Who's Smarter? Dr. Doom or Darkseid

Who has the better intellect and feats? I would say Doom. What do you think?

Dr Doom is smarter. Just ask him. He'll tell ya!

Doom's feats include a working/reliable time machine, a powersuit that enables him to go toe to toe with nearly anyone, he used his brains to steal power from Beyonder, etc.

The one who hasn't been defeated by stairs.

Dr. Doom

Darkseid...

The one who hasn't been defeated by squirrel girl.

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@antimutant001: Squirrel Girl main power is defeating anyone stronger than her.

Darkseid rules a planet so obvs him

Dr. Doom

A planet devoid of superheros that would challenge his rule.... Doom has taken over Marvel Earth after putting every superhero under his control and literally gave up his rule because he got bored.

Doctor Doom

darkseid

doom wins due to popularity

Doom

Victor

You do know he took that planet over right?

Yuga Khan, his Mother Heggra and Steppenwolf all held control over the planet, and Darkseid didn't even have the Omega Effect yet. He already took it over. When introduced to the Fourth World, We're past the phase where he took control and subjected the planet to his whim. It's not like he was born into being overlord of all.

Still Doom.

This time machine has a contraption called "Doomlock", which enables anything changed in the past to affect the same timeline in the future, which is pretty impressive. And with enough cunning he tricked Beyonder into letting his guard down, and got his powers away from him.

Dr. Doom

Darkseid SHOULD be smarter, but a very strong argument can be made for the good Doctor based off his feats.

@shazam117: I made a thread about "should" arguments. It compares two different philosophies in "who would win" discussions: feats vs. essence. The question is, should a character's essential attributes weigh heavily in our interpretations of characters' strength, or is it only a matter of what artists have put to the page?

Good question. My knee-jerk answer to that is to go by actual feats performed by these characters or "what artist have put to the page" along with writers. That said you take a character like Darkseid, whom is thousands of years older than Doom with better tech, his own planet, and just is on a completely different (higher) power scale...I can see how one can come to the conclusion he may be or should smarter than Doom going by his stats/attributes. I know of at least two occasions Doom obtain complete omnipotence thru his planning, but I don't know if the same can be said of Darkseid.

Bump

Doom.

Darkseid in theory, doom by way better feats

It's always Doom, even if it isn't.

None lay hands on Doom

Doom.

doom is the darkseid

Doom

dooms sole purpose is being smarter than everyone else

Doom

Darkseid

Darkseid.

DOOOOOOOOM

Doom.

Dr. Doom. Darkseid goes full retard sometimes. lol

In a comic vine battle sense Doom is more reliable as he is a lower tier character who exists on Earth and has a lot more interactions with many other characters therefore more feats to pull from if you need to build a ray gun.

In a universal wisdom, who knows the most about the cosmos and all that sort of nonsense than DS, he is one of the smartest new gods which is the best tech in the multiverse, a scientist who debates with Metron the god of time and knowledge, theorized the anti-life equation and exists in multiple forms in many universes.

DOOM stomp!

Doom is smarter/more intelligent

Darkseid is wiser.

Darkseid is! Ben Grimm can and has kicked Doom's ass. Doom isn't even smart enough to get plastic surgery. He's an idiot.

DOOM

Doom.

I think doom is smarter but darkseid has more base power..

Darkseid

Doom.

Doom says, "Doom wins."

Doom.

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