Is it Captain American, who is loyal to nothing, except the american dream? Or superman, fighting for truth, justice, and the american way? Perhaps spider-man, the everyman hero, fighting the underdog's fight?
Who most represents the United States of America? Who is the epitome of American?
@BarelyAverage: @JediXMan: but what I'm getting at is that you don't have to necessarily be an american to be a symbol of america. He's shown his longing for his home world, yes, but there's a reason why he stays and fights for america. You can still be american even if you're not a citizen, can't you? Your passport doesn't define who you are. what does it really mean to be an american?
all said and done though, I'm firmly a supporter of captain america. I mean, come on, he has america in his name. 'MERICAAAAAAA
You can be a citizen without being born in the United States. He was a US citizen. He renounced his citizenship because it sent the wrong message - that he was fighting for America and not Earth as a whole.
Captain America is more of the American type,I read a comic where he protected some KKK members,from a bomb because about one of their liberties was being violated.I was like wow that is really wow.
Captain America--however, Captain America doesn't really stand for current America and it's politics, Rogers stands moreso for what our founding father's believed.
I have yet to see Superman vote in an election for a president or pick a favorite NBA, NFL, NHL, MBL, or hell even cheer for the US in the olmypics, or pick a favorite Metallica or Jimi Hendrix album.
I'm sticking with a man who enlisted in US military and took serum and a bullet for his country. and has no problem eating at IHOP while listening to Toby Keith's Red White and Blue.
Donald Trump as Lex Luthor: I want to see Superman's Birth Certificate.
@phliuy: I think (for the question posted here) you have to define what it means to be an "American Hero" What does an American hero mean? I'm guessing: - An American citizen - Proponent of American ideals and values (although values is one that varies quite a bit) such as freedom and equality. - Visually supportive of America?
Captain America seems the obvious answer.
American citizen
Wears the flag as a uniform
Began his career as a soldier in the U.S. Army.
Without a doubt he loves America.
Superman
Not an American citizen
his motto USED to be "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" but that was retconned out long ago.
He himself stated that he did not want to represent or belong to just one country...
I think Superman does believe in and support everything that the U.S. stands for though...
Spider-Man
technically isn't an American citizen. Peter Parker is an American citizen but Spider-man is a costumed super hero whose true identity is unknown.
I can't recall Spider-Man ever really talking about loving his country or believing in the American way. I'm sure he does, but I don't recall reading that. Captain America, on the other hand wears his love for his country every day...
Spider-Man is definitely an every man type of guy as you say, and I believe he's a great representative of the American way...
So, of those three, I'd say Captain America... I can't actually think of another super hero more pro American than Cap. himself...
On a side note, I'm curious what Super Heroes could be said to represent other countries... I know most comic book writers are American so there simply aren't as many super heroes that we think of as being from other countries, even when they are... But is there a Super Hero that is England's greatest hero? Ireland? Scotland? Brazil? Mexico? Israel? China? Japan? and on and on....
@phliuy: I think (for the question posted here) you have to define what it means to be an "American Hero" What does an American hero mean? ountries, even when they are... But is there a Super Hero that is England's greatest hero? Ireland? Scotland? Brazil? Mexico? Israel? China? Japan? and on and on....
Captain Britian dude, also Jack Staff
In the Ultimate Universe every country had their respective "Captain"
@FadeToBlackBolt: It's not who America wants to see itself as, it's who represents the USA, and at this moment in time, it's Civil War Tony.
With all due respect, I definitely have to disagree with you on this one. If anything, I think Tony Stark does not represent America in a good way. The Constitution is the foundation of our government and he KNOWINGLY broke the law and violated the liberties, guaranteed by the constitution, of American citizens...
- He arrested/detained minors for a law that did not apply to them. He LIED to children and FORCED them to join the initiative. One of those children died in training. Another was illegally operated on against her will and had her property illegally taken from her. - He imprisoned the 'accused' not convicted, in a prison in another dimension so that he could do things to them that were against the law in the U.S. I personally would consider locking someone's mind in an artificial reality a form of torture. - He took away the rights of prisoners to have their day in court. He intentionally arranged things so that their appeals would NEVER go to court.. THAT is incredibly un-American... - He spent about ten Billion dollars on a new helicarrier when he didn't need one... He did it because the old one smelled bad... That's fleecing. As long as there are people without food, health-care, or homes, it's just morally bankrupt to waste government money like that.
- Arresting children for a law that does not apply to them... - Keeping American citizen from their due legal process? - Keeping prisoners outside U.S. jurisdiction so that they can be treated in a way that the constitution does not allow. - Spending Ten Billion dollars on an unnecessary expense while American citizens do without health care...
@FadeToBlackBolt: It's not who America wants to see itself as, it's who represents the USA, and at this moment in time, it's Civil War Tony.
With all due respect, I definitely have to disagree with you on this one. If anything, I think Tony Stark does not represent America in a good way. The Constitution is the foundation of our government and he KNOWINGLY broke the law and violated the liberties, guaranteed by the constitution, of American citizens...
- He arrested/detained minors for a law that did not apply to them. He LIED to children and FORCED them to join the initiative. One of those children died in training. Another was illegally operated on against her will and had her property illegally taken from her. - He imprisoned the 'accused' not convicted, in a prison in another dimension so that he could do things to them that were against the law in the U.S. I personally would consider locking someone's mind in an artificial reality a form of torture. - He took away the rights of prisoners to have their day in court. He intentionally arranged things so that their appeals would NEVER go to court.. THAT is incredibly un-American... - He spent about ten Billion dollars on a new helicarrier when he didn't need one... He did it because the old one smelled bad... That's fleecing. As long as there are people without food, health-care, or homes, it's just morally bankrupt to waste government money like that.
You know that everything there was analogous for the Bush Administration, right? The Negative Zone was Guantanamo, the SHRA was the Patriot Act and the gross over expenditure of government funds on unnecessary military forces was a criticism on the Iraq War.
Cap represented the ideal America, while Tony was the modern Post-Terrorist America that the Bush Administration represented. Since we're still in the shadow of that era, but slowly getting better (like Tony during Dark Reign), the USA is Iron Man.
@phliuy: I think (for the question posted here) you have to define what it means to be an "American Hero" What does an American hero mean? ountries, even when they are... But is there a Super Hero that is England's greatest hero? Ireland? Scotland? Brazil? Mexico? Israel? China? Japan? and on and on....
Captain Britian dude, also Jack Staff In the Ultimate Universe every country had their respective "Captain"
Captain Britain and Union Jack were the first two to come to mind for me, but I wonder, would people from Britain agree? I HOPE so, but I just wonder. Sabra for Israel? Sunfire for Japan? Vidicator and Guardian for Canada? (They probably wouldn't appreciate Wolverine quite the same way)
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