Who is stronger, Hercules (Marvel Version) or Superman??

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#1  Edited By Hemlin

This is not a fight but we'll just compare whom out of the two assuming that Herc has the strength to perform this feat:

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#2  Edited By Saren

Holding up the sky is not a quantifiable feat by any definition of the term.

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#3  Edited By Hemlin

@CitizenBane: It's ambiguous, but let's assume that he was really holding up the combined weight of all those stars observable from earth effortlessly.

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@Hemlin said:

@CitizenBane: It's ambiguous, but let's assume that he was really holding up the combined weight of all those stars observable from earth effortlessly.

How about we don't do that, and instead assume it's unquantifiable, which is exactly what it is?

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#5  Edited By Emperorb777

I could put my hand in the air doesn't mean I'm holding up the sky or any weight.

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#6  Edited By Hemlin

@Immortal777: From 1 version of Greek Mythology, the sky itself was falling down on earth and Zeus used Atlas to hold the sky to protect earth for all of eternity. No the Sky is not tangible in real-life but we all know that the laws of physics do not apply in comic book stories.

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#7  Edited By Hemlin

@CitizenBane: Then why are you on here if you're going to avoid the topic anyway

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#8  Edited By Almighty_Darkseid

superman

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#9  Edited By Saren

@Hemlin said:

@CitizenBane: Then why are you on here if you're going to avoid the topic anyway

I'm not avoiding the topic. I'm addressing your approach to the topic.

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#10  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: By assumption he held up the sky too

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#11  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: I've seen your post, DC is your bias so you'll always pick a character from DC over a character from Marvel.

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@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: I've seen your post, DC is your bias so you'll always pick a character from DC over a character from Marvel.

not really, its just that dc is usually more powerful than marvel, everyone knows that

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#13  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: Galactus is in the same league with a lot of gods in DC, so is Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet along with Odin and Surtur

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#14  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: Anyway show me a scan of Superman doing something that is comparable to holding up countless stars, if you want to convince me more.

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@Almighty_Darkseid: Anyway show me a scan of Superman doing something that is comparable to holding up countless stars, if you want to convince me more.

He did not lift up countless stars, ergo there is no need of convincing.

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@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: Galactus is in the same league with a lot of gods in DC, so is Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet along with Odin and Surtur

galactus isnt a god, and hes not in the same league with any of the dc gods, especially not thanos, odin, and surtur, but rune king thor might be

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#17  Edited By Emperorb777

@Hemlin: Can you tell me how much weight exactly Hercules is holding up.

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#18  Edited By Mad8Baller

What's holding up the sky?
Superman dragged the solar system...

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#19  Edited By PowerHerc

Hercules did indeed hold up the sky, including everything in it, but Superman is still stronger.

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#20  Edited By TDK_1997

Superman is stronger.

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#21  Edited By TheSuperHuman

Hercules.

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#22  Edited By Hemlin

@Immortal777: Immeasurable just like the weight of planets that Superman dragged

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#23  Edited By bigcimmerian

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: Galactus is in the same league with a lot of gods in DC, so is Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet along with Odin and Surtur

galactus isnt a god, and hes not in the same league with any of the dc gods, especially not thanos, odin, and surtur, but rune king thor might be

Fully fed Galactus >>> Justice League and Darkseid combined

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#24  Edited By Hemlin

@Mad8Baller: Solar Systems, do you know how many stars are in 1 solar system and how many stars were depicted in Hercules' story.

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#25  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: IMO Galactus can however destroy Superman

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@BigCimmerian said:

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: Galactus is in the same league with a lot of gods in DC, so is Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet along with Odin and Surtur

galactus isnt a god, and hes not in the same league with any of the dc gods, especially not thanos, odin, and surtur, but rune king thor might be

Fully fed Galactus >>> Justice League and Darkseid combined

spectre > fully fed galactus, avengers, etc combined

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#27  Edited By Hemlin

@TDK_1997: Convince me

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#28  Edited By Emperorb777

@Hemlin: So how is it that the ground Herc is standing on supporting that weight.

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#29  Edited By Mad8Baller
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@Mad8Baller: Solar Systems, do you know how many stars are in 1 solar system and how many stars were depicted in Hercules' story.

Yeah but what is the limits of the sky?
I mean he could be just merely holding up the atmosphere that surrounds the Earth for all we know.
And like Immortal said-
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@Hemlin: So how is it that the ground Herc is standing on supporting that weight.

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#30  Edited By Hemlin

@PowerHerc: Hmm I still can't really be sure on this one but I could however be persuaded to change my mind, showing a feat that would exemplify your claim may be sufficient enough make me agree.

