I agree. The only 'Captian Marvel' Film that is coming out is by Marvel.And any fan should know that.
@kcomicfan: Not only that the OP points out Marvel and two of their villains, it's obvious he was referring to Carol not Billy.
They will probably use a Kree as a villain, and I would like that, a powerful alien against a badass hot girl.
You should clarify that you are talking about Carol, or the DC fans will get confused. For Her movie I would use M.O.D.O.K and AIM or the Kree
Or you know DC fans could read the OP instead of you know... being morons.
I agree. The only 'Captian Marvel' Film that is coming out is by Marvel.And any fan should know that.
Dc fans and marve fans. I feel privileged to like both universes
@kfabz-23: Yellowjacket being a villain really isn't that much of a jump tbh. To answer your question, it depends on how she's introduced.
@avenging_x_bolt: a superhero appearing as a villain is a jump in my opinion.
Depends on what they want to focus her story on.
If they are focusing on the political side of the event, perhaps Doomsday Man or perhaps Ghazi Rashid though the latter might be little too unknown.
If they want to go cosmic perhaps Cru?
Moonstone might not be the best option because where do you go from there? They should leave her for second instalment.
I would have said Ronan, as he has a history with her and he would've been an awesome foil for her but Marvel had the brilliant idea to waste him on GotG movie and kill him to boot. Moonstone would be a safe choice I suppose. Maybe they could use one of the Avenger's villlains for her. *shrug*
@kfabz-23: They didn't turn a hero into a villain. Yellowjacket is a persona not a person, a persona that just so happens to have just as long a history with villainy as it does with heroism.
Originally Yellowjacket was a villainous persona of Hank Pym. Hank eventually regained his sanity and served as a hero but eventually regressed into villainous actions again before abandoning the identity entirely
A list of villainous actions Hank committed as Yellowjacket included
1.Assaulting the Avengers
2.kidnapping the wasp and trying to force her to marry him
3. Selling out the Avengers and humanity during the Destiny Wars
4.creating Salvation 1 to attack the Avengers in an insane attempt to retain membership
5. Joining Eggheads Masters Of Evil (to be fair, he was manipulated )
Not to mention his successors were villains as well for the majority of their careers
Rita Demara was a member of The Master s Of Evil and aided I. The Siege of Avengers mansion
Noll was a skull sleeper agent who replaced Hank after Avengers disassembled , helped create an evil clone of Thor, impregnated Tigra, was a major player in the Skrull Invasion, built devices that would have sunk the earth into the negative zone, and helped implant a gene bomb in the Wasp.
So no. Not really a jump.
@claymore1998: Nothing wrong with using unknowns or lesser knowns.
@avenging_x_bolt: the MCU YellowJacket history is not detailed to that extent because Hank Pym had nothing to do with it's creation nor did he ever put it on. Like you said he done villainous things but he was also a hero the MCU Yellowjacket was just pure evil. It was something completely different Yellowjacket was never an Ant-Man villain so in my opinion it was a jump.
I suppose Moonstone is the best choice...a crazy smart, manipulating villainess, makes me think that the MCU in general needs some female baddies. Nebula was onscreen for like 2 minutes...
@kfabz-23:
1. What does it matter how detailed the MCU's history is? Things can't happen exactly the same way they did in the comics. We've seen plenty of bigger jumps
2.Just because Hank didn't create it himself doesn't mean he had nothing to do with it. The suit was based off of Hank's tech and legacy. Cross' erratic behavior as Yellowjacket was the result of his faulty formula which is reminiscent of how Hank first developed the Yellowjacket persona in the comics. They're connected just not in the same way as the comic version
3. Yellowjacket technically was Ant-Man villain, or at least a Hank Pym villain for a while. There was a period of time where Hank was split into two beings one of the se beings used his Yellowjacket identity and frequently antagonized the other until the two realized that they couldn't survive without each other and before that the modern day Hank Pym met the early Yellowjacket Hank Pym during the the Destiny Wars (there was a lot of time travel involved) and they were constantly messing with each other until Yellowjacket eventually messed him and the other Avengers over. The Rita Demara version also battled Scott Lang and Wasp during the siege of Avengers mansion whereas the Ultimate Universe Yellowjacket (Ultron in disguise) battled the Ultimates and Hank (who was Ant-Man at the time). Darren Cross also happened to be the villain in Scott's origin story in the comics.
5.it may be a jump but not nearly as big as you're making it out. You're nitpicking.
@avenging_x_bolt: dude I said in my opinion whether you agree or not I don't care your not even answering the question. I didn't create this thread to discuss YellowJacket and Ant-Man, if that's what you want to do create your own thread on that.
@kfabz-23:
1. I understand what you said. That doesn't mean that I don't have the right to voice my disagreement of said opinion and present my reasoning for it. If you didn't want me to continue then you should have said something earlier.
2.I answered your question the first time I replied to you. The villain i would pick depends entirely on how she's introduced.
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