- This is an almost impossible question to answer because most of the accepted great leaders are given credit for things assumed and not seen on page
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- For this example I will use the 3 Marvel characters most often quoted as leaders, Captain America, Cyclops, and Storm. (Pre-flame disclaimer, I do not care about any of the 3 more than the other)
- While each have had multiple moments where they were really shown to lead in an exemplary manner, the majority of the time each leads a team into battle and tells everyone to hit somebody.
- Before everyone starts tossing around scanned feats and losing your mind because you think I'm making fun of your fav character, I am aware impressive things exist, but are outnumbered by far by them leading brawls.
- Many writers are content in taking the characters accepted place rather than going out of their way to show it.
No heroes inspire thier fellow superheros better than Captain America and Superman. As a team mate you gotta go with Superman, obviously because of his abilities. But as a pure leader, I'd go with Cap.
"On Olympus we measure speed by Mercury, power by Zeus, and strength by Hercules... but we measure courage by Captain America." - Hercules Respect, yo.
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Posted by GTG12
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@ThanoStomp said:
No heroes inspire thier fellow superheros better than Captain America and Superman. As a team mate you gotta go with Superman, obviously because of his abilities. But as a pure leader, I'd go with Cap. "On Olympus we measure speed by Mercury, power by Zeus, and strength by Hercules... but we measure courage by Captain America." - Hercules Respect, yo.
- This is an almost impossible question to answer because most of the accepted great leaders are given credit for things assumed and not seen on page
Explain
- For this example I will use the 3 Marvel characters most often quoted as leaders, Captain America, Cyclops, and Storm. (Pre-flame disclaimer, I do not care about any of the 3 more than the other)
- While each have had multiple moments where they were really shown to lead in an exemplary manner, the majority of the time each leads a team into battle and tells everyone to hit somebody.
- Before everyone starts tossing around scanned feats and losing your mind because you think I'm making fun of your fav character, I am aware impressive things exist, but are outnumbered by far by them leading brawls.
- Many writers are content in taking the characters accepted place rather than going out of their way to show it.
Telling their team to hit somebody is apart of the job.
- This is an almost impossible question to answer because most of the accepted great leaders are given credit for things assumed and not seen on page
Explain
- For this example I will use the 3 Marvel characters most often quoted as leaders, Captain America, Cyclops, and Storm. (Pre-flame disclaimer, I do not care about any of the 3 more than the other)
- While each have had multiple moments where they were really shown to lead in an exemplary manner, the majority of the time each leads a team into battle and tells everyone to hit somebody.
- Before everyone starts tossing around scanned feats and losing your mind because you think I'm making fun of your fav character, I am aware impressive things exist, but are outnumbered by far by them leading brawls.
- Many writers are content in taking the characters accepted place rather than going out of their way to show it.
Telling their team to hit somebody is apart of the job.
- Yes it is part of their job, but its a function anyone on the team can do, it does not highlight their ability as a leader.
- To be a leader, much less a great one, they need to show on a consistant basis that they can manage a situation, battle, negotiation better than those around them to a significant degree.
- This is not done often enough IMO to really sell me on them being exceptional, and I'm not just going to accept it because they say so.
No heroes inspire thier fellow superheros better than Captain America and Superman. As a team mate you gotta go with Superman, obviously because of his abilities. But as a pure leader, I'd go with Cap. "On Olympus we measure speed by Mercury, power by Zeus, and strength by Hercules... but we measure courage by Captain America." - Hercules Respect, yo.
If a leader needs something is instant respect: This guy, Superman, Iron Man and yes the Cap are people that deserves my respect so soon I'll saw them (If I were part of a super team)
But I go for Bats because he don't just have respect he have the fear factor
Batman for DC, Captain America for Marvel. I don't view supes as much of a leader. As batman said back in Infinite Crisis, the only time he inspired someone was when he was dead.
Hands down, Steve Rogers. I think it was Frank Miller who wrote that he was a man who could command gods? That aside, the fact he has such a tactical mind, a will like you wouldn't believe and an understanding of combat like he does, I think he's best. That's leaving aside the respect and honor folks uphold for the guy, which is why so many listen. Just my opinion though.
the way i see it there are two types of things that need to be considered for a leader to be considered as Great....
1. the leader needs to be tactical, and have a great mind for strategy.
2. the leader needs to be the major supporting link of the team. Morally, and emotionally. he needs to be able to rally and care for his team, and do whats best for the cause at the same time.
This said, Batman excels at Number 1, but lacks expertise in Number 2.
I think Both Captain America and Optimus Prime are the best.
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