Who is the most tragic hero in comic books ???

This should be in general discussion.

Also, my money would be on the Crow.

 
Silver Surfer by far

Is this a contest of who has had the most bad stuff happen to them, or of who has been most effected by it? Silver Surfer is pretty emotionless most of the time.

John Constantine.

Wolverine and Cyclops are definitely the most tragic Marvel heroes IMO, but, in terms of comics in general, I'd go with Hank Henshaw.

"Is this a contest of who has had the most bad stuff happen to them, or of who has been most effected by it? Silver Surfer is pretty emotionless most of the time. "

i voted spidey.=p

"i voted spidey.=p "

I wonder how many people here know the traditional definition of a tragic hero?

"I wonder how many people here know the traditional definition of a tragic hero? "

"I wonder how many people here know the traditional definition of a tragic hero? "

" @spidey 15 said:

"i voted spidey.=p "

He hasn't faced the adversity that several other heroes have. "

" @Ferro Vida said:

"I wonder how many people here know the traditional definition of a tragic hero? "

I'm sure virtually everyone who posted has at least read Romeo & Juliet once. "

" @progenitor: You can't really be angst-ridden when you're dead. "

"I'd go with Hank Henshaw."

" @progenitor: You can't really be angst-ridden when you're dead. " 
 
When it comes to Jean Grey.....you may never know.

" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:

"I'd go with Hank Henshaw."

Tragic hero or tragic villain though? "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:

"I'd go with Hank Henshaw."

Tragic hero or tragic villain though? "

As the most tragic character in general "

  @Ferro Vida said:

" @cattlebattle: By Aristotle's definition a tragic hero is a character who has started out with a certain degree of nobility (so that they have something to lose), but still has some sort of humanizing flaw that prevents them from being perfect. This character makes some sort of mistake that leads to their own downfall. There are other aspects to this particular idea as well, like their fall is caused solely by their own actions with no outside influence. MacBeth is an excellent example from slightly less contemporary literature. "

Magneto because he was in a death camp and his wife and kids left him.

Daredevil has made a lot of sacrifices lately

I would say Batmans is the most dramatic up there only because he is dealing with a child hood memory of his family getting killed but sense he got closure to that in comics i would say its not him now....it would fall to the Hulk/Bruce Banner....to have a monster inside you that destroys all it sees is a pretty crazy concept to take in...but even still Banner is a adult Batman was a kid when his father+ mother died.
 
But my over all vote goes to niether above....to me it goes to Crispus Allen the new Spectre because not only can he not die...but he must kill as the Spectre over and over again. He must deal with all the wicked and evil in the world to judge them....and not judge others of equal wickness and not only that he  had to kill his own son....because it was Gods will. He saw his son kill the man that killed him before he became the Spectre and then had to slay his own son. Spectre made him do it....and has to continue to work with the Spectre.

" Number one reason why I don't believe Noran Rad is the most tragic, is because he asked for it. He wanted adventure, and he got it. You want tragic? Look no further than Tim Drake. His story is sadder than those animal abuse commercials. And them is some sadness. "

I would have to Say Spawn i think is one of the most tragic heros and one of my favorite.Something about a man that gives his soul to the devil only to see his beloved wife who now happens to be dating his bestfriend and has a child makes him badass.On top of that he was killed by his own bestfriend.I know there are many other heros but i just really like this one.Also hes been forgot by the public back in In 90s he was famous and after time just went downhill he destroyed Heaven and Hell for his wife and Blew his own head off.Thats some badass stuff right there.

I'm going with Silver Surfer.

Guts, the Black Swordsman

Berserk

Darkhorse

Silver Surfer's home world is long dead, he's the last of his species, he was basically forced to take part in the deaths of billions and once he tried to stop serving Galactus what was left of his life all turned to s**t. Sure he seems emotionally closed off but that's more than likely a defense mechanism to keep himself sane

batman for me he brings pain and misery to others because his parents death. second place is wolverine and 3rd is deadpool never being able to die while everyone else around them dies.

Punisher comes to mind.

I voted for Hulk. I think the idea of being unable to control yourself is perhaps the highest form of tragedy. Silver Surfer had that going for him for awhile too, but he was able to gain back his self-control.

I actually find Roy Harper, pre-Flashpoint, to be rather tragic. His daughter was killed by a villain, and when he took well deserved vengeance on her murderers, his best friend and his mentor turned on him and brought him to justice. Roy continued to kill those involved in his daughters murder, escaped from jail, and because of his depression relapsed and became addicted once again to heroine. He ended up working as a mercenary just to get by. Sad.

@Ferro Vida said:

@cattlebattle: By Aristotle's definition a tragic hero is a character who has started out with a certain degree of nobility (so that they have something to lose), but still has some sort of humanizing flaw that prevents them from being perfect. This character makes some sort of mistake that leads to their own downfall. There are other aspects to this particular idea as well, like their fall is caused solely by their own actions with no outside influence. MacBeth is an excellent example from slightly less contemporary literature.

@Jnr6Lil: That was unexpected.

Month old bump lol.

here's my list of tragic heroes and villians

Batman - watch batman beyond to see how he turned out. no kids,wife, friends alone in his mansion until terry mcginnis shows up.

Deadpool- the immortal sad/crazy mercenary who'sfinds everything funny is his way of dealing with life

wolverine- immortal tortured mutant everyone he knows and cares about dies around him.

tv shows

justified- boyd crowder- clever criminal working tried to find redemption but became a criminal again

breaking bad- tragic villian walter white wants to provide for his family by cooking drugs, but has become consumed by power that he is tearing his family apart.

movie

tragic villian the godfather - michael corleone took over the family business to save the family business couldn't find redemption cause he killed his brother.

@Ferro Vida said:

@cattlebattle: By Aristotle's definition a tragic hero is a character who has started out with a certain degree of nobility (so that they have something to lose), but still has some sort of humanizing flaw that prevents them from being perfect. This character makes some sort of mistake that leads to their own downfall. There are other aspects to this particular idea as well, like their fall is caused solely by their own actions with no outside influence. MacBeth is an excellent example from slightly less contemporary literature.

Wouldn't that make everyone on this list a tragic hero? All superheroes are not obligated to protect anyone, by anything save their own morals. They could stop whenever they like, so any tragedy that befalls them is entirely their own fault. The best person on this list is Spider-Man. Silver Surfer began his journey because of Galactus, which is an outer influence. Same as Wolverine, what happened to him was because of who he was descended from. Bruce became the Hulk because a bomb went off even though he ordered it stopped. The death of Batman's parents was not his fault either. It's only Spidey's origin that is his own fault: He didn't stop the robber that killed his uncle, and started him on the path to becoming a superhero. Because of his arrogance in not doing so, every tragedy in his life (death of Captain and Gwen Stacy, for starters), the horrors of Venom, Carnage, and Toxin, Green Goblin, death of Ben Reilly, death of his unborn child, etc, is all his own fault. None of these things would have happened if not for him, so I'd say, according to Aristotle's definition, Spider-Man is the ideal tragic hero from this list.