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#31  Edited By bigcimmerian

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: Galactus is in the same league with a lot of gods in DC, so is Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet along with Odin and Surtur

galactus isnt a god, and hes not in the same league with any of the dc gods, especially not thanos, odin, and surtur, but rune king thor might be

Fully fed Galactus >>> Justice League and Darkseid combined

spectre > fully fed galactus, avengers, etc combined

Living Tribunal > Spectre, Parallax, Guardians combined

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#32  Edited By Hemlin

@Mad8Baller: Good point, I've wondered how that happened and of course I have no answer for it but since that the physics in comic books do not resemble those of real-life that ain't important, in the mythology Hercules was really holding up a sky and everything in it although it's not of Marvel property this story that I've shown is very likely based on it.

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@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: IMO Galactus can however destroy Superman

yes, he can destroy normal version superman, and probably just about all versions of him, but not superman prime 1 million

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#34  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: I believe that Rune King Thor is strong enough to crush Superman, and Galactus would eat him too.

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#35  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: Superman Prime 1 million has no feats to suggest absolute invulnerability. But even so we can assume that it's true, Galactus however cannot be truly destroyed either. Between them it'll be a never ending battle. But you can't be sure, I'm still leaning against Galactus because he has feats that proves his superiority.

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@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: Superman Prime 1 million has no feats to suggest absolute invulnerability. But even so we can assume that it's true, Galactus however cannot be truly destroyed either. Between them it'll be a never ending battle. But you can't be sure, I'm still leaning against Galactus because he has feats that proves his superiority.

sa superman with sword of superman, cosmic armor superman, superman thoughtbot might as well be able to beat galactus

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#37  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: Maybe just maybe, Galactus has clearly done wayy more destruction than any of them. Galactus at 100% power would destroy them.

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@BigCimmerian said:

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: Galactus is in the same league with a lot of gods in DC, so is Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet along with Odin and Surtur

galactus isnt a god, and hes not in the same league with any of the dc gods, especially not thanos, odin, and surtur, but rune king thor might be

Fully fed Galactus >>> Justice League and Darkseid combined

spectre > fully fed galactus, avengers, etc combined

Living Tribunal > Spectre, Parallax, Guardians combined

no he cant, spectre > lt and lucifer > lt, these are all omnipotent beings right next to the presence, i think zauriel could beat galactus as well

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#39  Edited By TDK_1997

@Hemlin: Superman has better feats than Marvel Hercules.

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#40  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: The sword of Superman was never really used, it's power is unknown, it provides him the knowledge of everything but it never showed that he could use it to manipulate reality or time-travel like RKT. Still Galactus had heaps and heaps of feats that makes him visually stronger than all versions of Superman.

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#41  Edited By Hemlin

@TDK_1997: Yep, now go on

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#42  Edited By TifaLockhart

Seems someone really wants Hercules to win. Grey Hulk was sent flying into an asteroid twice the size of Earth and it didn't even hurt him at all despite the asteroid being shattered in the process. Even better, Superman was KO'd by doing similar to a copy of the moon.

Does that mean we should go by one feat to decide who is stronger overall?

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#43  Edited By Bruce27

Gotta go with Superman

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#44  Edited By bigcimmerian

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@Almighty_Darkseid said:

@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: Galactus is in the same league with a lot of gods in DC, so is Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet along with Odin and Surtur

galactus isnt a god, and hes not in the same league with any of the dc gods, especially not thanos, odin, and surtur, but rune king thor might be

Fully fed Galactus >>> Justice League and Darkseid combined

spectre > fully fed galactus, avengers, etc combined

Living Tribunal > Spectre, Parallax, Guardians combined

no he cant, spectre > lt and lucifer > lt, these are all omnipotent beings right next to the presence, i think zauriel could beat galactus as well

Yes he can, Living Tribunal, Michael Demorgius and Lucifer Morningstar are all so much above Spectre that they shouldn't even be compared to each other

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@Hemlin said:

@Almighty_Darkseid: The sword of Superman was never really used, it's power is unknown, it provides him the knowledge of everything but it never showed that he could use it to manipulate reality or time-travel like RKT. Still Galactus had heaps and heaps of feats that makes him visually stronger than all versions of Superman.

galactus was getting beat on by thanos though

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#46  Edited By Hemlin

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: If we're going to just use one feat from both, it shall be the absolute greatest feat from them both.

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#47  Edited By Hemlin

@Bruce27: Like the others, convince me with evidence.... without evidence then you won't be able to convince me

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#48  Edited By Bruce27

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@Bruce27: Like the others, convince me with evidence.... without evidence then you won't be able to convince me

I'll pull out a scan or two later, I'm about to go get some shut eye.

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#49  Edited By Hemlin

@Bruce27: Take as long as you like

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#50  Edited By Hemlin

@Almighty_Darkseid: Still overall Galactus is still more powerful than Supes. Galactus clearly has more powerful attacks than Supes, by an immense margin.